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Post by philman on Nov 18, 2022 8:24:39 GMT
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Post by rafk on Nov 18, 2022 11:34:39 GMT
I feel like there is now a non zero chance Lana is fated to be sliced in half struggling for the tooth of the eldritch abomination she loves and it would be very sad.
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Post by bicarbonat on Nov 18, 2022 11:47:02 GMT
I feel like there is now a non zero chance Lana is fated to be sliced in half struggling for the tooth of the eldritch abomination she loves and it would be very sad. I have no idea to what degree she'll be able to hold her own – I mean, we know that the New Humans are yoked as hell. I'm not sure about how they stack up against etheric business. But unless Lana deploys Talk no Jutsu, she's definitely bound for tragedy. |
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Post by blahzor on Nov 18, 2022 12:01:36 GMT
whelp Lana is about to steal the tooth
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Post by ohthatone on Nov 18, 2022 12:17:41 GMT
whelp Lana is about to steal the tooth and then Lana somehow ends up fated to kill Loup. And given his over dramatic love sickness, I think Loup would agree that expiring at that hand of his lover would indeed be a fantastic plan. |
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Post by ctso74 on Nov 18, 2022 14:19:09 GMT
Well, this doesn't bode well for Lana.
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Post by maxptc on Nov 18, 2022 14:35:52 GMT
I really think Lana might be sane enough to say somthing like "And you're sure you can't just talk this out with her? Annie really doesn't give off stabby murder vibes, shes probably looking for an out."
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 18, 2022 15:58:29 GMT
I really think Lana might be sane enough to say somthing like "And you're sure you can't just talk this out with her? Annie really doesn't give off stabby murder vibes, shes probably looking for an out." Consider the amount of wisdom she managed to show so far. Then again, if it was a result of reading too much weird stuff, she could notice excess of Wacky Misunderstandings that are entirely avoidable. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Nov 18, 2022 16:18:49 GMT
One interesting thing about this page is that it seems Loup/ Jerrek clearly thinks that Anne literally killing him is the endgame.
Metaphorically "killing" Loup by having him permanently become Jerrek fulltime isn't going to cut it, if you'll pardon the pun. At the very least, he hasn't considered the possibility, or he's not thinking along those lines.
He's still Loup now, in any case, so he's not fully dead yet.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Nov 18, 2022 18:37:17 GMT
I feel like there is now a non zero chance Lana is fated to be sliced in half struggling for the tooth of the eldritch abomination she loves and it would be very sad. That sounds like very star-crossed lovers, romantic "Romeo and Juliet"-type stuff. It just needs Lana to die in Jerrek's arms, and maybe a Darth Vader big nooooooo. Which means it probably won't happen, because it's too meme standard. |
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Post by Runningflame on Nov 18, 2022 18:52:47 GMT
One interesting thing about this page is that it seems Loup/ Jerrek clearly thinks that Anne literally killing him is the endgame. Metaphorically "killing" Loup by having him permanently become Jerrek fulltime isn't going to cut it, if you'll pardon the pun. At the very least, he hasn't considered the possibility, or he's not thinking along those lines. On the other hand, if that is a possibility, I bet Loup would agree that becoming Jerrek fulltime so he can stay with Lana forever is a wonderful plan! |
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Post by rabbit on Nov 18, 2022 18:53:31 GMT
I really think Lana might be sane enough to say somthing like "And you're sure you can't just talk this out with her? Annie really doesn't give off stabby murder vibes, shes probably looking for an out." "Well I would try to talk to her, but I think she'd just cut me off." |
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Post by Gemminie on Nov 18, 2022 20:34:22 GMT
OK, so we're going there. Jerrek's explained a lot to Lana, it would appear, but not this bit about how Annie's supposed to kill him with the tooth/dagger. Well, he explains it now, and Lana is shocked. She doesn't want him to die; they're technically still only on their first date! Jerrek is calling this one more part of Coyote's plan that he has to get back, but he's not mentioning the piece that Renard still has. He shifts into part-Loup form and shows Lana the missing tooth.
So Lana now knows that Annie's out to kill her boyfriend – or at least that's how I think she'll interpret this. Annie doesn't want to kill him, but as Coyote said, he's set things up so Loup will force her hand. But now that Lana knows about this and certainly doesn't understand or want to, what's she going to do? And will it bring about the very thing she's trying to prevent?
By the way, if Renard gives back the possession power, does he stay in the body he's in, or does he go back to his original body, which is dead?
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Post by todd on Nov 18, 2022 23:53:41 GMT
By the way, if Renard gives back the possession power, does he stay in the body he's in, or does he go back to his original body, which is dead? Not just dead, but destroyed, which would pose a really big problem. |
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Post by maxptc on Nov 19, 2022 3:46:58 GMT
I really think Lana might be sane enough to say somthing like "And you're sure you can't just talk this out with her? Annie really doesn't give off stabby murder vibes, shes probably looking for an out." Consider the amount of wisdom she managed to show so far. Then again, if it was a result of reading too much weird stuff, she could notice excess of Wacky Misunderstandings that are entirely avoidable. Sure some of her judgment calls are iffy at best, but thats more reader knowledge, naivety and bad taste then pure lack of wisdom. Lana definitely seems on the ball enough to say something like "Hey, Annie really likes trying to talk things out instead of stabbing. gosh golly, babe maybe when this all goes down, you can try talking with her about not wanting to die before the fight." |
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Post by SilverbackRon on Nov 20, 2022 4:44:36 GMT
One interesting thing about this page is that it seems Loup/ Jerrek clearly thinks that Anne literally killing him is the endgame. Metaphorically "killing" Loup by having him permanently become Jerrek fulltime isn't going to cut it, if you'll pardon the pun. At the very least, he hasn't considered the possibility, or he's not thinking along those lines. He's still Loup now, in any case, so he's not fully dead yet. The more I think about it, the more I like this. It is a very strong theory because it all fits what Coyote predicted. We know Coyote loves to say misleading things, but in the end... he is no liar. (Say it with me "and therein lies the danger") |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 20, 2022 18:21:24 GMT
Man, things in this comic have really gone off the rails, I'm having trouble paying attention to current events.
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Post by Corvo on Nov 20, 2022 23:32:58 GMT
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Post by drmemory on Nov 21, 2022 18:34:33 GMT
Well, this doesn't bode well for Lana. I think you're right, but perhaps not for the reason you intended.
Now that Loup has found love, mutual love no less, what would make him want to die? Finding out that the death of Lana is something that has to happen as part of Coyote's plans, either before or after the fact.
For example, if it turns out that the court is going to pull the energy from all of the NP to power their move, he might be willing to sacrifice himself to save them. At least if it happens while he's still on a pink cloud of shiny new relationship bliss. 
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Post by speedwell on Nov 21, 2022 18:44:17 GMT
Well, this doesn't bode well for Lana. I think you're right, but perhaps not for the reason you intended.
Now that Loup has found love, mutual love no less, what would make him want to die? Finding out that the death of Lana is something that has to happen as part of Coyote's plans, either before or after the fact.
For example, if it turns out that the court is going to pull the energy from all of the NP to power their move, he might be willing to sacrifice himself to save them. At least if it happens while he's still on a pink cloud of shiny new relationship bliss.
I don't disagree with a thing you said. I just think the simplest path to it is a "Goose's wife" gambit on the part of Coyote - to make it crystal clear, Coyote himself in Lana-form. I've been leaning in that direction practically since the day the readership first made Lana's acquaintance. |
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Post by shadow3 on Nov 21, 2022 19:07:02 GMT
To save Lana and anyone else he may care about, Loup may have to sacrifice himself in the future.
Coyote may not have been strong enough on his own but combined with Ysengrin's etheric power, the resulting Loup who inherited love from both his predecessors in addition to the desires of a trickster deity, would be able to get the job done.
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Post by drmemory on Nov 22, 2022 21:58:15 GMT
I think you're right, but perhaps not for the reason you intended.
Now that Loup has found love, mutual love no less, what would make him want to die? Finding out that the death of Lana is something that has to happen as part of Coyote's plans, either before or after the fact.
For example, if it turns out that the court is going to pull the energy from all of the NP to power their move, he might be willing to sacrifice himself to save them. At least if it happens while he's still on a pink cloud of shiny new relationship bliss.
I don't disagree with a thing you said. I just think the simplest path to it is a "Goose's wife" gambit on the part of Coyote - to make it crystal clear, Coyote himself in Lana-form. I've been leaning in that direction practically since the day the readership first made Lana's acquaintance. Possible, but I'm not sure I understand why Coyote would do that. Or when, for that matter.
Coyote claims he's really dead, and all that is left is memory. Pretty lively memory! But it seems like he only manifests when certain trigger events happen. I can't rule out the possibility that there are versions of Coyote running around in other forms, that's certainly within his powers, I just don't see why he'd do that. Hmmm. Also, he doesn't lie, but I suppose I could see there being one Coyote that is dead and another one, shifted or something, that is not. Inconclusive I suppose.
We haven't seen Robot say anything to Lana about not being an NP, and they've certainly interacted, but again, not conclusive because things can happen off-screen.
We've seen that the NP can pick their own forms, and Lana said she studied up on it and picked a cute form, which seems to lend a little weight to her being "real", but who knows? She does act a little more spirited than the other more NP, or at least we have been shown more of it. Are there any other explanations for her being unusual?
In the end, I guess I just don't get how Coyote being Lana would fit into his schemes. Also, they kissed!  |
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Post by warrl on Nov 23, 2022 1:16:01 GMT
{Lana} does act a little more spirited than the other more NP, or at least we have been shown more of it. Are there any other explanations for her being unusual? From her former role as a librarian's assistant, and reading a bunch of the books in her care, she's more confident of her knowledge of how to be human. (Note: whether that confidence is really justified is to be determined.) |
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Post by blahzor on Nov 23, 2022 2:12:58 GMT
{Lana} does act a little more spirited than the other more NP, or at least we have been shown more of it. Are there any other explanations for her being unusual? From her former role as a librarian's assistant, and reading a bunch of the books in her care, she's more confident of her knowledge of how to be human. (Note: whether that confidence is really justified is to be determined.) Lana has the instruction manual to being human we don't know if she can apply it properly fully |
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Post by drmemory on Nov 23, 2022 5:57:59 GMT
From her former role as a librarian's assistant, and reading a bunch of the books in her care, she's more confident of her knowledge of how to be human. (Note: whether that confidence is really justified is to be determined.) Lana has the instruction manual to being human we don't know if she can apply it properly fully "Instruction manual" is an intriguing thought. I sort of picture her reading romance novels or girl's manga or both, based on how she is.
I'm thinking of both the "elf boys" incident and the "love every part of you" stuff. The first one showed her naivete when encountering something outside of what she'd read. Her books didn't prepare her for horny brats. The second shows what she thinks of as romance, I think. I'm a guy though and am probably not getting the nuances here.
Despite that, I'm going to blunder on. Maybe she chose a cute form and an outgoing personality in hopes of being like her heroine(s)? If so, she's probably on cloud nine right now, given that her plan seems to be working out pretty well. Heck, Jerrek really did help her when the elf boys were rude! Overprotective is still protective! I'd even suggest that he was attracted to her as far back as that, based on how he automatically jumped to her defense even though there was nothing in it for him or for his plans, though he didn't really seem to realize it.
Note that I'm not in any way criticizing Lana - if anything she seems to have a lot more of an idea of what she wants than any other NP we've learned about. Except perhaps for Arthur, but he's a special case.
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