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Post by jda on Oct 7, 2022 7:03:44 GMT
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PS: I... I sometimes wonder if Tom is just messing with our heads now, and then... I understand. PS2: If someone did not get it (for being a model newer than me) Tom comments refers to this scene of a classic movie.
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wlerin
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Post by wlerin on Oct 7, 2022 7:08:13 GMT
Always look to love. Always.
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Post by bratello07 on Oct 7, 2022 7:10:50 GMT
He just don't know any romances.
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blackouthart
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Post by blackouthart on Oct 7, 2022 7:15:23 GMT
I’m taking this to mean Loup is now in love with Lana over her last statement?
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Post by Gemini Jim on Oct 7, 2022 7:19:36 GMT
I know this is probably a completely metaphorical image, but it looks like Loup Jerrek exploding from a love heart attack.
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Post by arkadi on Oct 7, 2022 7:25:30 GMT
Well, that was... unexpected.
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Post by speedwell on Oct 7, 2022 7:32:46 GMT
Oh, ffs, in the corresponding myths both Coyote and Isengrim have had wives. As themselves, I mean, not as geese or whatever. Even Reynard had a wife. It seems uncontroversial and even pedestrian to think of any of them having loved and/or been loved before, even if Loup is thought of as a new-ish (recycled?) being.
The only way this makes mythological sense at all is if the transformative power derives from Lana.
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heranje
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Post by heranje on Oct 7, 2022 7:34:35 GMT
Somehow I think no-one will have predicted this page.
Come to think of it, is Lana the first person to say kind things to and accept Loup (not just Jerrek) since he was born? Quoth Annie "your personality is so lacking", Coyote's mockery and threats of death... Not strange that he would catch feelings, really (even if he does so a bit dramatically). Looks like Lana's getting her "the villain loves me" plotline after all.
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Post by philman on Oct 7, 2022 7:35:51 GMT
Oh, ffs, in the corresponding myths both Coyote and Isengrim have had wives. As themselves, I mean, not as geese or whatever. Even Reynard had a wife. It seems uncontroversial and even pedestrian to think of any of them having loved and/or been loved before, even if Loup is thought of as a new-ish (recycled?) being. The only way this makes mythological sense at all is if the transformative power derives from Lana. Having a wife does not mean that you cannot fall head over heels in love with another person, as many affairs and divorces would attest |
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Post by madjack on Oct 7, 2022 7:37:47 GMT
Tom, to the readers:  |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Oct 7, 2022 7:38:46 GMT
I suppose after just finding out the only reason the Court wanted you - a proud and powerful god - is merely because you're a pretty good ether battery, also finding out that their cold calculating robots are more compassionate than you on top of that is probably a distressing revelation. Maybe. Who's to say.
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Post by bicarbonat on Oct 7, 2022 7:46:26 GMT
Say sike right now, Thomas
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Post by artemis on Oct 7, 2022 8:08:33 GMT
Does no one else think Loup just died? I mean, that looks pretty fatal…
I went back and reread the details around how Coyote said he would die, and it’s not like it was a prophesy, he said all that was his PLAN, not that it would for sure happen. Maybe he didn’t account for the robot people’s influence. Kat did make them, and it seems like etheric beings don’t know what to think about Kat.
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Post by justhalf on Oct 7, 2022 8:10:06 GMT
Oh, ffs, in the corresponding myths both Coyote and Isengrim have had wives. As themselves, I mean, not as geese or whatever. Even Reynard had a wife. It seems uncontroversial and even pedestrian to think of any of them having loved and/or been loved before, even if Loup is thought of as a new-ish (recycled?) being. The only way this makes mythological sense at all is if the transformative power derives from Lana. Having a wife does not mean that you cannot fall head over heels in love with another person, as many affairs and divorces would attest I think that's exactly speedwell's point. That today's comic seems to send a message that Loup is unused to love (and so becomes so lovestruck when someone actually loves him and meant it), and speedwell is saying that Coyote and Ysengrin in the actual lore have wives, which means they should be used to love and be loved, and somehow today's comic kinda paints Loup as "I've never felt this kind of love before", not just "I love you". (but I guess this is also your point? that being used to love and be loved shouldn't make this strange? I dunno I still feel today's comic is an exaggerated expression of love/being loved. Don't you?) |
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Post by knowit on Oct 7, 2022 8:11:38 GMT
Loup continues to be my unironic favorite character, an angsty teen through and through
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Post by rafk on Oct 7, 2022 9:02:42 GMT
Tom, to the readers: It's been far too long since a really classic Tom troll on the readers like this. Welcome back, I say. |
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Post by silicondream on Oct 7, 2022 9:04:13 GMT
I know this is probably a completely metaphorical image, but it looks like Loup Jerrek exploding from a love heart attack. Well, the Star Ocean turns you into a semi-metaphorical state, and Loup is semi-close to it and experiencing its effects, so (grabs calculator) that means that he only hemi-semi-demi exploded. He is therefore at least a little bit dead, literally, or possibly metaphorically. I'm still hoping for literally, but...maybe this will turn him into a powerless teen who just has weird thoughts about wolves? That'd be nice too. |
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Post by rafk on Oct 7, 2022 9:05:36 GMT
Oh, ffs, in the corresponding myths both Coyote and Isengrim have had wives. As themselves, I mean, not as geese or whatever. Even Reynard had a wife. It seems uncontroversial and even pedestrian to think of any of them having loved and/or been loved before, even if Loup is thought of as a new-ish (recycled?) being. The only way this makes mythological sense at all is if the transformative power derives from Lana. Loup doesn't have all of Coyote and Ysengrin's memories, you know. I don't know if anyone predicted "the feeling of being loved" as the missing memory but this page might be hinting that that is at least part of it... Alternatively, maybe Coyote really wanted the feeling of love mortal style and knew he could never have it, so sent Loup out into the world predicting this result (upon which Loup has inbuilt death triggers so we get Coyote back, now with the new memory he couldn't get otherwise) Or maybe this page is entirely metaphorical. Or maybe it would have been metaphorical but for the effect of the Star Ocean on an etheric being. We of course will not know for over a week what with end of chapter and all... |
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Post by silicondream on Oct 7, 2022 9:21:19 GMT
Oh, ffs, in the corresponding myths both Coyote and Isengrim have had wives. As themselves, I mean, not as geese or whatever. Even Reynard had a wife. It seems uncontroversial and even pedestrian to think of any of them having loved and/or been loved before, even if Loup is thought of as a new-ish (recycled?) being. But Loup has no myth, right? And his inherited memories from Coyote seem to be imperfect at best; I'm not sure he has access to the more ancient ones. As for Ysengrin, even when Coyote first met him Renard seemed like his only companion. I think it's pretty plausible that in this continuity Ysengrin never experienced love. Edit: Or rafk just said it all better than I did. |
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Post by noone3 on Oct 7, 2022 10:00:40 GMT
I’m taking this to mean Loup is now in love with Lana over her last statement? Or at least his Jerrek part is. Looks like Annie dodged a bullet on this one, huh? |
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Post by crater on Oct 7, 2022 10:19:36 GMT
This chapter was a delight
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Post by arf on Oct 7, 2022 10:22:24 GMT
If calculations are accurate, this would be the end of vol 9.
Thesis on Monday?
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Post by pylgrimm on Oct 7, 2022 11:25:22 GMT
Oh, ffs, in the corresponding myths both Coyote and Isengrim have had wives. As themselves, I mean, not as geese or whatever. Even Reynard had a wife. It seems uncontroversial and even pedestrian to think of any of them having loved and/or been loved before, even if Loup is thought of as a new-ish (recycled?) being. The only way this makes mythological sense at all is if the transformative power derives from Lana. Loup is an entirely new being who happens to have memories of other entities. He's literally a few weeks old. |
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Post by madjack on Oct 7, 2022 11:30:07 GMT
If calculations are accurate, this would be the end of vol 9. Thesis on Monday? The book did start with a very short chapter, so maybe one more? Tom usually mentions on the page if it's a book ending. |
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Post by aogasd on Oct 7, 2022 11:58:26 GMT
Loup continues to be my unironic favorite character, an angsty teen through and through He has big Kylo Ren vibes and I'm here for it. |
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Post by aogasd on Oct 7, 2022 12:01:27 GMT
Me when my bestie *exists*. Honestly Loup, same.
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Post by silicondream on Oct 7, 2022 12:56:16 GMT
I’m taking this to mean Loup is now in love with Lana over her last statement? Or at least his Jerrek part is. Looks like Annie dodged a bullet on this one, huh? You think? His promise to never hurt Annie (by his standards) was founded on his love for her. If Lana is now his One True Love, what happens to that promise? He always said (and showed) that he was fine with attacking his lover's friends. Just have to hope that his pride plus wanting to please Lana make him turn over a new leaf, I suppose. Oh, ffs, in the corresponding myths both Coyote and Isengrim have had wives. As themselves, I mean, not as geese or whatever. Even Reynard had a wife. It seems uncontroversial and even pedestrian to think of any of them having loved and/or been loved before, even if Loup is thought of as a new-ish (recycled?) being. The only way this makes mythological sense at all is if the transformative power derives from Lana. Loup is an entirely new being who happens to have memories of other entities. He's literally a few weeks old. Doesn't alter your main point, but he should be several months old. Attacked the Court for six months without communicating while he was time-splitting Annie. *Edit* and welcome to the board, new folks! |
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Post by cognizanita on Oct 7, 2022 13:43:30 GMT
My first feeling was "REALLY?!?!" in a disappointed kind of way. But the more it sinks in, the more I find myself kinda liking this. Loup has Ysengrin who desperately wanted to be loved (probably?) (and to win). He's been chasing after Antimony for acceptance. Antimony is now too mature to give him the acceptance he "needs." Loup has sometimes felt like a scheming ancient force, but he might make more sense as a child than as a rebellious teenager. Its hard to tell with all the knowledge and abilities he has. Like he understands subtle insults and smirks and does other stuff children don't do. But he's also, despite knowledge of things, hasn't felt things directly before. He hasn't had attention or love or been insulted before. It's all new to him. Yeah. I like this. I like Loup struggling in a new world as a new being. I like that Antimony missed this, and won't love him unconditionally because she has healthy boundaries now. I like that sometimes the manipulative character can fix their ways, especially when they are young, and they suddenly realize what they are doing and that it can be otherwise. Obviously Loup has a long way to grow before he regrets and apologizes, but its nice to see that he has potential and was missing crucial pieces of character and uh... life. That's a heck of a flaw for a god. (Guess I'll find out if any of this is the direction this is going next chapter!) I like that love does this, feels like this, is foolish and overwhelming, and crazy. And grounding and bridging. And kawaii, lolll. It's weird to have a book that is serious, real and complex. But also fairytale and fun and simple. This feels like an awkward but also good mix of that. Oh Loup, what a trainwreck you've been in this book. I look forward to you gaining depth.* Also Lana, you're a mess. Your heart is in the right place, but you are SO NAIVE. What a pair of opposites and symmetries. Yeesh. Glad I am nowhere near them. Man. Love sure is something else. * (FINALLY. hate that guy) |
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Post by mordekai on Oct 7, 2022 14:27:25 GMT
Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Tincan...?
Magical Robot Girl Mahō Shōjo Roboto-chan...?
Puri Puri Electric Lovedoll Lana...?
Anyways, Lana clearly has striken Loup with the Power of Love.
But girl, seriously, I can't condone your idea of love... How can you love somebody you clearly don't know at all? I shudder to think what kind of relationship she would end into if she were a real person...
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 7, 2022 14:44:27 GMT
Oh, ffs, in the corresponding myths both Coyote and Isengrim have had wives. As themselves, I mean, not as geese or whatever. Even Reynard had a wife. It seems uncontroversial and even pedestrian to think of any of them having loved and/or been loved before, even if Loup is thought of as a new-ish (recycled?) being. The only way this makes mythological sense at all is if the transformative power derives from Lana. After pondering for a while, I'm thinking of this as a continuation of "Loup" losing himself in his disguise (even though he's only quasi-disguised right now) and Ysengrin falling into his own trap/scheme. Not that it changes anything with how I expect this all to play out. |
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