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Post by pyradonis on Sept 18, 2022 20:54:33 GMT
Loup seems to be trying really hard to remind himself that he's the bad guy here. Where would be the advantage for S13 in doing this? Their deal was only about staying out of each other's business, and he promised not to tell anyone Jerrek is Loup in disguise. What would he gain by making Loup involuntarily break their deal? If he wanted to tell anyone about Loup's disguise he could have just done so without even speaking to him once. Just tell Annie & Co. this guy here is not a real NP, capture him. While if Loup gets captured now, chances are good Loup will then everyone about S13 making a deal with him. No, it's in S13's best interest if Loup remains undetected. There's no profit to be had. Robot cares for people and knows Loup is up to no good. The deal was a trap to make Loup reveal himself. As an etheric being, his contracts are magically binding so it's likely that breaking it will invoke an automatic penalty in the form of the other part of the contract being void immediately, i.e. revealing Loup's true nature. I think you are mistaking things here. The only contract seen in the comic that magically bound someone to obey was Renard inhabiting an object that was in the possession of someone else, and all contracts the Arbiter was concerned with were about the possession of objects as well. Loup and S13 have nothing more than a normal verbal agreement. If any of them breaks it, there will be no automatic repercussions. Like for example there were none when Renard broke his agreement with Hetty [to help her harm the owner of her body]. |
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Post by silicondream on Sept 19, 2022 1:07:01 GMT
Loup and S13 have nothing more than a normal verbal agreement. If any of them breaks it, there will be no automatic repercussions. Like for example there were none when Renard broke his agreement with Hetty [to help her harm the owner of her body]. Actually, we never saw Renard agree to help Hetty with that. He verbally agreed to collect various items for her, and fulfilled that agreement. He did not verbally agree to collect the arsenic, nor did he agree to hurt Adam or, for that matter, not to hurt Hetty herself. So I'm pretty sure he never broke an agreement or told a lie in that chapter... It's also possible that Loup inherited the "Coyote never (directly) lies or (directly) breaks a promise" trait. Renard and Ysengrin don't seem to have the same limitation, even though Renard's too honorable to enjoy lying and Ysengrin's usually too direct to bother. |
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Post by drmemory on Sept 19, 2022 22:31:37 GMT
There's no profit to be had. Robot cares for people and knows Loup is up to no good. The deal was a trap to make Loup reveal himself. As an etheric being, his contracts are magically binding so it's likely that breaking it will invoke an automatic penalty in the form of the other part of the contract being void immediately, i.e. revealing Loup's true nature. I think you are mistaking things here. The only contract seen in the comic that magically bound someone to obey was Renard inhabiting an object that was in the possession of someone else, and all contracts the Arbiter was concerned with were about the possession of objects as well. Loup and S13 have nothing more than a normal verbal agreement. If any of them breaks it, there will be no automatic repercussions. Like for example there were none when Renard broke his agreement with Hetty [to help her harm the owner of her body]. Definitely agree that there isn't a capital C Contract between Loup and S13. I was just thinking Robot might like to have a nice fig leaf to hide behind, so Loup doesn't take it out on his people if he tells.
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 20, 2022 10:55:35 GMT
Loup and S13 have nothing more than a normal verbal agreement. If any of them breaks it, there will be no automatic repercussions. Like for example there were none when Renard broke his agreement with Hetty [to help her harm the owner of her body]. Actually, we never saw Renard agree to help Hetty with that. He verbally agreed to collect various items for her, and fulfilled that agreement. He did not verbally agree to collect the arsenic, nor did he agree to hurt Adam or, for that matter, not to hurt Hetty herself. So I'm pretty sure he never broke an agreement or told a lie in that chapter... It's also possible that Loup inherited the "Coyote never (directly) lies or (directly) breaks a promise" trait. Renard and Ysengrin don't seem to have the same limitation, even though Renard's too honorable to enjoy lying and Ysengrin's usually too direct to bother. Renard knew very well what the items were being used for, he just didn't know on whom. Though you are correct in that he probably didn't agree to directly harm Adam himself. But really, that's all beside the point. If we really want to get so nitpicky, Renard had definitely agreed to carry the needles, pins, matches and lighter fluid around for Hetty inside his body, and broke this agreement when he changed back to imp form and let it all fall to the ground. |
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