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Post by madjack on Aug 5, 2022 7:05:10 GMT
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Post by philman on Aug 5, 2022 7:09:15 GMT
The one place that hasn't been corrupted by the ether.... SPACE
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Post by drdave on Aug 5, 2022 7:11:18 GMT
The WHAT? I did not see that coming
also, nice to keep Annies fingerprint canon
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Post by caber on Aug 5, 2022 7:18:42 GMT
Wait, those simulations with Dr.Disaster... was he preparing them for this? What did he know??
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Post by madjack on Aug 5, 2022 7:18:59 GMT
The one place that hasn't been corrupted by the ether.... SPACEA scene so hammy, even Tim Curry could not keep a completely straight face. Really interested to find out who's speaking, and what they look like. Would not be surprised to find Kat's robot tech is the new body of choice.
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Post by stef1987 on Aug 5, 2022 7:28:46 GMT
The one place that hasn't been corrupted by the ether.... SPACEWell, not really, Coyote threw all the stars up there, and Annie left a fingerprint on the moon
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Post by meltea on Aug 5, 2022 7:46:20 GMT
What? WHAT?
Related, what would that make them, Seanauts? Working for the Court Naval Space Agency?
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Post by madjack on Aug 5, 2022 7:48:03 GMT
Oh, I bet it works like this: The boat is travelling in the water which is reflecting the stars, so in that sense it is travelling through the stars. They then use the ether to twist that into actually travelling through the stars and arriving at the shores on another world.
The ether not existing on the other end may make it a one-way trip.
Edit: The cruise ship will be making the main trip, probably.
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Post by yellowb on Aug 5, 2022 7:56:17 GMT
Well, I didn't see that coming.
Who is speaking? I had a thought: it might be the boat itself.
Another thought: the proportions in the last panel look weird. The boat looks awfully small compared to the people.
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Post by flowsthead on Aug 5, 2022 7:58:10 GMT
We're told that with people (and all life) dying and going back into the ether the world gets to keep turning. So I wonder if they haven't thought this through. Wouldn't ether begin existing eventually on that planet as life dies? Probably wouldn't matter to them, I guess, since it might take hundreds or thousands of years. But it could be like on Earth where it crosses across time and goes backwards.
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Post by caber on Aug 5, 2022 8:13:31 GMT
We're told that with people (and all life) dying and going back into the ether the world gets to keep turning. So I wonder if they haven't thought this through. Wouldn't ether begin existing eventually on that planet as life dies? Probably wouldn't matter to them, I guess, since it might take hundreds or thousands of years. But it could be like on Earth where it crosses across time and goes backwards. Hmm, maybe they treat it like a hazmat situation? Anytime someone dies, perhaps they fire up the ghost trap and sequester the "contaminants?"
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Post by arf on Aug 5, 2022 8:17:53 GMT
The way to escape the Ether is not to die. I'm getting vibes of Poul Anderson's "Boat of a Million Years" ... or maybe it's just Taweret!?
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Post by flowsthead on Aug 5, 2022 8:20:10 GMT
We're told that with people (and all life) dying and going back into the ether the world gets to keep turning. So I wonder if they haven't thought this through. Wouldn't ether begin existing eventually on that planet as life dies? Probably wouldn't matter to them, I guess, since it might take hundreds or thousands of years. But it could be like on Earth where it crosses across time and goes backwards. Hmm, maybe they treat it like a hazmat situation? Anytime someone dies, perhaps they fire up the ghost trap and sequester the "contaminants?" I was thinking it's more like the mythic qualities of a person's life/memories/emotions that stir up the ether. Like if on the new planet they had a good leader for a period and then hundreds of years later that leader's image has turned legendary or something. Over time the image distorts which is an aspect that grows the ether, and then goes back in time and makes both the real situation of the leader and the legendary situation true at the same time. If they were doing sequestering, maybe they could have found a way to constantly cut themselves off from the past such that ether isn't allowed to grow in that way.
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Post by blahzor on Aug 5, 2022 8:41:29 GMT
i mean everyone called that
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Post by blahzor on Aug 5, 2022 8:43:58 GMT
The one place that hasn't been corrupted by the ether.... SPACEguess they forgot Coyote put those pesky stars in the sky
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 5, 2022 8:45:32 GMT
I had zero recollection of where this was so it took me a good while to find it. Visit the Stars poster (treatise III, end of book 2) The blue string lights might have been a foreshadowing of the moon over the goopy not-ocean but if anyone wants to deny that I'd more than understand.
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Post by rafk on Aug 5, 2022 9:41:19 GMT
Your starter for 2 points in this exam is to compare "She Gave Us An Ocean" with the "ocean" of interstellar travel. - seen on an exam paper for Sidellian Studies, Oxford University 2185.
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Post by rafk on Aug 5, 2022 9:45:02 GMT
Jokes aside, is the "appearance" the speaker's physical appearance or the fact that this speaker has appeared in person at all?
If the former, is the issue that the speaker always looks terrifying or is it a familiar speaker in unfamiliar guise (such as a robot body)?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 5, 2022 10:02:29 GMT
If the speaker is just Bud it's going to be a letdown for me. Let's see some cool aliens. This page opens up a whole slew of questions. I guess the foremost is how long this ocean has been in the Court/Wood system or if it was always part of the... etheric geography? Next for me would be if this ocean is how the humans came to the Court in the first place and if so, does that mean the Seed was planted somewhere near where the ocean and land meet? Also should be noted that the speaker calls it an ocean in the last panel. Your starter for 2 points in this exam is to compare "She Gave Us An Ocean" with the "ocean" of interstellar travel. - seen on an exam paper for Sidellian Studies, Oxford University 2185. "Being only two points, recommended skip. Return to if sufficient time remains." -Study guide metatext, same question, Exam Preparation for Sidellian Studies 605, Oxford University Press.
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Post by noone3 on Aug 5, 2022 10:18:39 GMT
That is starting to give strong Lovecraftian overtones. Traveling through dimensions to different planets inhabited by inhuman inteligence...
Remember when they were making fieldtrips to the moon (VR or not)? This escalated slowly but hard.
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Post by Morpheus on Aug 5, 2022 10:48:44 GMT
...Huh, I'd never really considered it before, but Gunnerkrigg *would* fit quite well into the Fallen London universe. It's not, obviously, but I wonder if this intentionally references it. That'd be sick as hell if that's the case, but either way I'm all for more dreamlike cosmic horror vibes.
...Maybe we'll find out later that Lindsey operates a lil' Bazaar down beneath the court somewhere?
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 5, 2022 10:58:04 GMT
Okay, people, I SO called it this time: Putting my theory on where they plan to go here:
More seriously, mostly the implication derives from the fact that you cannot travel far enough on Earth to simply escape the reach of powerful enough Etheric beings. [...] Then maybe the place they are planning to move to isn't on Earth at all. Remember the previous generation of Court kids already built rockets to transport satellites into orbit. And are those huge habitats where plants are grown inside buildings really only for decontamination purposes, or also to test how to build artificial environments? Further possible hints noticed by mochakimono and lurkerbot: Huh! That's a really intriguing point. Maybe those old chapters with the training sims IN SPAAAAACE were a lot more on-the-nose in their intended purpose than initially assumed? Wrap your low-grav obstacle courses in an air of silly old cinema camp, and kids might miss the part where they're being prepared to jump around in low-grav...
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 5, 2022 11:14:51 GMT
Observation from this and the previous pages: Kat seems to be the only non-adult here. This page and the previous two have gone out of their way to show everyone in her vicinity being obviously taller than her; and everyone whose face was shown was an adult. I wonder what the significance of that is. After all, when encountering her classmates, it was suggested that some of them have gotten invitations as well. So where are the other teens that are supposed to be here?
Observation 2: Some may know that Court has started relocating its people. So... could it be that there have been other meetings of that kind before? If yes, what happened with those who didn't want to go? Or were the people relocated so far all knowing participants in the plan?
Observation 3: Typo in panel 4, it should be "its people".
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Post by todd on Aug 5, 2022 12:42:54 GMT
We're told that with people (and all life) dying and going back into the ether the world gets to keep turning. So I wonder if they haven't thought this through. Wouldn't ether begin existing eventually on that planet as life dies? Probably wouldn't matter to them, I guess, since it might take hundreds or thousands of years. But it could be like on Earth where it crosses across time and goes backwards. Do the Court leaders know that? We know it because beings like Coyote have told Annie (and through her, us), but the Court leaders were not present in those scenes. They could be ignorant about a lot of things concerning the ether that we know.
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Post by Tenjen on Aug 5, 2022 12:55:46 GMT
Honestly wont going to another world cause the same to happen there once it has people on it? Even if they are only choosing the most non-etheric aligned people.
...and if they have some method to STOP that, there would be terrible consequences and inhuman results coming about.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 5, 2022 13:41:24 GMT
The whole retroactive causality thing should make anyplace that humans ever will live and die on etherically active before they get there, unless maybe their presence is so minimal there isn't enough ether to matter. I sorta think that it'd have to be a really barren place. If aliens are really real and have their own subjective POVs then retroactive causality should, all things held equal, apply to them too... though they'd have their own myths and stories of course.
I sorta expect to learn absolutely nothing in the comic about where the Court is going* but if it is indeed ether-free then either they will have to move on before anyone died or anything significant happened, or they're actually just in a pocket-kingdom in the ether. If the 'pomps are capable of finding them there (and bringing their souls and energy to the same ether anyway) I think it means moving was probably moot; other stuff should be able to get to them too.
(still crossing my fingers for cool aliens and not some ocean-going mythic people...)
[edit] *unless they're just going to the moon, which they might well be... which shouldn't count as going to the stars unless you're playing Getting Over It. [/edit]
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Post by arf on Aug 5, 2022 14:22:04 GMT
Is Tom about to reveal the plot for Avatar 2?
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 5, 2022 15:04:04 GMT
At last. Tom's gone full Spelljammer! Strangely, the Court has always given me a Sons Of Ether from WoD vibe.
What does the guest speaker look like? Alchemically crystalline? Classic Greys? Great Race of Yith? It's going to be along weekend.
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Post by mturtle7 on Aug 5, 2022 15:36:25 GMT
AUGH OF COURSE
I knew it had to be some weird sci-fi destination, but I can't believe I went with "microscopic world inside a water droplet" rather than the more classic "habitable planet beyond our star". Although, to be fair, interstellar travel via OCEAN is a pretty damn novel premise. I wonder how it works? Some sort of space warp that only works in the open water? We'll see, I guess.
Also, I'm gonna just go ahead and get behind those who are pointing out the Court doesn't necessarily know about the "retroactive causality" thing. I mean, I guess Jones might have told them, but that's only if they asked her directly. Heck, even if they did hear about it, they could easily dismiss it as highly unscientific, unsupported, speculation from a dubious source (and they wouldn't be entirely wrong to do so). They're probably assuming that ether is just a sort of energy, that can (theoretically) be tracked, transferred, and contained just like anything else. So if they go to a world "uncontaminated" by the...let's say, the "etheric ecosystem" of Earth, they should be able to finally have complete control over their own carefully curated supply of pure Ether, so they can make it stay 100% in line with their enlightened society's perfectly logical rules. After all, it's not like their own methods could have any flaws...it's just been those messy superstitious types that keep mucking things up, and now they can finally be free of all that!
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Post by Gemini Jim on Aug 5, 2022 15:52:47 GMT
"Do not let my appearance alarm you."Also, from the page that I've linked to: "Congratulations to those who figured this out. In my mind I am picturing a dart board with every available space riddled with darts." Alternatively: "What? No, I'm speaking metaphorically. We have a space center at the equator in the middle of the ocean, it's the best location for launches."
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