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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 2, 2022 7:03:05 GMT
Not sure what the point of hiding is if you're just going to come out when someone calls. But I guess we can't let that insult slide.
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Post by madjack on May 2, 2022 7:42:51 GMT
Wildspec: This is an illusion.
There will be an exchange of words, the gang will spring the trap and this Loup will vanish. Cut to their looks of disappointment with Jerrek at the back of the crowd trying really hard not to look insulted that this is all they could come up with.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on May 2, 2022 9:09:41 GMT
Wildspec: This is an illusion. There will be an exchange of words, the gang will spring the trap and this Loup will vanish. Cut to their looks of disappointment with Jerrek at the back of the crowd trying really hard not to look insulted that this is all they could come up with. Obvious bait-and-trap is obvious. But how obvious will it be that the bait-and-trap itself was the bait of the higher level bait-and-trap?
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Post by madjack on May 2, 2022 10:40:22 GMT
Wildspec: This is an illusion. There will be an exchange of words, the gang will spring the trap and this Loup will vanish. Cut to their looks of disappointment with Jerrek at the back of the crowd trying really hard not to look insulted that this is all they could come up with. Obvious bait-and-trap is obvious. But how obvious will it be that the bait-and-trap itself was the bait of the higher level bait-and-trap? Sixteen levels of bait-and-trap later, it turns out they knew all along about his disguise and the real plan was the conversational questions and points raised during all the bait attempts and post-failure discussions. The aim was to keep him occupied while slowly nudging him towards some self realisations that they didn't know he was already in the process of, so it was all for nothing anyway.
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Post by guntherkrieg on May 2, 2022 12:45:13 GMT
Obvious bait-and-trap is obvious. But how obvious will it be that the bait-and-trap itself was the bait of the higher level bait-and-trap? Sixteen levels of bait-and-trap later, it turns out they knew all along about his disguise and the real plan was the conversational questions and points raised during all the bait attempts and post-failure discussions. The aim was to keep him occupied while slowly nudging him towards some self realisations that they didn't know he was already in the process of, so it was all for nothing anyway. This is all just to make Loup rethink writing that heist movie screenplay.
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Post by blahzor on May 2, 2022 13:21:54 GMT
Obvious bait-and-trap is obvious. But how obvious will it be that the bait-and-trap itself was the bait of the higher level bait-and-trap? Sixteen levels of bait-and-trap later, it turns out they knew all along about his disguise and the real plan was the conversational questions and points raised during all the bait attempts and post-failure discussions. The aim was to keep him occupied while slowly nudging him towards some self realisations that they didn't know he was already in the process of, so it was all for nothing anyway. and the real bait and trap was the friends we made along the way *cuts to camera* And that kids is how I met your mother Paz
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Post by atteSmythe on May 2, 2022 14:05:37 GMT
Hm. Loup has eyes…
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Post by ctso74 on May 2, 2022 14:46:04 GMT
I doubt the chapter will end that quickly, but a snare can be a "loop" of wire.(if you want to pronounce it that way) I wonder what kind of negative feelings Loup has about Rey? He is part Coyote, who seemed to have a favorable opinion of Rey, but he's also part Ysengrin.
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Post by Gemini Jim on May 2, 2022 16:02:16 GMT
Wildspec: This is an illusion. There will be an exchange of words, the gang will spring the trap and this Loup will vanish. Cut to their looks of disappointment with Jerrek at the back of the crowd trying really hard not to look insulted that this is all they could come up with. Or a figment of Rey's imagination? One way or another, I'd be surprised if this is the real Loup. I suppose a little time has passed since the Jerrek incident? That Annie playing Elden Ring is canon? Maybe she's still playing while Rey does all the searching....
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Post by bedinsis on May 2, 2022 16:21:23 GMT
The tales of Renard and Ysengrin involved Renard outwitting the latter. I wonder if he is now playing on the part of Loup that is Ysengrin, and his sense of pride. Wildspec: This is an illusion. You seem to like that hypothesis. Without checking the rest of the chapter's discussion threads, has anyone else put forward the idea that this might still all be an illusion?
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Post by rabbit on May 2, 2022 17:35:37 GMT
Am I the only person who heard Ennio Morricone's The Ecstasy of Gold as soon as I saw the final panel? On a (sort of) related topic, I think it is a trap yes, and probably for Loup. Kat already seems to be able to effortlessly manipulate the basic material of the forest better than Ys could, and probably with more finesse than Loup can. Snaring Loup will be a team effort, but I think it might be a moment where we see Kat shine?
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Post by frogspawned on May 2, 2022 17:37:54 GMT
"It's an illusion!" is a good hypothesis. When encountering anything, first disbelieve.
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Post by Gemminie on May 2, 2022 21:12:47 GMT
Renard continues walking through the Forest ruins, and now he's trash talking Loup. I say "Forest ruins," because I don't see any building fragments; this seems to be an area that's still mostly natural, so perhaps this is somewhere within the Forest's boundaries (on the map, I mean), where there weren't any Court buildings to begin with (other than some very old ruins in one place, I suppose). As he moves around, the animals we see are (mostly) getting out of his way or hiding; some seem to be watching him from behind or from cover.
And he uses the "C" word ... implying that Loup is a coward appears to have some effect. There's Loup, standing on a hill. But wait, isn't Loup busy being Jerrek? Well, for one thing, we're not sure how much time has passed between the previous chapter and this one. We saw Renard with Annie at the end of the previous chapter, and Jerrek was in the same frame. So perhaps this is the next day. But if Jerrek is suddenly gone, wouldn't the other New People wonder where he was? Not necessarily, if he said he was going somewhere, but also, Loup is probably capable of being in more than one place at once. What's Loup here to do? This could be an interesting conversation/confrontation.
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Post by drmemory on May 2, 2022 21:39:57 GMT
The last time we saw Renard, he was walking away with Annie, in the dark, after her chat with Jerrek. The stars were out, and it was a full moon. Now, it's a sunny day. So it has to be no sooner than the following morning.
I don't know that this means anything, just trying to keep track of the passage of time. No way to tell if this is the day after that conversation, or many days later. I'm inclined to guess it's the next day or at least not too much later, just because there is a sense of urgency with the court getting ready to move, but maybe not.
This could be the real Loup, dropping his Jerrek disguise. It could be a second Loup, doing the Coyote thing of putting himself in two places at once. It could be a trap set by Loup, a trap set by Kat, or something entirely different. Who knows?
The big question is, is this Renard acting on his own, or no? In a lot of ways, he is the adult in the room, after all! But he has to obey Annie, and is friends with the big guy with the sword, so this could be part of a plan from either one of them or both. On the bright side, whatever we are seeing probably isn't a plan of the Court, as Renard would be unlikely to go along with junk like that.
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Post by pyradonis on May 2, 2022 22:05:32 GMT
"It's an illusion!" is a good hypothesis. When encountering anything, first disbelieve. To be fair, Renard is searching for an individual known among other things for his powers of illusion.
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Post by maxptc on May 2, 2022 23:16:31 GMT
It could be a copy, a projection, an illusion, an enchanted racoon or the main Loup using instant transmission. When dealing with something as powerful as Loup is, the how isn't as relevant as the why. I assume he wants to talk to Rey or really doesn't like being called a coward.
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Post by madjack on May 2, 2022 23:38:09 GMT
You seem to like that hypothesis. I'll be right at least once this way damnit. Narrator: "He was never right."
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Post by balzac on May 3, 2022 4:06:02 GMT
After the last wolf god gets eaten too, will the resulting being call himself The Loupard?
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Post by guntherkrieg on May 3, 2022 10:26:26 GMT
"It's an illusion!" is a good hypothesis. When encountering anything, first disbelieve. "Trust, but verify" -- KGB proverb.
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Post by Corvo on May 4, 2022 3:26:13 GMT
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