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Post by philman on Apr 11, 2022 7:05:25 GMT
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 11, 2022 7:06:37 GMT
Oh, what big [green] eyes you have.
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Post by jda on Apr 11, 2022 7:15:35 GMT
Oh, what big [green] eyes you have. That reminded me... Ah, simple happier days |
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Post by caber on Apr 11, 2022 7:28:11 GMT
Oh, what big [green] eyes you have. That reminded me... Ah, simple happier days What. The. Hell. |
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Post by aline on Apr 11, 2022 7:34:13 GMT
Heh. She almost guessed.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Apr 11, 2022 7:51:42 GMT
A key memory has been unlocked! Let's see if this throws Loup for a loop.
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Post by basser on Apr 11, 2022 8:27:06 GMT
I choose to believe the fire spirit has the absurdly specific power to woo canine gods.
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Post by blahzor on Apr 11, 2022 8:36:39 GMT
If she doesn't know by now she has to be the 2nd dumbest character in the comic history
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Post by stef1987 on Apr 11, 2022 9:08:19 GMT
Annie is a furry confirmed
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Post by csj on Apr 11, 2022 12:53:08 GMT
windows into the soul
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 11, 2022 14:48:09 GMT
Ow. Right in the feels. Damn you, Tom. If she doesn't know by now she has to be the 2nd dumbest character in the comic history Well, it is Annie. She can occasionally be as dense as osmium, despite her name. |
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Post by rabbit on Apr 11, 2022 14:50:10 GMT
Oh, what big [green] eyes you have. That reminded me... Ah, simple happier days , anyone? |
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Post by Corvo on Apr 11, 2022 14:56:16 GMT
Loup, your Ysengrin is showing.
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Post by davidm on Apr 11, 2022 16:14:56 GMT
She may have already guessed for a while. It would be more effective to not openly say Loup and act exactly as she is to bring out Y and reason with Loup without Loup's temper tantrums. And Loup's facial expressions of sadness, etc are more giving it away... a non Loup robot wouldn't be sad but curious and happy. (She did say before that part of her plan with Loup was to try and find Y inside) The whole business isn't that hard to guess, she has dealt with coyote disguises before like the elf boy playing seducer, she knows Loup is hiding in court, and Loup is most interested in her, and now she has a new person who knows and thinks way too much to be a new person. The look on her face would match "Hey I found you Loup and in a form I can actually work with and be friend to. You have good qualities like Y." |
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Post by aline on Apr 11, 2022 16:17:43 GMT
She may have already guessed for a while. It would be more effective to not openly say Loup and act exactly as she is to bring out Y and reason with Loup without Loup's temper tantrums. Possible, but I think she's not there yet. She has a feeling she knows him, but she's trying to rationalize it. Honestly it might be hard even knowing the extent of Coyote's power to picture Loup hiding as a hapless blushing new person. The cognitive dissonance is through the roof. But she'll work it out. |
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Post by blazingstar on Apr 11, 2022 16:42:42 GMT
I haven't been on the forums in awhile, but we can all agree that Annie definitely knows at this point, right? She was throwing hints of it before (I'm calling it: [ here] and [ here]), and I think she can see Loup with her ether-vision but is staying cool about it, to try to figure out what the heck he's doing here - and maybe influence him for good. She's still a Medium at work. |
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Post by bedinsis on Apr 11, 2022 16:47:35 GMT
This page reminds me of the movie Aladdin(1992) where princess Jasmine seems to figure out that her suitor Prince Ali Ababwa is actually the street rat Aladdin in disguise. If she doesn't know by now she has to be the 2nd dumbest character in the comic history You say that, but you have the benefit of having seen Jerrek's true nature prominently displayed, and having shared his inner thoughts. Who's the supposed dumbest character? |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Apr 11, 2022 16:55:59 GMT
For the life of me, I can't figure out how that other shoe keeps hanging in the air like that.
Unless it's a deliberate ruse at this point. It's like trying to sneak up on a fly before it senses that you're planning to whack it.
Because if he knows that she knows, it's all over.
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Post by lamissquichante on Apr 11, 2022 18:22:31 GMT
If she doesn't know by now she has to be the 2nd dumbest character in the comic history ... interesting... well, I disagree with her being dumb, but I'm curious: Who is the dumbest character in this comic's history, in your opinion? (I assume you mean just this comic, and not comic history in general) |
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Post by maxptc on Apr 11, 2022 18:57:24 GMT
Ive gone back and forth on if Annie knows, but I'm now pretty convinced it is only reader knowledge that makes Loups disguise seem obvious and that Annie still has no idea. Having green eyes, knowing about the Ether, and thinking that knowing everything would be boring isn't what I'd call a smoking gun. Honestly, the more I think about it, if she does know it's Loup it'll seem like main cast mind reading more then a reasonable deduction.
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 11, 2022 21:23:17 GMT
I think she can see Loup with her ether-vision If she could, why can't Renard then? |
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Post by blazingstar on Apr 11, 2022 21:40:04 GMT
I think she can see Loup with her ether-vision If she could, why can't Renard then? You got me there. I think she still knows, Jerrek is Loup, though, or at least heavily suspects. |
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Post by mochakimono on Apr 11, 2022 21:44:10 GMT
It would be kinda funny if Annie, knowing that Loup is hiding somewhere and that he has access to shapeshifting powers, ended up overshooting the mark and accusing the wrong person of being him in disguise. It would be a classic Annie-style "right steps, wrong conclusion" whoopsie.
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Post by maxptc on Apr 11, 2022 23:21:42 GMT
It would be kinda funny if Annie, knowing that Loup is hiding somewhere and that he has access to shapeshifting powers, ended up overshooting the mark and accusing the wrong person of being him in disguise. It would be a classic Annie-style "right steps, wrong conclusion" whoopsie. I'm going to riot if the bonus page isn't Annie randomly accusing people of being Loup. |
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Post by Runningflame on Apr 12, 2022 1:24:47 GMT
What do you know, I had this exact thought--"What if she tells him he reminds her of Ysengrin"--while walking home today. If only I'd thought of it 24 hours earlier, I could've had so many cookies.
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Post by mturtle7 on Apr 12, 2022 4:59:32 GMT
If she could, why can't Renard then? You got me there. I think she still knows, Jerrek is Loup, though, or at least heavily suspects. You know, I was firmly against the idea that Annie can see Loup's true form by looking through the Ether when it first got suggested on this forum...BUT (I can't believe I'm saying this) there IS a way it could be plausible. A few books ago, shortly after re-learning how to use magic sans blinker stone, Annie discovered that she could see things in the Ether that others couldn't. Specifically, she could see the passive effects of things and people on the Ether, like Smitty's probability-manipulating "strings". And Loup might have Coyote's skill of disguise, but since I don't think Coyote ever learned that Annie could use that particular trick, he might not have accounted for it! Could Annie have picked up on Loup's...'divine aura', I guess? The passive effects on the ether he just naturally has 'on' all the time, as a god?
I mean, heck, we don't even have to stop there. Since we never actually learned precisely how or why Annie developed this peculiar trick, it's entirely possible it's not all the way done developing, and she could actually learn to see even more invisible parts of the etheric world! So even if Loup doesn't have any passive effects, there might be other, weirder, ways for her to recognize him...but that's just opening up a real Pandora's Box of speculation. I'm not sure even *I* want to go there.
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Apr 12, 2022 11:11:28 GMT
Oh, what big [green] eyes you have. That reminded me... Ah, simple happier days Oh man that brings back memories. Me and my friends at RIT, in our third year, jealously watching the Ringling School animation projects. We hated them but we also loved their work. Except the videos would've been hosted on a dedicated site back then using Realplayer or something, watched in little thumbnail windows that couldn't be expanded. I think the only RIT animation project that ever got shown off on the internet like that was the cat-toast one that won some animation festival, made by two students a year above us (which also attracted some controversy iirc because they didn't originally credit the writer) Oh and I suppose the infinite staircase video, but that was long after my time. |
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Post by Gemminie on Apr 12, 2022 18:24:17 GMT
(As always, posting this before I read others' responses, for "Ha ha Gemm missed something obvious" goodness)
OK at the end of the previous page, Annie was looking at Jerrek in astonishment, perhaps finding his reactions odd for a New Person. On this page, we focus in completely on one of her eyes, and we can see very clearly their blue-gray color, and how closely that hair clip matches them. She tells Jerrek that he reminds her of someone. But is the extreme eye close-up an indication that she's looking at him in the Ether? What does she suspect?
Jerrek/Loup is worried. Does he really worry that Annie's sussed him out? Or is he just playing it cool? But his blushing nervousness is completely in character for the character he's created. Annie says it must be Jerrek's green eyes, and we see three Ysengrin memories, good times with him and Annie, which Loup of course has access to. Inwardly, Loup is thinking (in bubbles) how he misses those times.
This is interesting. Loup doesn't miss those times, as he wasn't there; he didn't exist. Ysengrin misses those times. Yes, Loup is part Ysengrin. But he may be calling upon the Ysengrin part of himself as he plays the role of Jerrek here. Then I think about how the Coyote part of him must feel about the Ysengrin part of him (Coyote was always so harsh on Ysengrin), and how that makes the Ysengrin part of him feel (his own worst critic is now right there inside his own head).
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Post by rylfrazier on Apr 12, 2022 22:18:53 GMT
I find this charming and while Reynard did try to kill her, maybe more than once and was subject to out of control rage, I think it's pretty rationale for Annie with all her extraordinary powers and understanding that Reynard wasn't a normal creature either would feel like he genuinely cared for him even if his behavior would be pretty unacceptable if they were both just regular humans in a non-magical world.
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Post by blazingstar on Apr 13, 2022 20:42:53 GMT
I think she still knows, Jerrek is Loup, though, or at least heavily suspects. You know, I was firmly against the idea that Annie can see Loup's true form by looking through the Ether when it first got suggested on this forum...BUT (I can't believe I'm saying this) there IS a way it could be plausible. A few books ago, shortly after re-learning how to use magic sans blinker stone, Annie discovered that she could see things in the Ether that others couldn't. Specifically, she could see the passive effects of things and people on the Ether, like Smitty's probability-manipulating "strings". And Loup might have Coyote's skill of disguise, but since I don't think Coyote ever learned that Annie could use that particular trick, he might not have accounted for it! Could Annie have picked up on Loup's...'divine aura', I guess? The passive effects on the ether he just naturally has 'on' all the time, as a god? I mean, heck, we don't even have to stop there. Since we never actually learned precisely how or why Annie developed this peculiar trick, it's entirely possible it's not all the way done developing, and she could actually learn to see even more invisible parts of the etheric world! So even if Loup doesn't have any passive effects, there might be other, weirder, ways for her to recognize him...but that's just opening up a real Pandora's Box of speculation. I'm not sure even *I* want to go there.
Loved this analysis. Thank you for this important reminder that even we, the readers, aren't entirely sure of how much Annie can actually see, or the limit to her "perception" and other abilities. Lots of characters have ether-vision, but YMMV (their Mileage May Vary). |
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