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Post by TBeholder on Apr 8, 2022 17:14:12 GMT
Boring!So is that a look of admiration, or a look of "Ah Loup, there you are"? Indeed. She hates his guts so... Either she knows and is impressed he's come this far, but I don't see it. Or... Late Edit: I am just so confused about where this is all going. Annie is kind of moody and open to new impressions. If he sees that's Loop, but he stopped roaring and demonstrated capacity for philosophy?.. She either figured it out or we're heading for the biggest Lois Lane moment of all time. As in, Antimony would get cool, but very temporary powers?  |
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Post by Corvo on Apr 8, 2022 17:57:50 GMT
Jerrek, your Loup is showing.
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Post by Per on Apr 8, 2022 20:37:57 GMT
The funniest thing about that cover which they don't call out (though they might have had similar covers before that) is that if Lois hadn't happened to have powers again, which clearly surprises Superman, he would have let her be killed. |
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Post by mochakimono on Apr 8, 2022 21:09:25 GMT
I may have discomfort about the Jerrek/Loup crush on Annie, but it's not a dig against the story, and I trust Tom to handle the situation tactfully. It wouldn't be the first time someone had a crush on someone with whom they had no hope of an appropriate relationship with (eg Kat's old crush on Eglamore), and human characters seem generally cognizant of healthy boundaries and more-or-less stick to them in this setting.
If Jerrek makes some untoward motion in this scene, I'm sure Lana would burst his bubble to call him out on the hypocrisy since that's the sort of thing he was yelling at the elves about just earlier.
Either way, I'm sure we won't see any Mayfly-December romance-by-deception happening, so I still feel safe.
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Post by maxptc on Apr 8, 2022 23:38:02 GMT
I dunno, Loup tricking Annie into a date before revealing himself does have an upside. Annie would probably have a much easier time talking herself into stabbing him.
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Post by Runningflame on Apr 8, 2022 23:39:51 GMT
WELL WELL WELL Look who was the secret crush...  This is honestly the best evidence that Annie doesn't feel that way toward Jerrek. |
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Post by somebunny on Apr 9, 2022 3:38:15 GMT
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 9, 2022 4:09:31 GMT
She either figured it out or we're heading for the biggest Lois Lane moment of all time. I'm not so familiar with Superman... what exactly is a "Lois Lane moment"? A girl/woman finally seeing that "the man of her dreams" was right in front of her the whole time? I guess it would be better described as a series of moments where the notoriously sharp Lois Lane, confronted by strong evidence that her co-worker Clark Kent was probably Superman wearing a suit and glasses, failed over and over (ad infinitum, ad nausium) to connect the dots. Exactly why this happened is open to debate (except that it was necessary for the plot of the comic) but I think the best answer is that she couldn't conceive that someone with Superman's abilities could possibly spend so much time pretending to be Clark; being a competitive and psychologically disagreeable (though good) person she could not reconcile Clark being Superman with her understanding of how people interact and how the world works. These moments were sometimes played up for comedy, other times for drama, and I'm sure there's a corresponding trope but am too lazy to look it up. |
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Post by blahzor on Apr 9, 2022 10:19:12 GMT
WELL WELL WELL Look who was the secret crush... When we find out in 6 years the name was Cookie |
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 9, 2022 12:47:29 GMT
I see it as he thought he knew all there was to know about this trait of Coyote, but only now does he realize the full picture.
...the only one she was definitely shown to have a romantic interest in was Kamlen. Not Jack? "Jack? ... No, there is very little music in the name Jack, if any at all, indeed. It does not thrill. It produces absolutely no vibrations ... I have known several Jacks, and they all, without exception, were more than usually plain. Besides, Jack is a notorious domesticity for John! And I pity any woman who is married to a man called John. She would probably never be allowed to know the entrancing pleasure of a single moment's solitude." (Gwendolyn Fairfax in Oscar Wilde's "The Importance of Being Earnest")
Jokes aside, it's an ambiguous situation. I should have written "obviously shown to have". I'm not sure about Jack and I do believe most readers aren't, though he's a reasonable candidate.
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Post by fia on Apr 9, 2022 16:37:47 GMT
I'm definitely getting "Annie knows this is Loup" vibes, especially on this page. He thinks he's tricking her, but she's not new to this trickster-god routine, and she's a damn good medium/spy/double-agent. She's good at getting inside Coyote's head, and at getting inside Ysengrin's head, why wouldn't she know how to handle Loup-as-Jerrek? Particularly when she knows Loup as well as Loup-as-Jerrek has a massive crush on her? People are easy to dupe when they're distracted by their own emotions.
But what I really want to know –– did he say all that stuff in the first few panels out loud? If he did, he gave himself up like an idiot, either way. But I can't quite tell if this is internal monologue switching to him asking Annie a question out loud, or if he was talking to himself without realizing it within earshot.
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Post by shadow3 on Apr 9, 2022 20:43:45 GMT
Annie's training with sensing and manipulating the Ether might let her sense Loup inside the body of Jarrek,
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Post by homomculus on Apr 10, 2022 0:10:40 GMT
I see it as he thought he knew all there was to know about this trait of Coyote, but only now does he realize the full picture.
Yeah, there's a vast gulf between knowing in the abstract "Coyote knowing everything would be boring" (especially if this knowledge came from Ysengrin having memories of Coyote saying it would be boring), and reasoning through why it would be so boring from the perspective of someone who could know everything. |
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Post by rafk on Apr 10, 2022 2:35:05 GMT
I'm predicting this is the moment before Annie drops the shoe on Loup that she knows who he is and any flirtatious looks is just Loup misreading.
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Post by flowsthead on Apr 10, 2022 7:32:37 GMT
WELL WELL WELL Look who was the secret crush... When we find out in 6 years the name was Cookie My money has always been on Jones based on this page, though of course it could be anyone. It wouldn't be strange for it to also be someone that we haven't spent much time with, or at all, some background character that is easily forgettable. Annie's potential romance has never been a focus of the series, only Kat's has been. Until the quoted page on the secret crush for some (and Kamlen for others) a lot of people would argue that Annie is aroace, that's how little focus it has been, especially when compared with Kat. |
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Post by ffkonoko on Apr 10, 2022 10:35:21 GMT
This is not reciprocal. But the crack in Loups thinking is useful. Him having this reaction and being thrown off is the weakspot, its how they can manage to deal with a godlike being using a shank. Tom: hey, it's been too long since Annie pined for somebody abusive (but who had really good reasons for it!), lemme fix that real quick. She's just smiling at him, for Coyote's sake. I don't know where you are getting "pining for him" from. Or for any other abusive character by the way, because the only one she was definitely shown to have a romantic interest in was Kamlen. Sounds like they're complaining about Tony. Which also explains why they jumped from smile to pining. Which in turn nicely leads into also being thankful to the person who brought up blocking people, I didn't know about that. |
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Post by stevecharb on Apr 10, 2022 18:21:57 GMT
That looks says to me,
"You're cute like this."
Not romance, not thirst, but "adoration" seems to be the exact right word.
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Post by stevecharb on Apr 10, 2022 18:54:33 GMT
She either figured it out or we're heading for the biggest Lois Lane moment of all time. I'm not so familiar with Superman... what exactly is a "Lois Lane moment"? Best explained by this 1996 SNL monologue featuring "Lois & Clark" actress Teri Hatcher. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWad5wDgkTg |
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Post by blahzor on Apr 11, 2022 1:37:14 GMT
That looks says to me, "You're cute like this." Not romance, not thirst, but "adoration" seems to be the exact right word. Annie out here deisexual'ing? |
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Post by stevecharb on Apr 11, 2022 3:26:37 GMT
That looks says to me, "You're cute like this." Not romance, not thirst, but "adoration" seems to be the exact right word. Annie out here deisexual'ing? Oh, I was confused for a moment because I thought you meant "demisexualing"
Theophilia, maybe?
Personally I had been hoping for Annie to be asexual until that dalliance with forest boy ended that hope. |
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Post by blahzor on Apr 11, 2022 4:19:37 GMT
Annie out here deisexual'ing? Oh, I was confused for a moment because I thought you meant "demisexualing"
Theophilia, maybe?
Personally I had been hoping for Annie to be asexual until that dalliance with forest boy ended that hope. Terrible phone keyboard and me not double checking Demisexual'ing* |
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 11, 2022 11:45:14 GMT
Annie out here deisexual'ing? Oh, I was confused for a moment because I thought you meant "demisexualing"
Theophilia, maybe?
Personally I had been hoping for Annie to be asexual until that dalliance with forest boy ended that hope. To be fair, that only confirmed she is not aro, she could still be ace. |
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Post by todd on Apr 11, 2022 12:29:10 GMT
Personally I had been hoping for Annie to be asexual until that dalliance with forest boy ended that hope. I felt the same way. |
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 16, 2022 21:46:18 GMT
The funniest thing about that cover which they don't call out (though they might have had similar covers before that) is that if Lois hadn't happened to have powers again, which clearly surprises Superman, he would have let her be killed. It looks like something like this happens every single time anyone becomes invulnerable, and Superdickery already has too many running gags. The only scene of this sort that somewhat stands out was when someone expressed surprise at some baby they see the first time being invulnerable to a cutting laser. |
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Post by drmemory on Apr 23, 2022 1:33:25 GMT
Loup is learning a lot. Remember whileback when Renard said something like "The mind is the plaything of the body"? I think that's a lot of what we are seeing here. Loup has submerged himself in the form of a NP teenage boy, and is only using his (and Coyote's) powers as needed to support his masquerade. So for the first time, he's starting to see things from another point of view. All along, it seems to me that he's been arrogantly saying he could do this and that if he chose to, from controlling the forest to using Coyote's knowledge, while mainly just doing whatever seemed like a good idea at the time. No planning and really no control. Now he's making a concerted effort to do otherwise. Cool. If he keeps this up, perhaps he will turn out to be relationship material after all.
Teenage boy Loup is FAR more mature than wolf god Loup. Also much nicer.
Consider this - he's been talking to Annie, trying to understand how she's feeling, and actually trying to help her! That's a long way from (symbolically) trying to hit her over the head with a club and drag her back to his cave. Forest, whatever. He didn't even wolfsplain anything.
I hope he can internalize what he's learning, and keep it when he goes back to Dog/God mode.
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