[2599] "Has there been any news on L-Loup?"

[imaginaryfriend]

No, not y-yet.

[justhalf]

We pick the same sentence as the thread title! Hahah.

To copy over my (now-deleted) comment on this:

What do you think if someone is talking about you to you without knowing it's you?

[imaginaryfriend]

Personally, I think it's fascinating to hear/read people discuss me without knowing I'm listening/reading. It doesn't happen that often but it's always illuminating. [edit] Although on further reflection, it did take a while to learn how to digest what was read/heard properly and to react properly if at all; I doubt "Loup" is up to that yet. [/edit]

I wonder why Antimony said "us all" when she should know she's not on the destroy list. Maybe she's including herself as a way of distancing herself from the problem or of standing shoulder to shoulder with her friends.

[Fishy]

That expression looks a lot like “Excuse you, are you implying I- uh, Loup can’t stay calm on his own?”

[csj]

Sadly there's something stronger than his self-restraint

His self-loathing

[mochakimono]

I feel that the different lighting style here is to make Jerrek appear slightly unsettling. Or at least, it's doing that for me. His face is cast in shadows, but his eyes still glow that almost unnatural shade of green, which is still rendered even when he's small in the background. Compare to Annie, whose eyes are shadowed as normal like the rest of her face, and are rendered in simplistic black when she's smaller on screen, like always.

Also, if he gets heated about the Ysengrin comment, he could just easily wave it away as the usual Court's impression of Ysengrin being a hot-tempered creature. Annie was certainly one of the few entities to know another side of him, so that wouldn't be a hard lie to sell to keep up the Jerrek disguise. ("Ysengrin?! He's not keeping Loup calm at all!" "How would you know?" "Er, well, everyone knows what he's like!")

[blahzor]

Annie: update on Loup, he bout to get gutted mate, then gunnerkrigg court went limbs

[stef1987]

I still think Annie knows it's Loup

[ctso74]

Like a wolf on the wall.

[maxptc]

I think we are over estimating Annie's ability to see through/get one up on Coyetes powers, and seriously underestimating Loups ability to utilize them. I don't think Loup is getting found out anytime soon/against his will.

[ohthatone]

Mar 18, 2022 16:08:29 GMT maxptc said:

I think we are over estimating Annie's ability to see through/get one up on Coyetes powers, and seriously underestimating Loups ability to utilize them. I don't think Loup is getting found out anytime soon/against his will.

I think annie will eventually know before we know she knows.

[crater]

Annie is so pretty in these pages :3

[pyradonis]

Fascinating she's hoping for Ysengrin of them all to keep Loup calm.

Mar 18, 2022 7:10:34 GMT imaginaryfriend said:

I wonder why Antimony said "us all" when she should know she's not on the destroy list. Maybe she's including herself as a way of distancing herself from the problem or of standing shoulder to shoulder with her friends.

She might not be on the list, but she has already seen firsthand how he does not care about hurting or even killing her when lashing out.

[zbeeblebrox]

Looks like normal robot boy is about to give some suspiciously specific opinions about Ysengrin

[Isildur]

Funny that she should think of Ysengrin keeping him calm. Failure to restrain himself from lashing out in fury was something of a recurring problem of Ysengrin's too, of course.

(The first time, I'm not sure Ysengrin was in on the "ruse". Yes, he dropped the seeds while attacking, but those could have been shed by his lignum-biote without his awareness.)

That said, this is in line with Annie's insistence on seeing the best in Ysengrin, and more widely (whether in regard to Ysengrin, Coyote, Renard, or Anthony) with how she's been written as tending to forgive harmful or dangerous against acts against her more than many would.

[Runningflame]

To be fair, "calm" is definitely not a word you'd use to describe Coyote, the Great Giggling Lord of Chaos. Ysengrin may have a temper problem, but he knows that and he's been working on it.

[stef1987]

Mar 18, 2022 16:08:29 GMT maxptc said:

I think we are over estimating Annie's ability to see through/get one up on Coyetes powers, and seriously underestimating Loups ability to utilize them. I don't think Loup is getting found out anytime soon/against his will.

The Kat thing was pretty obvious though, I doubt Annie didn't notice that

[maxptc]

Mar 19, 2022 10:12:48 GMT stef1987 said:

Mar 18, 2022 16:08:29 GMT maxptc said:

I think we are over estimating Annie's ability to see through/get one up on Coyetes powers, and seriously underestimating Loups ability to utilize them. I don't think Loup is getting found out anytime soon/against his will.

The Kat thing was pretty obvious though, I doubt Annie didn't notice that

Maybe, but honestly I doubt it means she suddenly knows somthing is up. I don't think the name Kat is taboo and that new people exclusively call her Angel. They all think of her as an Angel of course, but they also know her name and what she prefers to be called. I doubt that was the only instance of her being referred to as Kat by new people.

[drmemory]

I can't think of a better cue for Loup to finally talk to his inner Ysengrin.

[blahzor]

Mar 18, 2022 21:32:44 GMT Isildur said:

Funny that she should think of Ysengrin keeping him calm. Failure to restrain himself from lashing out in fury was something of a recurring problem of Ysengrin's too, of course.

(The first time, I'm not sure Ysengrin was in on the "ruse". Yes, he dropped the seeds while attacking, but those could have been shed by his lignum-biote without his awareness.)

That said, this is in line with Annie's insistence on seeing the best in Ysengrin, and more widely (whether in regard to Ysengrin, Coyote, Renard, or Anthony) with how she's been written as tending to forgive harmful or dangerous against acts against her more than many would.

That was coyote's doing as Y's don't even remember lashing out every time

[maxptc]

If Ysengrin was always lashing out, like literally always, he would be a bad example of remaining calm. That he had such anger inside him, but was usually very collected and controlled is why he was a good example of remaining calm.

[Isildur]

Mar 20, 2022 6:44:05 GMT blahzor said:

Mar 18, 2022 21:32:44 GMT Isildur said:

Funny that she should think of Ysengrin keeping him calm. Failure to restrain himself from lashing out in fury was something of a recurring problem of Ysengrin's too, of course.

(The first time, I'm not sure Ysengrin was in on the "ruse". Yes, he dropped the seeds while attacking, but those could have been shed by his lignum-biote without his awareness.)

That said, this is in line with Annie's insistence on seeing the best in Ysengrin, and more widely (whether in regard to Ysengrin, Coyote, Renard, or Anthony) with how she's been written as tending to forgive harmful or dangerous against acts against her more than many would.

That was coyote's doing as Y's don't even remember lashing out every time

Coyote stole the memory of the latter of the two attacks (as well as the recollections of various times he answered Coyote's question about what he would do with Coyote's power, and possibly some other incidents). Ysengrin did, however, have his own inherent rage that even he was aware that he managed "poorly at times". I don't think his rage can simply be attributed to Coyote's manipulation.

[drmemory]

Don't forget, the Ysengrin we've seen the most had been pretty much spun up into a lather by Coyote over a long period of time. On purpose. He stole his memories again and again, and mocked him mercilessly, to name two recurring things.

We did see a softer size of Ysengrin now and then, mostly when he was hanging out with Annie, talking to her one on one. So at least part of this may be that Annie is thinking of THAT Ysengrin. And who knows, maybe that's the real Ysengrin? He certainly seemed calm and regretful when Annie talked to him post-Loup.