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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 7, 2022 8:03:31 GMT
It's the bismuth symbol, which represents the Court. Sounds like a hint about the Seed Bismuth.
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Post by shadow3 on Mar 7, 2022 8:09:04 GMT
Kat takes yet another step towards apotheosis into a techno-etheric goddess.
Zimmy may have seen only a mere glimpse of what Kat is to become.
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Post by basser on Mar 7, 2022 8:09:56 GMT
Kat casually learns earthbending off-screen, no one is fazed.
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Post by madjack on Mar 7, 2022 8:11:48 GMT
Going back to the aftermath of Loup's Forest tantrum tsunami, it is shown what could be melding with the Court buildings in panel 3 here, panel 1 here, and most of all the final panel for that chapter here. The tiniest detail that I think everyone missed. Again.
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Post by csj on Mar 7, 2022 8:15:02 GMT
it grew
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Post by aline on Mar 7, 2022 8:27:58 GMT
So the Court is made from the Forest. And now Kat can manipulate it, gaining a new godhood skill that should be useful in rebuilding the old Court. Although they probably won't rebuild it as it was. Some trees would be nice.
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Post by madjack on Mar 7, 2022 8:37:56 GMT
Some trees would be nice. That got me thinking what Bob and Marcia would think of this but.. Is this why they go to all that effort with the isolation chambers to sever any Forest plants' connections? How much of this does the Court in general actually know? Edit: But would explain why the Court groundskeepers are important enough to meet with Coyote.
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Post by Alkazar on Mar 7, 2022 8:50:20 GMT
That reminds me of Kat's Tick Tock and how it rooted itself after being destroyed in the past. Growing things was a thing of Kat the whole time.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 7, 2022 8:50:59 GMT
Here's a link to that page where Kat wonders about the Seed Bismuth. How much of this does the Court in general actually know? The knowledge of how to restructure things in the Court isn't something that they'd want to spread freely and they've been discouraging (maybe suppressing) etheric tech in general so the actual process by which the Seed was made was probably lost within a few generations of the founding, maybe faster if those who made it never passed the technique on at all. However, maybe they have a lesser technology-only version they can use to synthesize simple things they want/need like food and clothes, and we've been misleading ourselves by thinking that they got lots of goods imported.
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Post by Tenjen on Mar 7, 2022 9:06:55 GMT
It grew from Seed Bismuth!
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Post by liminal on Mar 7, 2022 9:12:10 GMT
So Kat’s saying The Forest Released, Uncovering the Knowledge of Everything
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Post by blahzor on Mar 7, 2022 9:15:52 GMT
Where is Paz!
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Post by blahzor on Mar 7, 2022 9:20:17 GMT
Also this seems to be terrible knowledge to have Loup know
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 7, 2022 9:45:36 GMT
Hehe... if everything is constructed from this material that can be manipulated in such a way, then that means all the constructions can likely be unraveled just as easy.
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Post by agasa on Mar 7, 2022 10:19:00 GMT
Kat's hacking the Seed Bismuth itself More or less Which is probably not good.
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Post by blahzor on Mar 7, 2022 10:47:03 GMT
Kat's hacking the Seed Bismuth itself More or less Which is probably not good. She probably read the EULA this time
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Post by DonDueed on Mar 7, 2022 15:15:32 GMT
Okay, I'm thinking we're looking at another time loop here. Kat is discovering the seed bismuth, which she will eventually send back to the origin of the Court to grow the Court itself.
We know she has/will interact with the Norns again/before.
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 7, 2022 15:56:56 GMT
Well, that's not worrying at all. You have to wonder how far these Bismuth Nanites spread. If they're in everything the Court makes, then they're in the food. They're in everyone's bodies. Are they small enough to play a role in cellular proteins? Muscle fibers? Skeletal structure? And if so, does Llanwellyn have a selective liquefy button?
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Post by mturtle7 on Mar 7, 2022 17:32:12 GMT
Well, that's not worrying at all. You have to wonder how far these Bismuth Nanites spread. If they're in everything the Court makes, then they're in the food. They're in everyone's bodies. Are they small enough to play a role in cellular proteins? Muscle fibers? Skeletal structure? And if so, does Llanwellyn have a selective liquefy button? Fortunately for everyone involved, Kat does specify, "anything used in the construction of the buildings", so the food should be fine, at least in theory. I mean, unless there's a building constructed out of food somewhere in the Court. Which wouldn't actually surprise me, given how many weird buildings and stuff there are in the Court, but even then it's probably not a concern for most people.
Of course, a "selective liquefy button" could arguably be just as, if not more, concerning when it only applies to buildings and construction materials, but I'm going to go ahead and stand by my theory that Kat is currently the only one in the Court who knows about this right now.
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Post by jda on Mar 7, 2022 20:06:00 GMT
WHERE WE ALL LEARN THE cOURT AND THE fOREST ARE ALL THE SAME
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 7, 2022 20:28:53 GMT
Topics for discussion: Can we infer from what Kat says that there is a different structure to matter itself in the Court/Wood than in the outside world as opposed to the same matter subjected to specific processes that left identifiable molecular formation(s) as a result? Do other places close to the ether share this identical structure, posses a similar structure, or simply have the same structure as "normal matter?" Is this variant structure the cause of the Court/Wood being closer to the ether or is it a result? Does matter removed from the Court/Wood retain this structure?
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Post by todd on Mar 8, 2022 2:34:08 GMT
I wonder if this could be a deeper reason why the Court wants to relocate - not just to escape Loup, but to also get away from the "etheric taint" and this time build a new Court without any influence from the etheric, the Seed Bismuth, etc.
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Post by grahamf on Mar 8, 2022 4:47:09 GMT
Well, that's not worrying at all. You have to wonder how far these Bismuth Nanites spread. If they're in everything the Court makes, then they're in the food. They're in everyone's bodies. Are they small enough to play a role in cellular proteins? Muscle fibers? Skeletal structure? And if so, does Llanwellyn have a selective liquefy button? Fortunately for everyone involved, Kat does specify, "anything used in the construction of the buildings", so the food should be fine, at least in theory. I mean, unless there's a building constructed out of food somewhere in the Court. Which wouldn't actually surprise me, given how many weird buildings and stuff there are in the Court, but even then it's probably not a concern for most people.
Of course, a "selective liquefy button" could arguably be just as, if not more, concerning when it only applies to buildings and construction materials, but I'm going to go ahead and stand by my theory that Kat is currently the only one in the Court who knows about this right now.
Didn't Jones say they were tracking the kids through their food? In the story arc where a Zimmy Spider makes a boy go nutso over her? I'd imagine the food might contain nanites, but they break down when eaten.
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Post by drmemory on Mar 8, 2022 7:19:16 GMT
I think we may have just gotten a huge clue as to why the court needs a large quantity of ether energy. I bet that's the kind of power required to manipulate bismuth goo! So if they want to make a new court and don't want to give up their special material... well.
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Post by drmemory on Mar 8, 2022 7:23:30 GMT
Speaking of Bismuth Goo (BG), I wonder how much Diego knew about all of this
Could the golems be made of BG? What about their creations?
What about the New People?
What a can of worms Kat just opened! Worse, she showed it off in public! If I can think of bad things one could do to BG (melting ray, for one example), I have to think the court can think of worse, and perhaps already had.
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Post by speedwell on Mar 8, 2022 8:42:59 GMT
The chemistry and crystal habit of bismuth.
Kat's example shown in the microscope will be a cross-section of the "granular in matrix" form, if pure elemental bismuth is intended (the bismuth symbol will be Tom's shorthand for the bismuth crystal, not the bismuth "molecule"). Particularly interesting and suggestive is the name origin listed in the top box of that page.
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Post by aline on Mar 8, 2022 14:00:57 GMT
Exactly how terrifying is the timeline where Kat turned evil, though? That must have been one hell of an apocalypse. I mean she's what, sixteen? How much closer can you get to actual godhood before you graduate highschool? No wonder Zimmy's afraid of her.
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 8, 2022 14:42:46 GMT
Of course, a "selective liquefy button" could arguably be just as, if not more, concerning when it only applies to buildings and construction materials, but I'm going to go ahead and stand by my theory that Kat is currently the only one in the Court who knows about this right now.
Uh, she's apparently telling everyone present about it right now...
Okay, I'm thinking we're looking at another time loop here. Kat is discovering the seed bismuth, which she will eventually send back to the origin of the Court to grow the Court itself. I really, really hope that is not the way we're going.
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Post by kaz on Mar 8, 2022 17:52:02 GMT
It's the bismuth symbol, which represents the Court. Sounds like a hint about the Seed Bismuth. The same symbol was seen on the microchips in 2583.
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 8, 2022 18:00:54 GMT
The reasons given in panels 2 and 5-6 are quite enough. 'Grin was a lot of trouble.
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