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Post by TBeholder on Feb 17, 2022 12:39:26 GMT
"There's someone for you to be mad at" works as well. The question of 'realness' might actually be an instinct reaction to seeing someone who doesn't look quite human: They grew up in the forest and are probably trying to avoid ending up as a wisp's lunch. Then there's Coyote messing with everyone's heads when bored, and who knows what else. Hmm. Maybe.
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Post by speedwell on Feb 17, 2022 13:33:13 GMT
What are the chances that's Kamlen in the white shirt? You don't think Kamlen would act like those knuckleheads, do you? Just so. Kamlen strikes me as emotionally adult, as do many older teenagers. That's not to say he is perfect or no more prone to mistakes than the rest of us, just that he shows signs of being functionally mature. |
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Post by manabi on Feb 17, 2022 19:22:33 GMT
But it isn't like she was Boxbot or anything. Probably. gosh golly it would make so much sense if Boxbot became aggressively flirty now that people are actually paying attention to it/her! I believe she mentioned putting books away, so that rules out Boxbot, as it's doubtful it could reach anything beyond the shelf above the bottom one. It probably struggled to reach the bottom shelf and accidentally set books on fire and/or ran over them and destroyed them. |
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Post by faiiry on Feb 17, 2022 20:33:56 GMT
The comments that are being manually approved to appear on the main page are making me wildly uncomfortable.
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Post by crater on Feb 18, 2022 1:42:31 GMT
to me she is showing an mix of having the time of her life and awkwardness beyond words
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Post by drmemory on Feb 18, 2022 2:15:09 GMT
These are elf kids, not even human teenage boys. So far we've seen nothing worse than mild flirting. Do you really expect there to be some sort of attack or something???
Frankly, if this did go in a slightly more adult direction, I would bet that it would be Lana taking it there. If she is really a NP (as in, not Coyote), she may be curious and perhaps even hoping. But mild flirting really seems WAY more likely.
If anything bad happens here, I would expect it to come from Loup overreacting or misinterpreting something or other.
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Post by warrl on Feb 18, 2022 2:15:59 GMT
Seems most people think that Lana disapproves of the touching. I, on the other hand, wouldn't be surprised if she were to start singing about roller skates. (But I hope she doesn't.) |
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Post by speedwell on Feb 18, 2022 13:11:18 GMT
These are elf kids, not even human teenage boys. So far we've seen nothing worse than mild flirting. Do you really expect there to be some sort of attack or something??? Frankly, if this did go in a slightly more adult direction, I would bet that it would be Lana taking it there. If she is really a NP (as in, not Coyote), she may be curious and perhaps even hoping. But mild flirting really seems WAY more likely. If anything bad happens here, I would expect it to come from Loup overreacting or misinterpreting something or other. I reasonably expect bored teenage boys to exercise the level of judgment appropriate to their age and developmental level; that is, I expect them to think, in the moment, that something is a good idea, even though later they will realise it was wrong and honestly wonder why the hell they did it. I don't hold this against teenagers; I am a huge champion of children's rights. But understanding, with love, how brains work when they are immature is a way that adults protect children. Needless to say we must include Loup in that same adolescent category. Believing that she's "not a real person" is the most dangerous aspect of this scenario, by the way, even more than the sexual overtones. If they regard her as a thing, not a person, then any of the bad things that people do to other people they have dehumanised are in play. |
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Post by drmemory on Feb 18, 2022 21:31:56 GMT
These are elf kids, not even human teenage boys. So far we've seen nothing worse than mild flirting. Do you really expect there to be some sort of attack or something??? Frankly, if this did go in a slightly more adult direction, I would bet that it would be Lana taking it there. If she is really a NP (as in, not Coyote), she may be curious and perhaps even hoping. But mild flirting really seems WAY more likely. If anything bad happens here, I would expect it to come from Loup overreacting or misinterpreting something or other. Well I certainly called THAT one! Loup broke the guys finger, right? The rest is a bit of a surprise - I have to think that Loup did not make a conscious decision to "protect" Lana there, but rather jumped to her defense when he didn't like what was going on. Not a misinterpretation either - that elf boy was looking way more creepy than expected, and the three of them seemed like they were entering "bully mode" or something. Not good.
Still, he was probably going for a show, rather than an attack, but what do I know? I was a shy kid and not aggressive in the least. Still that way actually.
Wonder what led to that reaction? Coyote or Ysengrin disciplining a forest dweller for doing something uncool? Or Loup defending his friend, even though he doesn't consciously think of her as a friend? Or what? Can't wait to find out!
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Post by speedwell on Feb 19, 2022 2:27:58 GMT
Well I certainly called THAT one! Loup broke the guys finger, right? The rest is a bit of a surprise - I have to think that Loup did not make a conscious decision to "protect" Lana there, but rather jumped to her defense when he didn't like what was going on. Not a misinterpretation either - that elf boy was looking way more creepy than expected, and the three of them seemed like they were entering "bully mode" or something. Not good.
Still, he was probably going for a show, rather than an attack, but what do I know? I was a shy kid and not aggressive in the least. Still that way actually.
Wonder what led to that reaction? Coyote or Ysengrin disciplining a forest dweller for doing something uncool? Or Loup defending his friend, even though he doesn't consciously think of her as a friend? Or what? Can't wait to find out!
The main theme of the comic could be thought of as how various sorts of minds and various sorts of bodies work together and independently. In this case we may be addressing the part of that question that asks whether and to what extent the body that Loup chose affects how he thinks and acts. |
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Post by Igniz on Feb 19, 2022 11:59:00 GMT
Doesn't she die later in the game? Yes, she does  (and because plot she doesn't get revived, in contrast to Zero, aka MMX's Krillin). |
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Post by drmemory on Feb 20, 2022 20:38:11 GMT
Well I certainly called THAT one! Loup broke the guys finger, right? The rest is a bit of a surprise - I have to think that Loup did not make a conscious decision to "protect" Lana there, but rather jumped to her defense when he didn't like what was going on. Not a misinterpretation either - that elf boy was looking way more creepy than expected, and the three of them seemed like they were entering "bully mode" or something. Not good.
Still, he was probably going for a show, rather than an attack, but what do I know? I was a shy kid and not aggressive in the least. Still that way actually.
Wonder what led to that reaction? Coyote or Ysengrin disciplining a forest dweller for doing something uncool? Or Loup defending his friend, even though he doesn't consciously think of her as a friend? Or what? Can't wait to find out!
The main theme of the comic could be thought of as how various sorts of minds and various sorts of bodies work together and independently. In this case we may be addressing the part of that question that asks whether and to what extent the body that Loup chose affects how he thinks and acts. Hmmm. Maybe so. I've always been haunted by Renard's comment about the mind being the plaything of the body early on. So you're suggesting he intervened because that is what Jerek would have done in that situation? Maybe Jerek if he had Loup's power and lack of self-control? I have to think that realJerek would have been a lot more passive in that situation, if there were one.
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 20, 2022 21:01:18 GMT
The main theme of the comic could be thought of as how various sorts of minds and various sorts of bodies work together and independently. In this case we may be addressing the part of that question that asks whether and to what extent the body that Loup chose affects how he thinks and acts. Hmmm. Maybe so. I've always been haunted by Renard's comment about the mind being the plaything of the body early on. So you're suggesting he intervened because that is what Jerek would have done in that situation? Maybe Jerek if he had Loup's power and lack of self-control? I have to think that realJerek would have been a lot more passive in that situation, if there were one.
Maybe the wolf inside him subconsciously considers Lana a member of his pack now that she and him both look like humans, and the (green) elf guys as another pack that is aggressively surrounding her... and even if he thinks little of her, he, as the alpha wolf (naturally), cannot stand by and watch while one of his pack members is being threatened? |
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Post by speedwell on Feb 20, 2022 21:52:06 GMT
The main theme of the comic could be thought of as how various sorts of minds and various sorts of bodies work together and independently. In this case we may be addressing the part of that question that asks whether and to what extent the body that Loup chose affects how he thinks and acts. Hmmm. Maybe so. I've always been haunted by Renard's comment about the mind being the plaything of the body early on. So you're suggesting he intervened because that is what Jerek would have done in that situation? Maybe Jerek if he had Loup's power and lack of self-control? I have to think that realJerek would have been a lot more passive in that situation, if there were one.
I think we were all guessing that Jerrek was the facilities engineer robot. We've seen that isn't so, at least. I wonder if Jerrek's name is the first thing Loup thought of when he remembered he was a jerk, though.  Anyway, Loup is cosplaying a New Person; you could even say role-playing a character. Whether this is Loup being Loup or whether it's Loup being Jerrek being Loup probably makes no substantial difference. |
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The question of 'realness' might actually be an instinct reaction to seeing someone who doesn't look quite human: They grew up in the forest and are probably trying to avoid ending up as a wisp's lunch.
(and because plot she doesn't get revived, in contrast to Zero, aka MMX's Krillin).