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Post by philman on Dec 13, 2021 8:31:57 GMT
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Post by madjack on Dec 13, 2021 8:39:38 GMT
Teenage cruelty already, they grow so fast!
Edit: It shouldn't be all that surprising that Annie is already becoming friends with the New People, she always was more comfortable around anyone other than humans.
Also, given the stride she's taking this in, either she's still got some of the obliviousness or this isn't the first one crushing on her she's had to deal with.
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Post by Tenjen on Dec 13, 2021 9:10:59 GMT
and so, he never cut his hair ever
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Post by noone3 on Dec 13, 2021 9:26:14 GMT
Teenage cruelty already, they grow so fast! I'm not sure she knows, what she's doing to this poor guy's ehm... motivator. |
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 13, 2021 9:41:26 GMT
Dat cheesy grin.  Only Lana is friendly with Annie. Jerrek wasn't introduced until now. … Also, is Annie actively trying to see how red he can get? |
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Post by blahzor on Dec 13, 2021 9:46:49 GMT
Teenage cruelty already, they grow so fast! I'm not sure she knows, what she's doing to this poor guy's ehm... motivator. Since Rey is always connected to her he's probably going to tesse or have teased her about stuff like this so she's use to it. If the guy had a chance he'd be all dad about it already |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Dec 13, 2021 12:28:33 GMT
Teenage cruelty already, they grow so fast! Edit: It shouldn't be all that surprising that Annie is already becoming friends with the New People, she always was more comfortable around anyone other than humans. Also, given the stride she's taking this in, either she's still got some of the obliviousness or this isn't the first one crushing on her she's had to deal with. Does... Does chapter 113, Robot Handling; section H: Miscellaneous still apply to New People??? I know we're kinda making an exception for Romeo Arthur and Juliette, but do we just throw out the entire manual now? |
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Post by madjack on Dec 13, 2021 13:17:27 GMT
Teenage cruelty already, they grow so fast! I'm not sure she knows, what she's doing to this poor guy's ehm... motivator. doesn't know? Teenage cruelty already, they grow so fast! Edit: It shouldn't be all that surprising that Annie is already becoming friends with the New People, she always was more comfortable around anyone other than humans. Also, given the stride she's taking this in, either she's still got some of the obliviousness or this isn't the first one crushing on her she's had to deal with. Does... Does chapter 113, Robot Handling; section H: Miscellaneous still apply to New People??? I know we're kinda making an exception for Romeo Arthur and Juliette, but do we just throw out the entire manual now? They aren't robots anymore so that manual should go straight into the recycling bin. |
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Post by pyradonis on Dec 13, 2021 13:24:29 GMT
Teenage cruelty already, they grow so fast! Edit: It shouldn't be all that surprising that Annie is already becoming friends with the New People, she always was more comfortable around anyone other than humans. Also, given the stride she's taking this in, either she's still got some of the obliviousness or this isn't the first one crushing on her she's had to deal with. It's Annie. Put my ten quatloos on her being blissfully unaware. |
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Post by Gemminie on Dec 13, 2021 15:50:18 GMT
We learn that our two New People friends are named Lana and Jerrek, which helps us readers greatly. Lana has noticed that Jerrek is attracted to Annie and waves her over, to Jerrek's great embarrassment. Again, it's very interesting that Jerrek is attracted to Annie and that this embarrassment strategy works. Is Lana being cruel to Jerrek, or does she think she's being helpful, arranging an introduction?
Annie knows Lana's name, which means they've met at some point, though it's unclear when. Annie's natural medium talent is working here, making her social interactions seem easy. Jerrek, on the other hand, is feeling a flood of emotions, but more than that, probably unfamiliar hormonal and possibly physical reactions. Annie asks about how his new body's working out, and, well, he's blushing a lot, he puts his hands between his legs, and he looks off in another direction. And he talks about how his hair gets in his eyes, something he's mentioned before on camera. Annie politely says she thinks his hair looks nice, but is she oblivious to what's going on? This is Annie we're talking about, so she probably knows he's embarrassed, but I doubt she's picking up on his attraction to her.
Annie says there are "so many of you" now. How many are there? Speaking generally, the impression I'm getting is that there are at least dozens, possibly up to about 100. With more of them to search, the process of finding CPUs in the rubble will accelerate, up to the point where they start being hard to find, requiring excavation, etc. What happens when the Court notices? Or at least, what happens when the Court-modified robots notice? We've seen them used as security patrols. Will we see a situation where a New Person has to confront and possibly destroy their own previous body?
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Post by ctso74 on Dec 13, 2021 16:39:42 GMT
Annie: "You need a hair clip... Just don't lose it."
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Post by Igniz on Dec 13, 2021 19:10:17 GMT
"Annie! Hey, Annie! Over here!" I'm liking Lana more and more by the minute. |
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Post by warrl on Dec 13, 2021 19:22:36 GMT
The question is, does she enjoy teasing boys? Or just Jerrek?
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Post by pyradonis on Dec 13, 2021 19:36:56 GMT
Annie's natural medium talent is working here, making her social interactions seem easy. Funny thought: This never worked with humans. Which speaks in favor of the New People not being like humans completely. |
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 13, 2021 19:52:16 GMT
It's Annie. Put my ten quatloos on her being blissfully unaware. Why? She did see Andrew & Parley when they acted funny. If not Janet & William. We learn that our two New People friends are named Lana and Jerrek, which helps us readers greatly. Lana has noticed that Jerrek is attracted to Annie and waves her over, to Jerrek's great embarrassment. Again, it's very interesting that Jerrek is attracted to Annie and that this embarrassment strategy works. Is Lana being cruel to Jerrek, or does she think she's being helpful, arranging an introduction? Or regards this as "educational for you, entertaining for me"? |
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Post by jda on Dec 13, 2021 20:31:38 GMT
"How are you finding your new body?
-hmmm sometimes its hard to accustom, and I don't know why.
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Post by pyradonis on Dec 13, 2021 23:21:04 GMT
It's Annie. Put my ten quatloos on her being blissfully unaware. Why? She did see Andrew & Parley when they acted funny. If not Janet & William. I would argue that Parley's behaviour was much more obvious as it was very physical. |
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Post by lurkerbot on Dec 14, 2021 0:32:29 GMT
It's Annie. Put my ten quatloos on her being blissfully unaware. Why? She did see Andrew & Parley when they acted funny. If not Janet & William. Perhaps Antimony is capable of recognizing obvious attractions affecting others, but not when the focus of someone's interest is herself. |
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Post by Igniz on Dec 14, 2021 5:06:49 GMT
Perhaps Antimony is capable of recognizing obvious attractions affecting others, but not when the focus of someone's interest is herself. Just as a lot of people in the world, both in fiction and in real life.  |
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Post by blahzor on Dec 14, 2021 5:50:27 GMT
Teenage cruelty already, they grow so fast! Edit: It shouldn't be all that surprising that Annie is already becoming friends with the New People, she always was more comfortable around anyone other than humans. Also, given the stride she's taking this in, either she's still got some of the obliviousness or this isn't the first one crushing on her she's had to deal with. Does... Does chapter 113, Robot Handling; section H: Miscellaneous still apply to New People??? I know we're kinda making an exception for Romeo Arthur and Juliette, but do we just throw out the entire manual now? That rule is for baby boomers Us NP's are the free love generation |
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Post by blahzor on Dec 14, 2021 5:51:49 GMT
Annie's natural medium talent is working here, making her social interactions seem easy. Funny thought: This never worked with humans. Which speaks in favor of the New People not being like humans completely. So you're saying Kat isn't human. Robo Angel powers activate |
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Post by davidm on Dec 14, 2021 7:05:25 GMT
I am not seeing how any of this is "cruelty" as other commentator does. He likes a girl, he gets to talk to her, that is a positive for him. Sure there may be some frustration if he doesn't get to have her, but there would also be frustration if he didn't get to even talk to her so doesn't even know if he would have been able to have her. Being able to be friends with her without ever having her as girlfriend may be happy experience for his life.
He is like a guy who has no clue how to dance and knows it, who is given a chance to dance. It is a chance to gain skills, grow. It would be harder/crueler if there was no chance to learn how to dance, even if that was less "awkward" than a clumsy dance.
And there is a chance he does get to have her, its not not really that different than any other guy, we already have a lady who fell in love with a robot, and he might be a solution to the "Annie slowly dies after she has a baby because of her fire part" that haunted Anthony with Surma.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Dec 14, 2021 8:53:03 GMT
I am not seeing how any of this is "cruelty" as other commentator does. He likes a girl, he gets to talk to her, that is a positive for him. Sure there may be some frustration if he doesn't get to have her, but there would also be frustration if he didn't get to even talk to her so doesn't even know if he would have been able to have her. Being able to be friends with her without ever having her as girlfriend may be happy experience for his life. He is like a guy who has no clue how to dance and knows it, who is given a chance to dance. It is a chance to gain skills, grow. It would be harder/crueler if there was no chance to learn how to dance, even if that was less "awkward" than a clumsy dance. And there is a chance he does get to have her, its not not really that different than any other guy, we already have a lady who fell in love with a robot, and he might be a solution to the "Annie slowly dies after she has a baby because of her fire part" that haunted Anthony with Surma. The "cruelty" is this: Friend sees that friend looks flustered and knows that he is still not sure of his new body/uncomfortable with his new life. Instead of gently helping him she pushes him straight into the deep end. Things are turning out to be okay because Annie is handling it like a champ, but this could've gone very Mean Girls too. I remember when I was a kid, first time there was a class dance during a school trip, I was cowering in a corner because not everyone has the necessary coping skills at the time they would need them. Same thing could've happened here. Jerrek could've completly shut down, felt overwhelmed,... And to the last thing: no. None of these NP should get a relationship with either Annie or another maincast class member for a very very VERY long time. They lack a lot of maturity and life experience before they should think about relationships. J&A's relationship was built over a lifetime, none of the NP seem to be at this level. |
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Post by blahzor on Dec 14, 2021 9:10:39 GMT
I am not seeing how any of this is "cruelty" as other commentator does. He likes a girl, he gets to talk to her, that is a positive for him. Sure there may be some frustration if he doesn't get to have her, but there would also be frustration if he didn't get to even talk to her so doesn't even know if he would have been able to have her. Being able to be friends with her without ever having her as girlfriend may be happy experience for his life. He is like a guy who has no clue how to dance and knows it, who is given a chance to dance. It is a chance to gain skills, grow. It would be harder/crueler if there was no chance to learn how to dance, even if that was less "awkward" than a clumsy dance. And there is a chance he does get to have her, its not not really that different than any other guy, we already have a lady who fell in love with a robot, and he might be a solution to the "Annie slowly dies after she has a baby because of her fire part" that haunted Anthony with Surma. He's like maybe a month old tops |
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Post by davidm on Dec 14, 2021 12:49:55 GMT
They are New People, do not assume that they are like one month old baby humans. A human takes years to even walk, but a baby lamb/deer/calf/etc walks with minutes of being born. And within days/weeks the newborn animals are already doing "social interactions" including pretend mating games. A new person may very well be mature enough to handle the "horrible strain" of talking to a human they like, in their previous life as robots they already did talking to humans for years and occasionally liking them. We have example of boxbot robot, said "Hello" to Annie, was rejected as "not a proper robot", said "Awwwwww", and continued on in life's dance probably without big emotional suffering from such a "mean" rejection to potential offer of friendship. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=203If I was a new person liking a girl, I would happily take the help, most of the time real life guys have it a lot harder solo being socially expected to initiate the conversation with females and not knowing what is wanted by them, uncertainty of say hello and get rejected/(make girl less happy) like boxbot or perhaps the attention would be welcome. And looking back years later the seeming "rejections" can be as much or more a cherished enjoyable memory as the seeming friendly/charmer type response from same liked girl, in both cases can be more fun to get an answer, do the social dance than it can be to sit in uncertain world of trapped in not being able to and never learning much of anything, a feeling of being more helpless because "clumsy" and not able to improve to "skilled"/(knowing how to make girls happier). Closest I can think back to similar situation as comic, when I was young there was a time, during summer break from school I hadn't seen anyone my age for weeks including girls, lived on acreage without car transport, or bus access to city life, used bike to go to bank to put money into my account and the teller was a girl of similar, maybe a bit older age to me. I got hit by the awkward "she looks very pretty" type emotion similar to in this comic probably from being the first girl I had seen in long time, I did my banking (a sort of forced social interaction, because I am in line, she is the open teller, have to interact, would be silly to run away) , she gave a sort of patronising reaction back as she took care of me (like she was an adult dealing with a child), I knew the other employees had a sort of humorous response watching, it felt like "rejection" but I didn't mind, I understood I was young and the reasons why and laughed about my own foolishness as I biked home. And in end many years later, that is cherished memory of my youth when I remember little else back then. |
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Post by Gemminie on Dec 14, 2021 15:24:36 GMT
He's like maybe a month old tops On the one hand, Jerrek's been a robot for a very long time, possibly centuries. On the other hand, he doesn't seem to remember much of that for some reason (my current guess is that it simply wasn't very memorable, just checking on some pipes every day, not much social interaction even with other robots). The fact is, he is like a person who's been around for a while when suddenly his body is reacting differently to everything and he's overwhelmed. This is like adolescence. |
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Post by mturtle7 on Dec 14, 2021 18:43:22 GMT
Why? She did see Andrew & Parley when they acted funny. If not Janet & William. Perhaps Antimony is capable of recognizing obvious attractions affecting others, but not when the focus of someone's interest is herself. My personal headcanon is that she's decent at noticing other peoples' emotions and relationships and stuff, but often has no idea how to respond appropriately to them. For instance, during this scene, I like to imagine that she's totally aware that Parley & Smitty are "having a moment", but it simply doesn't occur to her that maybe this means she should shut up about the whole Jeanne thing for now and give them some damn privacy. And on the latest page, I'm currently imagining that she's noticed Jerrek's super awkward attraction to her, but isn't really sure what to do about it, and is thus just completely ignoring it and treating him like she'd treat any other newly-embodied New Person (I still like "androids" as a term for them but it seems like that's a bit of a lost cause by now). |
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Post by mturtle7 on Dec 14, 2021 18:48:54 GMT
Also, I would like to point that technically, since Renard is still standing right next to Annie, we still have no evidence one way or the other which one of them Jerrek is crushing on.
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Post by speedwell on Dec 14, 2021 18:59:24 GMT
As someone married to a long-haired nerdy autistic man named Derek who often finds it awkward to get a good "read" on his own emotional state, I am laughing my @$$ off - I mean, enjoying this scene very much. 😉
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Post by drmemory on Dec 15, 2021 2:00:41 GMT
So cute.  I'm not gonna analyze this one. How often do we get a meet/cute? |
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I'm not gonna analyze this one. How often do we get a meet/cute?