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Post by madjack on Dec 6, 2021 8:09:21 GMT
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Post by noone3 on Dec 6, 2021 8:18:19 GMT
Angel Kat's refurbishing centre.
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Post by rafk on Dec 6, 2021 8:31:09 GMT
Prediction - Cylon Model 8 here is about to suffer a faith-bruising brush off from a creator who judging from the body language and smile might be having a moment with her girlfriend at the moment.
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Post by Sky Schemer on Dec 6, 2021 8:56:57 GMT
The real power of the Court is their endless supply of track suits.
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Post by basser on Dec 6, 2021 9:23:02 GMT
I know there's zero connection but man the big ole group in identical tracksuits is giving me some real Squid Game vibes. Obviously our sweet robo-children could never be compelled to engage in violent allegorical bloodsport, though, so I'm sure it'll be fine. (I really am sure, to be clear - just poking fun at the wardrobe choice.) |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Dec 6, 2021 10:42:03 GMT
Maybe a little continuity/drawing error in the last two frames: Red-eye's pants go from 3/4s to full length.
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Post by philman on Dec 6, 2021 10:58:44 GMT
So much industry, so much busywork, so many uniforms. The worrying Cylon similarities will definitely continue...
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Post by Corvo on Dec 6, 2021 11:44:17 GMT
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Post by ctso74 on Dec 6, 2021 15:38:10 GMT
So much industry, so much busywork, so many uniforms. The worrying Cylon similarities will definitely continue... I, for one, welcome our new synthetic overlords. I wonder if they have music playing? They didn't need it as robots, but might prefer it now. With their varied backgrounds, and new unique tastes, what playlist would be on the dock's boombox? |
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Post by bedinsis on Dec 6, 2021 17:22:04 GMT
So much industry, so much busywork, so many uniforms. The worrying Cylon similarities will definitely continue... I, for one, welcome our new synthetic overlords. I wonder if they have music playing? They didn't need it as robots, but might prefer it now. With their varied backgrounds, and new unique tastes, what playlist would be on the dock's boombox? Daft Punk? |
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Post by saardvark on Dec 6, 2021 18:17:00 GMT
... and we have our first NP with a "standard human" (or close, anyway) iris color:
panel 2, blonde NP at left.
So the don't all have unusual, non-human colors....
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Post by mturtle7 on Dec 6, 2021 18:44:11 GMT
So much industry, so much busywork, so many uniforms. The worrying Cylon similarities will definitely continue... I, for one, welcome our new synthetic overlords. I wonder if they have music playing? They didn't need it as robots, but might prefer it now. With their varied backgrounds, and new unique tastes, what playlist would be on the dock's boombox? I'd like to think that that one trumpet robot from way back when has finally learned how to play, and is now providing live music of some sort. Not sure what kind, though. |
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Post by pyradonis on Dec 7, 2021 0:16:16 GMT
Aaand so much for my cookies. Kat is aware of everything after all. But with such a huge operation and everyone casually out in the open there's no way the court isn't aware of what's going on as well. So...why don't they do anything? Too busy with kicking Aata out? No need for sentient robots anymore anyway where they are going? I assume the Court is satisfied with the bots they programmed themselves, and regardless of whether none, some or all of the chassis buried during Loup's freakout are salvageable, they might just not care for what happens with the original CPUs. The Court-made AIs are probably much more reliable and less prone to neglecting their work to join transhumanist (transrobotist?) cults. The real power of the Court is their endless supply of track suits. The real treasure are the tracksuits we made along the way? So much industry, so much busywork, so many uniforms. The worrying Cylon similarities will definitely continue... I, for one, welcome our new synthetic overlords. I wonder if they have music playing? They didn't need it as robots, but might prefer it now. With their varied backgrounds, and new unique tastes, what playlist would be on the dock's boombox? My guess is Kraftwerk. |
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Post by heranje on Dec 7, 2021 1:39:20 GMT
... and we have our first NP with a "standard human" (or close, anyway) iris color: panel 2, blonde NP at left. So the don't all have unusual, non-human colors.... I don't know, their eyes still look slightly more vivid blue than Tom would usually draw "normal human" eyes - especially considering RedHair and BrownHair's eyes also look slightly more muted in that panel than they have in previous pages. Green is a "standard human" eye colour as well after all, it just doesn't come in as vivid shades as the NPs we've seen with green eyes. I'm clinging to my theory that something about the NPs' eye sensors requires them to be vivid, highly saturated shades. |
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Post by drmemory on Dec 7, 2021 5:34:59 GMT
So far it doesn't look like we're geting Cylons at least - it looks like the RND function produces way more than 8 models! So that's probably good. It doesn't rule out things going bad when the court figures all of this out, of course... Tom doesn't usually have big battles or anything, but they way things are set here we could have quite a mess bearing down on our heroes! NP vs. Shadow Men vs. Court vs. displaced forest dwellers vs. Loup? Or some subset of that. Maybe we'll see really busy pyschopomps soon! Also, I know it isn't very likely, because it was not recommended, but I can't help hoping the guy in panel 6 shows up! I can hope, can't I? Kat said they'd keep the ones who chose RND within certain bounds, but she also seems to be letting them design their own if they like. As the librarian did.
Failing that, maybe we'll at least see some NP that decide to not look baseline human, like the fairy look in panel 4, same page.
It's probably perverse of me, but I would find a bunch of them deciding to look EXACTLY like Aata to be hilarious! Just picture it...
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Post by drmemory on Dec 7, 2021 5:54:03 GMT
... and we have our first NP with a "standard human" (or close, anyway) iris color: panel 2, blonde NP at left. So the don't all have unusual, non-human colors.... I don't know, their eyes still look slightly more vivid blue than Tom would usually draw "normal human" eyes - especially considering RedHair and BrownHair's eyes also look slightly more muted in that panel than they have in previous pages. Green is a "standard human" eye colour as well after all, it just doesn't come in as vivid shades as the NPs we've seen with green eyes. I'm clinging to my theory that something about the NPs' eye sensors requires them to be vivid, highly saturated shades. Hmmm. I wonder how final the selection of body is? Will Kat allow them to re-pick? Will the NP be able to adjust things w/o divine (Katgelic) intervention?
This came up because of your comments on the eye colors, coupled with the observation that the latest NP look more human than Arthur did when last we saw him. Can Arthur's body be adjusted/improved without having to switch to a new one?
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Post by maxptc on Dec 7, 2021 6:31:23 GMT
Them all wearing the same track suit gives the whole operation a cult vibe to me. Wonder if that's intentional.
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Post by drmemory on Dec 7, 2021 19:05:45 GMT
Them all wearing the same track suit gives the whole operation a cult vibe to me. Wonder if that's intentional. Maybe that's what Kat figured out how to make her computer make? Dunno. I'm picturing an assembly line process - chip goes in, New Person comes out, picks up track suit and sneakers from piles on tables, gets basic instructions on how to put on clothing and a little speech...
I get the sense things have accelerated! That's a lot of NP standing around, and some are out there aggressively getting more CPUs to bring her. Get as many done as you can before the court freaks? I agree with those who have said things like "if the court didn't know before, surely they must now!".
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Post by drmemory on Dec 7, 2021 19:14:54 GMT
Actually, I think that assembly line theory isn't that far off, just incomplete.
1. Question and answer desks, manned by NP
2. Where to get your track suit and shoes 3. Tents, manned by NP - dunno purpose, could be dispensary for other items or repair stations or something else 4. Manufacturing bay - note van!
Are we seeing an exodus in progress?
Whatever Kat and the NP are up to, it's happening at a pretty large scale. Also, that's a whole row of warehouse bays there, not just her old lab! I'm almost suspicious that maybe she's made her stuff more portable, and it's in the van and under the tents, but that's a guess. Equally possible that she's shipping things in or out.
This isn't just a teenage girl in her lab any more! You can feel the excitement!
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Post by blahzor on Dec 7, 2021 19:30:06 GMT
double red NP: There she is.
There she goes
There she goes again
Racing through my brain
And I just can't contain
This feeling that remains
There she goes
There she goes again
Pulsing through my veins
And I just can't contain
This feeling that remains
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Post by Gemminie on Dec 7, 2021 22:58:46 GMT
It appears that Kat's workshop, and the ones next door to it, are full of the new androids and their activities. It's hard to see just what they're all doing. There appear to be some figures sitting on tables in the upper left corner of the first frame, and it seems that there's some sort of assembly line extending out the second door. Some small tents are scattered outside the third door, sheltering crates of some kind, and at least one table. Someone's pushing a crate out the fourth door toward those tents, and a larger construction of some sort extends off the bottom of the frame.
Our two android friends have arrived in the second frame, and we see several other ones around, all wearing similar track suits – my guess is that Kat had her fabrication system make lots of identical-other-than-size track suits so all the androids would have some sort of initial outfit. That may in fact be what's in the crates and what's being distributed from the tents – everyone's initial clothing. The red-haired one's zipper is still halfway open.
The two androids spot Kat, and perhaps most interestingly, the red-haired one notes that she's working late, rather than, say, approaching her and giving her the CPUs they brought. They're in a bit of awe, I think, which is certainly consistent with how they've been looking at Kat up to now. Kat's talking to someone out of frame and seems fairly cheerful and breezy. Perhaps nobody's told her yet that her new friends aren't being very careful at the excavation site. Or perhaps it hasn't occurred to her that the Court's response to her project may not be positive. Who knows?
I wonder if the hair-cutting and Model H robots got called to shield duty.
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Post by Gemminie on Dec 7, 2021 23:07:00 GMT
Aaand so much for my cookies. Kat is aware of everything after all. But with such a huge operation and everyone casually out in the open there's no way the court isn't aware of what's going on as well. So...why don't they do anything? Too busy with kicking Aata out? No need for sentient robots anymore anyway where they are going? I assume the Court is satisfied with the bots they programmed themselves, and regardless of whether none, some or all of the chassis buried during Loup's freakout are salvageable, they might just not care for what happens with the original CPUs. The Court-made AIs are probably much more reliable and less prone to neglecting their work to join transhumanist (transrobotist?) cults. Well, Shell did tell Annie that the Court was already under way with its relocation project. It may be that many of the ones in charge are already wherever they're going, or in transit, or shuttling between the two keeping busy. At least some of the Shadow Men are probably pretty distracted right now too, filling out reports and undergoing debriefing, since they just returned from their mission, and since it went nothing like what was planned. It's still possible that the Court hasn't noticed any of this yet. It seems unlikely that it never will, though. What will they do? As you say, perhaps they won't care. Or maybe they will – not because they want their old robots back, because as you say the new ones are fine, but maybe what Kat's doing is of interest, either positively or negatively. Positively: Will they find out about Kat's angel side? Will they try to use it to power the Omega Device? Negatively: Will they see the androids as an invading army? Will they see this new faction as a threat to their power and try to crush it? |
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Post by mturtle7 on Dec 8, 2021 5:13:13 GMT
I don't know, their eyes still look slightly more vivid blue than Tom would usually draw "normal human" eyes - especially considering RedHair and BrownHair's eyes also look slightly more muted in that panel than they have in previous pages. Green is a "standard human" eye colour as well after all, it just doesn't come in as vivid shades as the NPs we've seen with green eyes. I'm clinging to my theory that something about the NPs' eye sensors requires them to be vivid, highly saturated shades. Hmmm. I wonder how final the selection of body is? Will Kat allow them to re-pick? Will the NP be able to adjust things w/o divine (Katgelic) intervention?
This came up because of your comments on the eye colors, coupled with the observation that the latest NP look more human than Arthur did when last we saw him. Can Arthur's body be adjusted/improved without having to switch to a new one?
Your specifically calling out Arthur made me remember that this page was a thing, and it actually has a great answer to your great question! Apparently, not only can the robots change their bodies, they actually do it using Kat's "matter transference" system - she can literally just teleport one part out and replace it with another. Although, it does specify "modular parts", so maybe there are some parts that aren't modular, and thus a limit to how much can be changed in this way. |
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Post by warrl on Dec 8, 2021 5:34:21 GMT
Whatever Kat and the NP are up to, it's happening at a pretty large scale. Also, that's a whole row of warehouse bays there, not just her old lab! I'm almost suspicious that maybe she's made her stuff more portable, and it's in the van and under the tents, but that's a guess. Equally possible that she's shipping things in or out. This isn't just a teenage girl in her lab any more! You can feel the excitement!
That's looking like quite a population increase... the Court had room+buildings for it before Coyote's land wave, but does it still? And does it have everything else, such as food? If they had to bring in clothing on an "emergency" basis, a shipping container full of track suits would be quite plausible. |
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Post by pyradonis on Dec 8, 2021 12:34:13 GMT
Them all wearing the same track suit gives the whole operation a cult vibe to me. Wonder if that's intentional. The GKC robots, joining a cult? Huh... Sounds fake to me. |
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Post by drmemory on Dec 8, 2021 16:11:33 GMT
Hmmm. I wonder how final the selection of body is? Will Kat allow them to re-pick? Will the NP be able to adjust things w/o divine (Katgelic) intervention?
This came up because of your comments on the eye colors, coupled with the observation that the latest NP look more human than Arthur did when last we saw him. Can Arthur's body be adjusted/improved without having to switch to a new one?
Your specifically calling out Arthur made me remember that this page was a thing, and it actually has a great answer to your great question! Apparently, not only can the robots change their bodies, they actually do it using Kat's "matter transference" system - she can literally just teleport one part out and replace it with another. Although, it does specify "modular parts", so maybe there are some parts that aren't modular, and thus a limit to how much can be changed in this way. You are correct, I had totally forgotten the "modular" thing. Cool! So we could have already seen the latest version of Arthur and just not recognized him.  |
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Post by drmemory on Dec 8, 2021 16:20:31 GMT
Actually, I think that assembly line theory isn't that far off, just incomplete.
1. Question and answer desks, manned by NP
2. Where to get your track suit and shoes 3. Tents, manned by NP - dunno purpose, could be dispensary for other items or repair stations or something else 4. Manufacturing bay - note van! Update:
1. Picnic tables! Not Q&A desks, places to eat and socialize. 2. Still looks like where you get your track suit and shoes. 3. Maybe where NP pick up food? I was thinking the tents might be help desks also. 4. Still seems like a manufacturing bay, based on the large box being taken out and the truck or van backing up to it (or leaving).
I did a little research in old comics, and I think we might actually still be at the site of Kat's original lab. She's just taken over the rest of the bays. The face of the warehouse looks pretty familiar. If so, stuff has happened, probably due to the Loup thing - there didn't used to be dirt next to the parking lot!
So either this is a new site they've taken over or built, or the surrounding stuff got flattened as a result of Loup's actions.
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