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Post by jda on Sept 15, 2021 7:03:23 GMT
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Post by aline on Sept 15, 2021 7:04:56 GMT
Looks like Eglamore is seriously out of the loop on this one.
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Post by philman on Sept 15, 2021 7:06:11 GMT
Looks like Aata has been hiding something from the rest of the group.
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Post by noone3 on Sept 15, 2021 7:42:28 GMT
And all I'm able to think looking at Eaglemore's mug is wondering when Parley will be growing a beard...
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Post by agasa on Sept 15, 2021 9:04:04 GMT
And all I'm able to think looking at Eaglemore's mug is wondering when Parley will be growing a beard... Wa-bam. This happens. More work for barberbot.
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 15, 2021 11:22:21 GMT
Looks like Aata has been hiding something from the rest of the group. Well, if revealing his abilities might be what gets him thrown out of "the program", whatever that is...
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Post by ohthatone on Sept 15, 2021 11:32:56 GMT
And this is how annie, and the entire female audience, learned that normal men actually have super flower powers. Your dad, your brother, from the neighborhood comic book guy to the salty sea captain, all have hidden this ability from the world until Tom outed them. Good job, guy!
Seriously though, it's no surprise eggs wouldn't know more about aata. I'm sure the Court wouldn't hire a guardian who asks a lot of questions.
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Post by blahzor on Sept 15, 2021 12:39:44 GMT
I officially don't think this Annie is Annie, she said "sir" when talking to him
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Post by rabbit on Sept 15, 2021 13:02:48 GMT
Looks like Aata has been hiding something from the rest of the group. Not everyone, maybe? Shell did not seem surprised that he has etheric abilities...
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Post by ctso74 on Sept 15, 2021 13:54:32 GMT
Aata: "I'm just a 'normal' guy. Nothing to see here." Shadow Men: "... Seems legit." There had to be some in the SM program, that knew about Aata's abilities. I'm guessing it'll come more into focus, when we discover what " In my failure, I prove myself correct" was all about. I keep wanting to say "That's a terrible way to prove yourself right, Aata", but it is oddly in sync with the scientific method.
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Post by Gemminie on Sept 15, 2021 14:35:56 GMT
So here Annie tells James ... a few things. But not everything. Still not one mention of the dagger, and a lot about Aata. There's still a blue light coming from the tunnel behind James and Parley – maybe some kind of magic thing, maybe an emergency flare, maybe an electric light. We don't see Annie's werelight anymore, but it must still be around, because the blue light seems to be far away, and yet the light we're seeing by in the foreground isn't blue. Oh, today I learned about blue light, which isn't necessarily blue, although antimony or copper compounds can be added to it to make it blue. Did Coyote really say that Loup's attack was Aata's fault? Seems so. James doesn't know about Aata's ethereal power, assuming he's being honest, which it seems he usually is. And then ... there's that glance between him and Parley in the final frame. Hmm. I suspect that the entire Omega Device thing is basically the Shadow Men "meddling with the supernatural." Have they had conversations about this before? Parley said at one point that James had never mentioned anything called an Omega Device to her ... but that was a while ago; has he mentioned it since then? Or have they had more general conversations about such things, not mentioning Omega specifically?
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Post by warrl on Sept 15, 2021 18:08:38 GMT
Looks like Aata has been hiding something from the rest of the group. Not everyone, maybe? Shell did not seem surprised that he has etheric abilities... Reinforcing my suspicion that the two of them have some relationship other than both being Shadowmen. (Note: I did not say it's a romantic relationship. I'm thinking more along the lines of uncle and niece, or foster parent/child, etc. Although not a lot of evidence so far.)
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 15, 2021 19:45:02 GMT
Reinforcing my suspicion that the two of them have some relationship other than both being Shadowmen. (Note: I did not say it's a romantic relationship. I'm thinking more along the lines of uncle and niece, or foster parent/child, etc. Although not a lot of evidence so far.) It's the Court… it seems to be organized as a cluster of circles, clubs, companies, cliques, coteries, cabals and conspiracies.
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Post by saardvark on Sept 15, 2021 20:39:32 GMT
The glance between Eggs and Parley in the last frame - is he referring to Tony? Tony was/is a fairly high ranking SM, and consorted with various supernatural nasties, with various negative consequences to his general health www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1557Maybe Donny at some point told Eggs how Tony lost his arm?
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Post by Runningflame on Sept 15, 2021 22:22:02 GMT
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Post by speedwell on Sept 15, 2021 22:32:28 GMT
Reinforcing my suspicion that the two of them have some relationship other than both being Shadowmen. (Note: I did not say it's a romantic relationship. I'm thinking more along the lines of uncle and niece, or foster parent/child, etc. Although not a lot of evidence so far.) I was thinking along the lines of guru/chela, to be honest. Once I got away from all the shippers, I realised how fatherly he was being and how Shell, presumably the rookie, might have been embarrassed by having to be saved again, particularly at a heavy cost to her mentor.
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Post by saardvark on Sept 16, 2021 0:03:10 GMT
Did Coyote really say that Loup's attack was Aata's fault? Seems so. James doesn't know about Aata's ethereal power, assuming he's being honest, which it seems he usually is. Parley said at one point that James had never mentioned anything called an Omega Device to her ... but that was a while ago; has he mentioned it since then? Or have they had more general conversations about such things, not mentioning Omega specifically? Does Eggs know about Omega? He probably didn't see Aata's flower power just now, and not being a SM, they probably never told him. Aata is probably keeping it secret from most SM anyway. Before the Loup attack, Aata was almost directly behind Eggs (short shadow in back of panel 2). www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2502When Loup attacked, Eggs jumped immediately to shield Annie, at which point Aata (and Shell behind and to his right) are almost directly opposite to the way Eggs is looking (panel 4) www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2503Aata does his Shadow-Buddha flower arranging on Shell (panels 1-2) and Eggs is still keeping a sharp eye on Loup from behind his shield (panel 5) www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2505still pointed 180 degrees off of Aata. By the time Annie powers up and Eggs gets back to Aata (panel 1) www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2508Shell has stood up and is brushing healing botanicals off herself, tho this is likely shielded from Eggs view by the vastness of Aata himself. So the Eggman maybe never saw a thing!
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Post by maxptc on Sept 16, 2021 0:17:55 GMT
Since the Court is trying to steal Coyetes powers, maybe they have been working at creating and understanding powers themselves as well. Maybe Atta was a normal man, and his powers arent his inheritly but are the result of a failed/successful attempt. His potential expulsion from the program is because by using his powers he risks revealing something he wasn't suppose to, not just to Coyete/Loup but to non Shadow men members of the Court. It would explain why using his powers is a big deal, which has bothered me. Why would Atta using magic be an issue, considering the Court has people trained to use powers openly like James, and he was using them to save another Shadowman. I'll admit I was kinda expecting James to answer with "I dunno he's always just had power over flowers from my understanding. Part druid maybe?"
I guess another answer is that Atta has always had powers. If Atta is older then James and had just stopped using his powers by the time they were introduced, and if talking about stuff like that is just taboo, James might be unaware of something that isn't really a secret but just something that is not brought up.
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 16, 2021 0:27:50 GMT
Reinforcing my suspicion that the two of them have some relationship other than both being Shadowmen. (Note: I did not say it's a romantic relationship. I'm thinking more along the lines of uncle and niece, or foster parent/child, etc. Although not a lot of evidence so far.) I was thinking along the lines of guru/chela, to be honest. Once I got away from all the shippers, I realised how fatherly he was being and how Shell, presumably the rookie, might have been embarrassed by having to be saved again, particularly at a heavy cost to her mentor. Again?
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Post by blazingstar on Sept 16, 2021 2:17:57 GMT
"The shadow men don't meddle with the supernatural at all...usually." Usually?
What instances have we (the readers) seen in which they've meddled in the supernatural? Don't have time to go on a full archive dive right now.
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Post by blahzor on Sept 16, 2021 5:50:07 GMT
Reinforcing my suspicion that the two of them have some relationship other than both being Shadowmen. (Note: I did not say it's a romantic relationship. I'm thinking more along the lines of uncle and niece, or foster parent/child, etc. Although not a lot of evidence so far.) It's the Court… it seems to be organized as a cluster of circles, clubs, companies, cliques, coteries, cabals and conspiracies. they have a coefficient to determine groups and good desk placements
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Post by speedwell on Sept 16, 2021 15:04:45 GMT
I was thinking along the lines of guru/chela, to be honest. Once I got away from all the shippers, I realised how fatherly he was being and how Shell, presumably the rookie, might have been embarrassed by having to be saved again, particularly at a heavy cost to her mentor. Again? Well, it would be a natural part of gaining experience in the role. Even Parley must have gotten into a few scrapes while training with Eglamore, and Shell looks like she might be seven or eight years older. It would be all the more embarrassing if she had been in a similar situation before and thought she'd be on top of things if it ever happened again. Edit: I realised she had to have seen it before to know what it was this time.
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Post by saardvark on Sept 16, 2021 16:17:32 GMT
"The shadow men don't meddle with the supernatural at all...usually." Usually? What instances have we (the readers) seen in which they've meddled in the supernatural? Don't have time to go on a full archive dive right now. Tony did. The whole ether siphon - power plant is arguably meddling in the supernatural (the ether) tho maybe that doesnt count for the SM...
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 16, 2021 17:33:06 GMT
The glance between Eggs and Parley in the last frame - is he referring to Tony? Tony was/is a fairly high ranking SM Wait, where was this?
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Post by saardvark on Sept 17, 2021 4:29:48 GMT
The glance between Eggs and Parley in the last frame - is he referring to Tony? Tony was/is a fairly high ranking SM Wait, where was this? Hmm, I had been assuming that since he has significant influence on them www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1987that he must be one of them, and high ranking at that. Goes along with his deep research on the Omega project (probably related to the ether collection stations that Aata is partly in charge of). Though the documents they send him www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1877do not have the shadow men symbol, but rather the Court symbol (bismuth). And Tony never wears the shadow men insignia either. So maybe Ive been misinterpreting things; wouldn't be the first time! Maybe Tony is a special case, a special researcher directed from the Court hierarchy separate from the SM.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Sept 17, 2021 7:18:03 GMT
"The shadow men don't meddle with the supernatural at all...usually." Usually? What instances have we (the readers) seen in which they've meddled in the supernatural? Don't have time to go on a full archive dive right now. Tony did. The whole ether siphon - power plant is arguably meddling in the supernatural (the ether) tho maybe that doesnt count for the SM... Also, clearly they already tried to trap Coyote a few times before, and if that's not meddling with the supernatural, I don't know what is
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Post by jda on Sept 17, 2021 8:09:56 GMT
Just checking. The update for Sep 17 is late? or is Tom's day off?
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Sept 17, 2021 8:12:23 GMT
Just checking. The update for Sep 17 is late? or is Tom's day off? I've been checking and rechecking for the last hour. No news on his Tweetfeed either. When do we start panicking?
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V
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I just think it's a pity that she never wore these again.
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Post by V on Sept 17, 2021 8:12:41 GMT
Just checking. The update for Sep 17 is late? or is Tom's day off? Observation confirmed; strange indeed. Tom said in an interview that the updates draw automatically from his buffer, that even if a bus ran over him we'd be getting them regularly for the next few weeks. I wonder what went wrong.
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Post by madjack on Sept 17, 2021 8:13:26 GMT
Eh, websites break sometimes.
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