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Post by bedinsis on Aug 20, 2021 7:01:50 GMT
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Post by madjack on Aug 20, 2021 7:02:44 GMT
Time to go, Carver....
You know it's bad when the deranged god hasn't realised he's impaled the roof of his own mouth...
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Post by caber on Aug 20, 2021 7:03:23 GMT
Well, we certainly got to the second boss phase quick. Aaaand of course phase 2 is Lovecraftian.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 20, 2021 7:04:13 GMT
Not sure he's even consciously attacking anyone anymore.
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Post by jda on Aug 20, 2021 7:07:25 GMT
So, THAT's what you meant when said that you would not have any other choice but kill him, bc the deranged god is harming himself, your god friends, the animals, possibly the Court itself with a rain of cube bombs, and is about to disassemble the world.
Like putting an animal out of its misery.
Mhm.
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Post by shinkaii on Aug 20, 2021 7:14:23 GMT
This page unsettles me. It looks like Loup physically fusing with the forest and at the same time everything crumbling apart. Looks like an intro to a boss battle.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Aug 20, 2021 7:30:15 GMT
I don't even know what I'm looking at. This is still physical world, right, we're not peering into the Ether? Or are the two mixing? Annie has a truly pained look, I think she understands WHY she has to kill Loup now.
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Post by mitten on Aug 20, 2021 7:31:52 GMT
I really like the unsettling art on this page. I wonder if Loup is turning himself into something specific, like a road, or maybe a tower?
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 20, 2021 7:37:31 GMT
I am curious where this is going.
I compared the the imagery with a brick-road, and that was because that was where my mind went, but I doubt Loup would reproduce a human construction when in peril unless it ties into his mythical origins.
Looking more at it, it could be that Loup is turning into a tree, hence the long, brown straight thing with branches sticking out of it, but then I don't get where all the cubes and spheres are coming from. Geometric objects mainly exist as abstractions, hence why I thought we were looking at some sort of primordial soup of ideas, and it would tie in to how Loup sat at the center of a series of more and more abstract objects with electric beams symbolizing the control he had over them. And now he no longer is in control, either because the Lake Water memory overwhelmed him or because the shadow men shenanigans disrupted him, and he is not controlling the cubes, the cubes are controlling him. That would tie into Loup's earlier characterization of barely being in control of the situation but pretending to be.
If they are forming a tree then Loup is basically turning into Ysengrin again, the character that walked around with a wood body as an overcoat. And the character Loup looks down on for being weak. For not being in control.
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I welcome counterthoughts to what I wrote above.
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Post by warrl on Aug 20, 2021 7:58:16 GMT
Grated minds think alike... I came to post essentially the same thing... |
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 20, 2021 8:12:45 GMT
Becoming one with nature, huh? So, THAT's what you meant when said that you would not have any other choice but kill him, bc the deranged god is harming himself, your god friends, the animals, possibly the Court itself with a rain of cube bombs, and is about to disassemble the world. Like putting an animal out of its misery. Mhm. I don't even know what I'm looking at. This is still physical world, right, we're not peering into the Ether? Or are the two mixing? Annie has a truly pained look, I think she understands WHY she has to kill Loup now. Maybe SOMEONE has to kill Loup, but right now there's no reason it has to be Annie. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 20, 2021 8:27:50 GMT
I don't even know what I'm looking at. This is still physical world, right, we're not peering into the Ether? Or are the two mixing? Annie has a truly pained look, I think she understands WHY she has to kill Loup now. This is the real world of the Wood/Court (which is closer to the ether than the real real world) but I think what we're seeing is the earth of the forest floor coming up in block-like sections as the mind of "Loup" fights for control over his power which is intricately linked to the Wood. Same basic idea holds for the spheres and other shapes; they're the components of the environment reduced to simpler shapes. It's a (really real) manifestation of the representation of what's happening in another slice of reality, I guess. Maybe SOMEONE has to kill Loup, but right now there's no reason it has to be Annie. Who else would "Loup" allow to walk right up to him and kill him? Making sure that could happen was one of the reasons Coyote's plan took this long. |
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 20, 2021 9:10:28 GMT
Maybe SOMEONE has to kill Loup, but right now there's no reason it has to be Annie. Who else would "Loup" allow to walk right up to him and kill him? Making sure that could happen was one of the reasons Coyote's plan took this long. Why should he allow her to do it? Why does he have to allow it all? Give the Tooth to Parley - who is an experienced swordswoman, by the way, while Annie knows nothing about fighting with a blade - she teleports next to Loup and kills him. That would be my plan for dealing with Loup IF it is decided he has to die. There are a 100 things that can go wrong with letting Annie do it, even IF she would agree. |
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Post by machiavelli33 on Aug 20, 2021 11:23:12 GMT
...its over. The Forest is over - or, at the very least, shall never be the same ever again.
We see what's happening immediately around Loup - I can only imagine what the rest of the Wood looks like, right now. With how badly everything is going to pieces, there's zero chance that anything familiar will remain, even if trees manage to regrow - landmarks, mountains, monuments, villages, all of it. Perhaps if killing Loup "unkills" Coyote, regrowth can be had relatively quickly. Otherwise...
I'm grateful, at least, that the elves were ejected before all this happened. Presuming nothing worse happens to them, they'll be instrumental in the Wood's eventual recovery once this is all over.
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Post by saardvark on Aug 20, 2021 11:43:42 GMT
As Loup falls apart, so does the Forest? Seems like both are breaking up into elemental units, while Loup writhes and stretches up and cries out in existential pain....
I don't think this will happen, but.... what if the Loup cube mountain eventually collapses, and in the wreckage, in the glow of fire-Annie's light, she finds a baby Coyote and Ys, reborn.
(Short circuits Annie having to kill Loup, so its unlikely, but I kinda liked the image...)
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Post by Druplesnubb on Aug 20, 2021 12:01:35 GMT
I see Loup has gotten interested in cubism now. Grated minds think alike... I came to post essentially the same thing... I don't even wanna know what a grated mind looks like. |
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Post by ohthatone on Aug 20, 2021 12:06:05 GMT
As Loup falls apart, so does the Forest? Seems like both are breaking up into elemental units, while Loup writhes and stretches up and cries out in existential pain.... I don't think this will happen, but.... what if the Loup cube mountain eventually collapses, and in the wreckage, in the glow of fire-Annie's light, she finds a baby Coyote and Ys, reborn. Then we would have to have bonus pages of puppy coyote and puppy ysengrin with puppy renard. |
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Post by ohthatone on Aug 20, 2021 12:14:26 GMT
Loup does appear to be trying to turn himself into something. It looks like he is trying to become a path? Maybe a wall.
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Post by madjack on Aug 20, 2021 12:19:04 GMT
Loup does appear to be trying to turn himself into something. It looks like he is trying to become a path? Maybe a wall. A... Loop? |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Aug 20, 2021 13:09:12 GMT
Loup does appear to be trying to turn himself into something. It looks like he is trying to become a path? Maybe a wall. I think he's trying to turn into the Forest? Or even just absorbing all the energy of the Forest? I'm really curious about where Tom is going with this. |
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Post by DonDueed on Aug 20, 2021 13:30:10 GMT
I don't think this will happen, but.... what if the Loup cube mountain eventually collapses, and in the wreckage, in the glow of fire-Annie's light, she finds a baby Coyote and Ys, reborn. I am Groot. |
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Post by philman on Aug 20, 2021 13:34:01 GMT
Is, is Loup the seed Bismuth? Or becoming the seed of Something Else?
Also those balls surrounding Loup, previously those white balls we saw were memories, these ones are different colours though, blue, red, green etc. Corrupted memories? Madness memories?
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Post by DonDueed on Aug 20, 2021 13:42:48 GMT
The blocky stuff reminds me of Saslamel, somehow.
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 20, 2021 14:49:06 GMT
Have you ever been so angry that you broke apart into geometric shapes?
We didn't see Aata run away(I assumed Tom didn't draw it because it would be too funny). Maybe, this is the Suit-Buddha attacking. This seems awfully geometric for Loup, even in this chaotic soup.
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Post by bicarbonat on Aug 20, 2021 15:00:10 GMT
Tom's coming in with that Akira (sur)realness
Now, let's see if Loup gets a second (if extremely altered) life like Tetsuo did. It would certainly fit the established logic of the world, which is basically that nothing essential is truly created or destroyed - only occasionally hidden from reach.
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Post by warrl on Aug 20, 2021 15:03:17 GMT
Give the Tooth to Parley - who is an experienced swordswoman, by the way, while Annie knows nothing about fighting with a blade We haven't seen Annie get any sword training - but we know she has an effective amount of martial-arts training (we caught a brief glimpse of one session, and she's used it effectively on at least two occasions), and we know she asked Eglamore about sword training (the page after she got the Tooth). So it seems a stretch to assume she has no sword training. |
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Post by wombat on Aug 20, 2021 15:41:02 GMT
Between Annie being in fire elemental mode and Tom's comments underneath the pages, I'm reminded of lyrics from a song that I don't even like:
It is, admittedly, kind of fun to imagine this playing in the background.
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Post by mturtle7 on Aug 20, 2021 16:44:47 GMT
Helpful ink to the last time we saw the Forest floating around Loup in various geometric shapes. It appears that before, it was his way of...imposing a semblance of control over the Forest? Or was it the opposite, a sign of his lack of control, and the only progress he made was making the only floating shapes be the ones nearby him?
I'm not sure about this, but I think the shapes could be interpreted as the fundamental building blocks which now make up the Forest, thanks to Coyote's system of branches. The Forest was degenerating into them before, and recently Loup managed to gain control over the blocks, but still couldn't fully reintegrate them together, despite putting all of his Ysengrin-born concentration into the matter. Now, he's throwing an angry fit, but part of him is still trying to concentrate on the Forest, so he's gotten it all mixed up whether he's the Forest or Loup..and meanwhile, the actual control he exerted over the Forest is literally breaking down, as everything degenerates even worse than it had before.
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 20, 2021 16:44:55 GMT
Well, at least not everyone warm-blooded for kilometers around. This time. Any bets on who did this? Coyote, Loup, Aata? |
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Post by basser on Aug 20, 2021 16:55:47 GMT
Renard, meanwhile, presumably still able to see all this through their familiar link, has decided he'd rather not get involved and gone off with Tony to watch clouds.
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