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Post by philman on May 26, 2021 7:01:39 GMT
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I just think it's a pity that she never wore these again.
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Post by V on May 26, 2021 7:02:22 GMT
This place looks different than the rest of the Court... kind of royal?
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Post by philman on May 26, 2021 7:03:33 GMT
This place looks different than the rest of the Court... kind of royal? Don't know about royal, just looks like typical Edwardian architecture, but it does look older and more fancy than the rest of the places we've seen so is probably the heart of the Court, where the senior members are.
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I just think it's a pity that she never wore these again.
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Post by V on May 26, 2021 7:05:43 GMT
Also! Did the lack of report prevent Aata from going on with whatever agenda he had? (Maybe it's time to proceed with the lake water!)
Or is it Jones that was temporarily busy with a side mission and can now continue whatever sinister plan she was up to before?!
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Post by flowsthead on May 26, 2021 7:07:46 GMT
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Post by madjack on May 26, 2021 7:09:07 GMT
This place looks different than the rest of the Court... kind of royal? Don't know about royal, just looks like typical Edwardian architecture, but it does look older and more fancy than the rest of the places we've seen so is probably the heart of the Court, where the senior members are. Might be the first shot we have of Central Admin. I first thought it was the Shadow Men's building where we saw Juliet and Arthur work but it doesn't match.
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Post by philman on May 26, 2021 7:09:07 GMT
Also! Did the lack of report prevent Aata from going on with whatever agenda he had? (Maybe it's time to proceed with the lake water!) Or is it Jones that was temporarily busy with a side mission and can now continue whatever sinister plan she was up to before?! I think whatever they are planning revolves around Annie somehow, so after she unexpectedly recombined they needed to somehow check she was still all there and stable before continuing with whatever nefariousness they are planning. Still, I assume this means that next chapter we finally discover the Omega device? Hmm
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 26, 2021 7:09:38 GMT
I'm sure Antimony has completely forgotten or gotten over that by now.
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Post by aline on May 26, 2021 7:11:02 GMT
In the chapter before the Annies reunited, we a had a build up toward the omega device, something that seemed linked to Zimmy. Looks like Annie interrupted something.
It feels like we're heading into the final act.
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Post by laaaa on May 26, 2021 7:11:26 GMT
That's not at all ominous.
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Post by madjack on May 26, 2021 7:11:56 GMT
Also! Did the lack of report prevent Aata from going on with whatever agenda he had? (Maybe it's time to proceed with the lake water!) Or is it Jones that was temporarily busy with a side mission and can now continue whatever sinister plan she was up to before?! I think whatever they are planning revolves around Annie somehow, so after she unexpectedly recombined they needed to somehow check she was still all there and stable before continuing with whatever nefariousness they are planning. Still, I assume this means that next chapter we finally discover the Omega device? Hmm I think V has it, it's an "Is she fit to participate in our upcoming lake water operation" thing.
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Post by maxptc on May 26, 2021 7:12:49 GMT
"Now that we know she loves her Dad, we can continue with our plans."
I seriously don't see how what Jones learnt today helps the shadow men. Are they worried about her mental state because of the upcoming meeting or the situation with her being one person again? Both? I assumed they wanted to know what the heck was going with the split, not just a mental health check. Seems kinda out of character for the Court, but I'm probably missing something due to the weekly format.
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Post by shadow3 on May 26, 2021 7:19:58 GMT
THE OMEGA PROJECT BECKONS...
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Post by laaaa on May 26, 2021 7:20:12 GMT
"Now that we know she loves her Dad, we can continue with our plans." I seriously don't see how what Jones learnt today helps the shadow men. Are they worried about her mental state because of the upcoming meeting or the situation with her being one person again? Both? I assumed they wanted to know what the heck was going with the split, not just a mental health check. Seems kinda out of character for the Court, but I'm probably missing something due to the weekly format. Well, is she is to resume her role as a mediator between Forest and Court, it's rather important for her not to start giggling hysterically in the middle of negotiations or start shooting people with lasers out of the blue (which to be honest, wouldn't be too far-fetched if her recombination had gone awry) And that's the best case scenario of the Court's nefarious plans.
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Post by aline on May 26, 2021 7:24:33 GMT
"Now that we know she loves her Dad, we can continue with our plans." They wanted to know if her mental state was stable. I doubt they give a flying f*** whether that involves loving her father or not. The chapter revovled around Annie's relationship with Tony because everyone mentioned it to Jones as the most likely thing to affect her mental health. Jones didn't start out asking explicitely about that.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 26, 2021 7:25:36 GMT
Antimony being mentally unstable would be bad for pretty much any use but especially as a negotiator with the Wood, as laaaa observed. Might be bad if her opening statement in the negotiations with "Loup" could be, "Haha, you don't have the stones to blow up the entire Court and you probably aren't strong enough to do it anyway."
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Post by bicarbonat on May 26, 2021 7:33:39 GMT
Ahh, Aata. That "Terminator-esque ethic juxtaposed with a perpetually serene mien" thing makes my skin itch. He could be the Enlightened One or Jolly flippin' Elfsberry, for all I care. That is someone who does not seem to be attached to the little guys in life.
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Post by laaaa on May 26, 2021 7:34:17 GMT
Antimony being mentally unstable would be bad for pretty much any use but especially as a negotiator with the Wood, as laaaa observed. Might be bad if her opening statement in the negotiations with "Loup" could be, "Haha, you don't have the stones to blow up the entire Court and you probably aren't strong enough to do it anyway." Wow, now I'm crossing my fingers for her to say exactly that, it's just so insane hahaha!!!!!!!
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Post by maxptc on May 26, 2021 7:36:39 GMT
"Now that we know she loves her Dad, we can continue with our plans." They wanted to know if her mental state was stable. I doubt they give a flying f*** whether that involves loving her father or not. The chapter revovled around Annie's relationship with Tony because everyone mentioned it to Jones as the most likely thing to affect her mental health. Jones didn't start out asking explicitely about that. Right, but did that qualify as a overall mental health check and a specific one in regards to the two Annies becoming one? Like, I get Jones followed the thread that everyone thought was the main issue, Tony, but I feel like the potential ramifications of recombination were written off based on Annie saying she's fine and everyone else saying Tony is a bigger issue, and then her talking about the Tony issue. Are we sure about that fine level, at least in a clear and present danger sense? Even if we are, that was enough to convince the Court's? Is the Court really cool not knowing any details of the recombination? Like from what I can see, they know less then us, and it was pretty ambiguous on our end. I mean its good that she's not unbalanced because of her Dad, but that being enough for the Court seems a little....lax might be the word I want?
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Post by blahzor on May 26, 2021 7:50:45 GMT
Back to the experiments. Double the efforts to make up for lost time
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Post by aline on May 26, 2021 8:03:56 GMT
Right, but did that qualify as a overall mental health check and a specific one in regards to the two Annies becoming one? Like, I get Jones followed the thread that everyone thought was the main issue, Tony, but I feel like the potential ramifications of recombination were written off based on Annie saying she's fine and everyone else saying Tony is a bigger issue, and then her talking about the Tony issue. Are we sure about that fine level, at least in a clear and present danger sense? Even if we are, that was enough to convince the Court's? Is the Court really cool not knowing any details of the recombination? Like from what I can see, they know less then us, and it was pretty ambiguous on our end. I mean its good that she's not unbalanced because of her Dad, but that being enough for the Court seems a little....lax might be the word I want? Lax compared to what? If anything it's very unusual for them to be concerned about how anybody is feeling about anything. If they are worried about Annie it's probably because they fear she might blow up and interfere with whatever they are about to do next, whatever it is. I mean to be fair she is the interfering kind of person. And I haven't forgotten that they were the one who collected Tony from the brink of death in the desert just because they wanted Annie under control. Her behavior checks out. The Court hasn't showed any interest in the details of her split beyond "Oh God more etherical shenanigans, is that a trick that will blow in our faces yes/no." So I don't see why they should have any curiosity in her recombination beyond "well yet more shenanigans, new assessment about likeliness to blow up in our faces needed." They trust Jones about that I suppose (she has seen a lot, so it makes sense).
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Post by Corvo on May 26, 2021 8:15:14 GMT
I'm guessing this is about the Lake Water?
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Post by TBeholder on May 26, 2021 8:39:46 GMT
I'm sure Antimony has completely forgotten or gotten over that by now. And if she didn't, it's not like there are any obvious ways to make anyone sweat over this.
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I just think it's a pity that she never wore these again.
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Post by V on May 26, 2021 10:11:52 GMT
Oh, and I don't know about you all but I don't like this man.
Also, have I mentioned I don't like him? Nevermind, I'll say it now. I don't like him. I don't trust people hiding behind a smile all the time.
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Post by ohthatone on May 26, 2021 10:49:51 GMT
Omigoo I get a cookie! I dont know how to quote myself from other threads on a mobile, darnit. So. She is reporting to aata who, if he isn't the head of the shadow men, is very high ranking. They have been painted as very sketchy in an organization that is already very sketchy. Are they the ones actually running things? Is llanwellyn just a sleepy figurehead? I am curious why Jones is willing to help them.
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Post by pyradonis on May 26, 2021 11:09:20 GMT
These doors with the square windows(?) look strange to me... At first I thought they were like the doors seen in the building where Arthur and Juliette work, but it turns out those doors had strange round windows. Also! Did the lack of report prevent Aata from going on with whatever agenda he had? (Maybe it's time to proceed with the lake water!) Or is it Jones that was temporarily busy with a side mission and can now continue whatever sinister plan she was up to before?! I'll just repeat my thoughts: That there is pretty much why I keep poking at the core question of why Jones is tasked with looking into Annie's mental state - I don't think that's really what she is meant to be doing. I suspect she was sent to do that on the theory that she'd uncover what really happened with the recombination (or whatever it really is). So that sounds right. Perhaps the people behind the curtain thought they'd get better results asking Jones to evaluate Annie's mental state than by asking Jones to spy on Annie.
This has to be puzzling to the Court people responsible for monitoring things - normally big events involving Annie happen after she goes to the forest, but this one did not. Not knowing what really happened has got to be really bugging them. I have to assume that their surveillance cannot see what happens inside Zimmy's mind realm. You're certainly right in that the Court higher-ups must want to know what exactly happened. Depending on how you look at it, one of their citizens vanished. Maybe the Annie that came from the Forest was a spy after all? And if that "recombination" story is a lie and one of the Annies left or was taken away, their security was breached, another thing to be possibly concerned about. But I think even if they actually believe that the two Annies are now one, they have an interest in her mental state. They are going to give Loup the Lake Water, and they have to decide whether they will take Annie with them. On one hand, if she is not there, Loup might react very negatively. Coyote pushed over a building when Annie was not allowed to sse him any more. On the other hand, Loup flipped out last time Annie(s) talked to him, and the Court will equally want to prevent a mentally unstable Annie to meet with Loup and say the wrong thing to him...
Omigoo I get a cookie! I dont know how to quote myself from other threads on a mobile, darnit. So. She is reporting to aata who, if he isn't the head of the shadow men, is very high ranking. They have been painted as very sketchy in an organization that is already very sketchy. Are they the ones actually running things? Is llanwellyn just a sleepy figurehead? I am curious why Jones is willing to help them. Well, she has been seen working with them before, like when they hunted Jack.
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Post by speedwell on May 26, 2021 11:14:16 GMT
Given the (personally I believe high) likelihood that Annie hasn't been completely forthcoming and has perhaps been purposely misleading, there are a hell of a lot more variables out there than we think.
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Post by Polyhymnia on May 26, 2021 11:48:31 GMT
Yesssss! A twist! I’m glad it wasn’t what I had in mind—I was a little concerned someone would weaponize her devotion to Tony and use him as a bargaining chip like they used her for him. I suspect this is just lakewater &/or omega project Tom foolery.
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Post by faiiry on May 26, 2021 11:54:09 GMT
I know her dad’s presence in her life is the thing most likely to affect her mental health *right now*, but I do think Annie has serious lingering trauma related to her mom’s death that probably would do well to be addressed by a professional? Maybe that’s been fixed entirely by the recombination in Find Yourself, but I dunno.
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Post by todd on May 26, 2021 12:46:54 GMT
Remember in "Neither" when Ysengrin's essence, coming briefly to Loup's surface, said that the Court had plans to take Annie far away somewhere? I wonder if this scene is leading into it.
Jones working for these guys is a bit unsettling; she'd always shown a strong moral tone. But we don't know everything about the situation yet.
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