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Post by Yin on Sept 26, 2008 7:01:07 GMT
Ah. We get an explanation for Gamma's action and reaction then. Way cool, Tom!
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Post by fcd on Sept 26, 2008 7:10:31 GMT
So, does this mean Gamma occasionaly sees real people as the Faceless Things, like Zimmy does?
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Post by eightyfour on Sept 26, 2008 7:14:14 GMT
I wonder if this hints at what was going on in 453, when Gamma put her hand on the boy's face. [...] maybe touching a nobody makes them disappear... A cookie for mike!  I wonder why exactly Zimmy is so extremely freaked out by them. What would they do to her if no-one makes them go away? Granted, they look scary enough, but if that was all I'd figure one could get used to them eventually. |
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Post by mudmaniac on Sept 26, 2008 7:29:13 GMT
I woulda expected "Bampf" as the standard "Disappear!! "onomatopoeia.
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Post by agasa on Sept 26, 2008 7:36:55 GMT
I think it's more of a liquid explosion, hence the *GOP*...bleah.
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Post by kaziklu on Sept 26, 2008 10:49:07 GMT
These things may be dangerous only to Zimmy. That's the impression I get so far. However, I'm most likely wrong and Tom will surprise me once again.
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Post by Count Casimir on Sept 26, 2008 10:56:15 GMT
Annie's face as she "GOP'd" the specter was priceless.
And it is indeed QUITE nice to have all this light shed on the mystery of dear Zeta. So Gamma is constantly zapping these things? No wonder she gets tired.
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Post by agasa on Sept 26, 2008 11:35:03 GMT
anyone thinks the Nobody has an angry face when he turns towards Annie?
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Post by Mezzaphor on Sept 26, 2008 11:39:16 GMT
I didn't know Tom was interested in US politics.
<rimshot>
I wonder if this Nobody-dispersal is something that anyone could do, or something that anyone besides Zimmy could do, or something that only mentalists like Annie or Gamma could do.
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Post by mike on Sept 26, 2008 12:06:46 GMT
I wonder if this hints at what was going on in 453, when Gamma put her hand on the boy's face. [...] maybe touching a nobody makes them disappear... A cookie for mike! Yay! <claps> Although I wasn't expecting the nobodies to... um... explode. D: Like agasa mentioned, the nobody seemed angry when Annie touched him. If the girls don't interact with the nobodies, would the nobodies be aware of their presence? Maybe the nobodies are a metaphor for the way some people interact with kids-- ignore them, then get mad when forced to deal with them. Actually, maybe they're a metaphor for how some people deal with just about ANY interruption... Although... Zimmy's reaction is pretty severe. Maybe the consequences of them becoming aware of her presence are dire. |
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Post by cenit on Sept 26, 2008 13:04:51 GMT
for some reason, that thing that Z said about real people with no faces, makes me feel so sad  |
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Post by nikita on Sept 26, 2008 13:44:46 GMT
I wonder if Zimmy is some kind of mix of the two worlds.. she has the same black stuff in her face, except it's restricted to her eyes.
If so, maybe she starts seeing the parallel world more often the more she looks like the nobodies. When things get worse.. like when the black stuff isn't washed away by the rain, the probability of actually falling into the parallel world increases.
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Post by agasa on Sept 26, 2008 15:13:53 GMT
I think the "So? sometimes real people don't neither." is metaphorical (except when the experiment "messes with her head", maybe), also seeing Tom comment: "It's just how some people look to her".
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Post by Grey on Sept 26, 2008 15:19:21 GMT
Shadow world, Realm of nightmares. Place where every bad things from this world finally arrive. Hatred, fear, violence and many other things. Maybe that place is one layers of.. Hell! Like somebody know, Reynardine calls Zimmy demon many pages ago. Maybe she is, at least half demon. Yep, not every demons are those red skinned horned things within muscles, but something.. worser and nastier. Of course, those also can be spirit of dead peoples. Bad dead peoples whose are doomed for eternal suffering. Anyway, that place is still.. evil..
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Post by exdevlin on Sept 26, 2008 16:57:28 GMT
I think the "So? sometimes real people don't neither." is metaphorical (except when the experiment "messes with her head", maybe), also seeing Tom comment: "It's just how some people look to her". Still, I can't help but think that there was a barb at real life in what she said, even if she means it literally. Meaning it literally is probably why Gamma was touching the guy's face though, since he's relatively new to Zimmy's world, and she wanted to make sure he was real. Though, Zimmy was surprised at Gamma touching him, so it looks like Zimmy doesn't ASK Gamma to make sure people are real.. she just relies on Gamma's guidance to help her differentiate between real people and nobodies. And I agree with nikita's theory on why Zimmy's got black stuff on her eyes.. |
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Post by jokerjester on Sept 26, 2008 18:59:32 GMT
Ha ha, I was totally expecting BAMPF as the disappear sound also.
I was surprised by the nobody spinning around when Annie touched it. For some reason, I wasn't expecting the nobody to show a reaction.
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Post by mithrandir on Sept 26, 2008 19:44:13 GMT
Zimmy obviously has some kind of connection to Them - the darkness around her own eyes seems extremely similar to Their faceless faces, and it faded away in response to the rainstorm several episodes back.
We're wondering why Zimmy's so afraid of Them. I suspect she's afraid of being turned into one of Them. The more contact she has, the more they... make her one of their own, whatever that means. Draining away her humanity, perhaps?
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Post by Mezzaphor on Sept 26, 2008 21:35:15 GMT
This does answer one of the questions I've had for a while: Apparently Zimmy's visions are visible to people besides her. At least they are to Gamma, hence why she thought Matt was a Nobody.
I like the quarter-profiles of Annie and Zimmy in panels 1 and 8.
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Post by monkeysmurklins on Sept 26, 2008 23:36:29 GMT
Perhaps if Kat sees Zimmy all scared like she is now, she'll feel sorry for Zimmy and not dislike her so much. I wonder what Kat and the rest are up to right now. Causin' all sorts of trouble with the nobodies, no doubt.
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Post by fuzzyone on Sept 27, 2008 0:58:04 GMT
This also somewhat implies that Gamma is also affected by Zimmy's perception of the world. Else, she'd be able to tell Human from Nobody, and not see people without their faces. This, to me, adds credence to the suspicion that it isn't Gamma that has the telepathic ability, but Zimmy. Gamma's talents are likely somewhat Medium in nature... Perhaps an ESP of some sort that allows her to perceive Zimmy's alternate reality mosntrosities. And by perceiving them, can interact with them, hence the *gop*
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Post by chibisoma on Sept 27, 2008 5:31:31 GMT
See, what I wanna know...
Would Zimmy be all adorable like she was when the rain occurred that first time ALL the time if she didn't have that gunk in her eyes? If she wasn't being constantly hounded by these visions of Nobodies, how would she act? The same? Different?
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Post by nikita on Sept 27, 2008 11:38:45 GMT
This, to me, adds credence to the suspicion that it isn't Gamma that has the telepathic ability, but Zimmy We have already seen Gamma talking to Zimmy via telepathy twice. In Sunny Birmingham and the bonus page "Spiders". |
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Post by starburst98 on Sept 28, 2008 12:21:11 GMT
wait a tick, i just noticed the nobodies also have black smoke rising from their heads, didn't really notice on the last page cause it looked like shading, but now it is obvious. that could also mean something, as zimmy had white smoke come off of her head when she got rained on.
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Post by Tenjen on Sept 28, 2008 16:47:10 GMT
you might have something going on there.
These black sharp "smoke" things might be the visual representation of stuff that is the antithesis of the white wisps that connect gamma and zeta
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Post by penguinfactory on Sept 28, 2008 18:02:42 GMT
I wonder if Zimmy is going to connect somehow to the "main" arc of the story (Annie's parents/reynardine's past etc). Not that I'd mind if she doesn't- as side stories go, Zimmy is pretty damn cool.
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Post by kaziklu on Sept 28, 2008 18:39:11 GMT
Agree. Actually I find all the characters great in their own way.
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Post by todd on Sept 28, 2008 22:37:21 GMT
I wonder if Zimmy is going to connect somehow to the "main" arc of the story (Annie's parents/reynardine's past etc). Not that I'd mind if she doesn't- as side stories go, Zimmy is pretty damn cool. I have the impression that Zimmy and Gamma are part of an initially separate story that has entered Gunnerkrigg's sphere in the way that a comet might pass through the solar system for a time. We know that Tom came up with them before he came up with "Gunnerkrigg Court", and has even talked about doing a separate strip starring them, called "Alphabet Soup". I can think of two possible analogies (though I don't know how accurate they are). One is the story of Tristram and Iseult. It was originally independent of the Arthurian cycle, but eventually drawn into it, so that Tristram becomes a knight of the Round Table, for example. The other is Tom Bombadil, whom Tolkien came up with some years before starting to write "The Lord of the Rings", and inserted in his work when he was desperately looking for adventures for Frodo to have on his way to Rivendell. Only Tom can answer this for certain, but I suspect that Zimmy and Gamma's presence in "Gunnerkrigg Court" is mainly that Tom wants to write about them, but doesn't have time to do two webcomics at once, and so decided to give them a "guest-star" status in "Gunnerkrigg Court". I think that their story will intersect with Gunnerkrigg and Annie's at times, but is largely independent of them (and centered more on the town where Zimmy and Gamma first met rather than on Gunnerkrigg and its environs). |
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Post by King Mir on Sept 30, 2008 0:29:45 GMT
I thought initially that Zeta's and Gamma's story would be separate from Anny's, but this is the third story that features them, making it one of the larger through threads. I agree that Their back story is separate from the court's history, but I feel they will play a big roll in Anny's story.
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