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Post by storyteller on Feb 17, 2021 8:24:15 GMT
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Post by wies on Feb 17, 2021 8:25:43 GMT
So, things are starting to come together, it seems. Loup (and probably Coyote before him) notices the Court is up to something, and it involves Zimmy and Gamma.
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Post by jda on Feb 17, 2021 8:29:00 GMT
This is getting too dark.
Love it.
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Post by Eversist on Feb 17, 2021 8:31:33 GMT
This so-called Omega Device???
I'm getting goofy. Time for bed.
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Post by Corvo on Feb 17, 2021 8:41:16 GMT
In today's news, Renard looks beautiful and Zimmy looks terrifying. Oh, and something about the Court, but that's probably not important.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 17, 2021 9:06:39 GMT
Dialogue doesn't dovetail well with the previous page. #2429 ZETA: "I know they're up to something but I can't see it." RENARD: "What's all this about the Court? Antimony said you felt they were finished with you." #2430 ZETA: "We thought so too, yeah. But now they made some kinda machine." ^Reminds me of mistakes I've made when of two minds on which way a particular sentence should go and/or get distracted and forget what exactly I previously wrote. Would flow better if Renard's last line in #2429 was "What's all this about the Court? Antimony said they were finished with you" or if Zeta's first line in #2430 was "We thought that, yeah. But now they made some kinda machine." There's many possible variations but those two should fit the word bubbles.
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Post by basser on Feb 17, 2021 10:14:48 GMT
Yo she's talking about a machine what ain't a machine that can see into the unseen world, which she is explaining to an invisible fox spirit floating in a metadimensional void she oops'd them all into with her powers, and the visual representation of the machine is coming out her eyeball. (Incidentally robo-goddess Kat also has wires and stuff coming out her eyeballs.) And at least one faction of court robots know exactly how to trigger Zimmy's powers, have a solid idea of what will happen when they do, and either had direct access to or were able to quickly build machines designed for such a purpose.
Prob just a coincidence.
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Post by saardvark on Feb 17, 2021 11:07:56 GMT
This is getting too dark. Love it. try the new Zim Grim comic if you like dark. the Lovecraftian days and nights of life as Zimmy... (pre-Gamma, anyway)
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Post by fia on Feb 17, 2021 14:30:23 GMT
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Post by dramastix on Feb 17, 2021 15:22:46 GMT
Is anyone else getting strong His Dark Materials vibes from this? Reminds me of the Magisterium and their efforts to control Dust. This page more than others, probably because of the machine (presumably the Omega Device, as others have suggested).
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Post by Bo No Bo on Feb 17, 2021 16:13:24 GMT
Yo she's talking about a machine what ain't a machine that can see into the unseen world, which she is explaining to an invisible fox spirit floating in a metadimensional void she oops'd them all into with her powers, and the visual representation of the machine is coming out her eyeball. (Incidentally robo-goddess Kat also has wires and stuff coming out her eyeballs.) And at least one faction of court robots know exactly how to trigger Zimmy's powers, have a solid idea of what will happen when they do, and either had direct access to or were able to quickly build machines designed for such a purpose. Prob just a coincidence. Gunnerkrigg Court itself, to Kat: "Creator Kat. You will make me flesh."
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 17, 2021 16:30:04 GMT
Wait. When did Eglamore go to the Forest?
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Post by mturtle7 on Feb 17, 2021 19:01:20 GMT
Wait. When did Eglamore go to the Forest? Took me like an entire minute before I realized you were joking.
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Post by Gemminie on Feb 18, 2021 1:32:07 GMT
I don't think that thing's what they're talking about. I think Kat's thing was meant to do exactly what she said. But it didn't work, because it came into conflict with Diego's thing, which was more powerful, so Kat got sucked into where Annie was too. But that arrow sucked in more than it bargained for, because Kat went all machine goddess, picked its lock, and cleaned its clock. But does that mean Kat's the Omega Device? Or Kat's device is the Omega Device? Or (and this is what I think) is Kat just something that nobody had ever expected to happen? Like Paul Atreides was never the Kwisatz Haderach; he was something unexpected.
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Post by mu695 on Feb 18, 2021 12:59:43 GMT
Are we missing a page? This is "Chapter 79: Page 34" and 2429 was "Chapter 79: Page 32".
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Post by todd on Feb 19, 2021 0:01:11 GMT
Is anyone else getting strong His Dark Materials vibes from this? Reminds me of the Magisterium and their efforts to control Dust. This page more than others, probably because of the machine (presumably the Omega Device, as others have suggested). I haven't read "His Dark Materials", but I've heard enough about it to see the similarity. (I've often felt reminded, when reading about the Court's schemes, of N.I.C.E. in "That Hideous Strength" - though with the difference that the Court really is a scientific organization, and will apparently have a less dark fate.)
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Post by Corvo on Feb 19, 2021 0:15:11 GMT
Are we missing a page? This is "Chapter 79: Page 34" and 2429 was "Chapter 79: Page 32". Good eye! Tom will probably fix the number at some point. Thankfully this time it doesn't affect the urls.
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 19, 2021 12:49:44 GMT
Are we missing a page? This is "Chapter 79: Page 34" and 2429 was "Chapter 79: Page 32". Good eye! Tom will probably fix the number at some point. Thankfully this time it doesn't affect the urls. Well, the newest page now is also number 34.
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Post by speedwell on Feb 22, 2021 9:33:49 GMT
Is anyone else getting strong His Dark Materials vibes from this? Reminds me of the Magisterium and their efforts to control Dust. This page more than others, probably because of the machine (presumably the Omega Device, as others have suggested). No, actually, not at all, because to the best of my understanding the Court is not an allegory for the Church. The N.I.C.E. is a perfect match for "man's effort to become god", but the N.I.C.E. is very stupid and inept about its control of the Logres and falls into being controlled by the demonic, where the Court is smart about working with the Forest and there does not seem to be what I'd call "dark forces" other than human-scale evil actuating them, and that only as an exception.
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Post by todd on Feb 22, 2021 12:49:28 GMT
]No, actually, not at all, because to the best of my understanding the Court is not an allegory for the Church. The N.I.C.E. is a perfect match for "man's effort to become god", but the N.I.C.E. is very stupid and inept about its control of the Logres and falls into being controlled by the demonic, where the Court is smart about working with the Forest and there does not seem to be what I'd call "dark forces" other than human-scale evil actuating them, and that only as an exception. I thought there were a few resemblances, in the form of both organizations being extremely nebulous and willing to abandon morality to get what they wanted. But I agree with you on the differences; N.I.C.E. is about power (it only pretends to be a scientific organization to dupe the public into supporting it, and even its scientific veneer was more about "social engineering" than science), while the Court genuinely wants to learn - but doesn't seem to be aware of the side-effects of its investigations and experiments (or is so driven by its curiosity that it chooses to ignore those side-effects). Which could make it more dangerous than N.I.C.E.'s comparatively pantomime villainy....
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Post by blahzor on Feb 22, 2021 18:11:56 GMT
Good eye! Tom will probably fix the number at some point. Thankfully this time it doesn't affect the urls. Well, the newest page now is also number 34. Is this some weird book thing he's doing because the Monday page is 35. Like the 2 34's would be one page or something
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Post by dramastix on Feb 24, 2021 18:26:02 GMT
Is anyone else getting strong His Dark Materials vibes from this? Reminds me of the Magisterium and their efforts to control Dust. This page more than others, probably because of the machine (presumably the Omega Device, as others have suggested). No, actually, not at all, because to the best of my understanding the Court is not an allegory for the Church. The N.I.C.E. is a perfect match for "man's effort to become god", but the N.I.C.E. is very stupid and inept about its control of the Logres and falls into being controlled by the demonic, where the Court is smart about working with the Forest and there does not seem to be what I'd call "dark forces" other than human-scale evil actuating them, and that only as an exception. That's fair - you're right, Tom does not appear to be making a Church allegory here. I haven't read the Space Trilogy so I can't speak to that, but I was thinking more of the Court's attempts to gain power through etheric means that it may or may not fully understand, and over which it appears to think it has more power than it does.
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Post by todd on Feb 24, 2021 23:48:48 GMT
That's fair - you're right, Tom does not appear to be making a Church allegory here. I haven't read the Space Trilogy so I can't speak to that, but I was thinking more of the Court's attempts to gain power through etheric means that it may or may not fully understand, and over which it appears to think it has more power than it does. Sounds accurate (I haven't read "His Dark Materials" and know it only through reputation, mind), though I don't think that the Court is actually seeking power. The impression I've had is that it wants to study the ether, and that its main goal is to be able to explain it scientifically. I doubt the Court has thought past that (and I'm almost certain that it doesn't realize that its studies are having side effects on the Forest or Zimmy).
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