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Post by philman on Jan 18, 2021 8:28:59 GMT
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Post by madjack on Jan 18, 2021 8:45:46 GMT
It's nice to see Gamma have a little exposition and agency of her own, even if it does revolve around Zimmy as usual.
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 18, 2021 8:48:35 GMT
So they are all parts of Annie and Zimmy? Also the ones who look like Annie, or are they only Annie? Headache incoming...
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Post by migrantworker on Jan 18, 2021 9:34:20 GMT
Gamma is very relaxed about the whole thing. Almost to the point of... not caring? Or perhaps she's very confident that things will sort themselves out.
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Post by chrisjenl on Jan 18, 2021 11:15:30 GMT
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jan 18, 2021 11:33:56 GMT
Identity confusion, I was prepared for. Gamma smirking is something I was not prepared for
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Post by wies on Jan 18, 2021 12:43:27 GMT
Well, this throws more fuel on the Annie=Zimmy theory.
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Post by ohthatone on Jan 18, 2021 13:10:35 GMT
So where are gamma and rey? (Gamma ray??? Hmmmmm) We are seeing ether-Rey so where are they physically? Unless gamma is going to say rey is under that tree in the forest and plushie rey was just a part of annie this whole time and that's how rey "finds himself"
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Post by aline on Jan 18, 2021 13:17:30 GMT
Gamma is very relaxed about the whole thing. Almost to the point of... not caring? Or perhaps she's very confident that things will sort themselves out. Or rather, like to her it's just another Tuesday. And it probably is. This girl's life is... a lot. It's possible this time is different / worse than most and Gamma can't tell, we don't know how much she perceives when Zimmy's having a "moment". But as far as she's concerned, it seems this event is pretty much the same as every other time Zimmy distorted the space-time continuum. I love how she refers to the reality-distortion thing as "Zimmy being dramatic" XD
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Post by madjack on Jan 18, 2021 13:20:49 GMT
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Post by speedwell on Jan 18, 2021 14:20:43 GMT
Gamma is very relaxed about the whole thing. Almost to the point of... not caring? Or perhaps she's very confident that things will sort themselves out. Or rather, like to her it's just another Tuesday. And it probably is. This girl's life is... a lot. It's possible this time is different / worse than most and Gamma can't tell, we don't know how much she perceives when Zimmy's having a "moment". But as far as she's concerned, it seems this event is pretty much the same as every other time Zimmy distorted the space-time continuum. I love how she refers to the reality-distortion thing as "Zimmy being dramatic" XD I also take back what I said about her speech being that of a seven-or-eight-year-old child. In this particular page she shows much more development, both emotionally and intellectually. I suppose it is more correct to say that she talks to Zimmy as if Zimmy is a seven-or-eight-year-old child.
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Post by saardvark on Jan 18, 2021 14:31:52 GMT
So where are gamma and rey? (Gamma ray??? Hmmmmm) We are seeing ether-Rey so where are they physically? Unless gamma is going to say rey is under that tree in the forest and plushie rey was just a part of annie this whole time and that's how rey "finds himself" Indeed... where? Based on the speech bubbles, Rey is speaking normally, but Gamma is neither speaking nor communicating telepathically - at least not in the "normal" way (no zig-zag connector to star on her head like you typically see). It's like she is thinking to herself, but Rey is thinking it too? Maybe Gamma is everyone too - so her thoughts are Rey's thoughts?
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Post by TBeholder on Jan 18, 2021 14:48:45 GMT
Identity confusion, I was prepared for. Gamma smirking is something I was not prepared for Makes sense, however. Annie reacts with "ugh, this again", and it's what, fourth tour for her? Gamma is there every time, of course she doesn't even roll eyes at this nonsense. So where are gamma and rey? (Gamma ray??? Hmmmmm) In the Dreamland, at that. We are seeing ether-Rey so where are they physically? Somewhere Out In Space! Somewhere in the Court?
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Post by DonDueed on Jan 18, 2021 15:44:13 GMT
So, who do I see to get my cookie?
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Post by mglvna on Jan 18, 2021 15:53:14 GMT
It feels like Gamma's hair ends descending into the blackness of the background forms a nice parallel to Annie's infamous endlessly-flowing-ether-hair. A gothier, more low-key version of the same thing. Fitting for Gamma.
I don't think we've seen Gamma use the ether before, but since Annie can perform her ether-sink functions it's not especially out there for Gamma to have similar abilities. At least, I can't imagine where they are if it's *not* the ether (assuming "where" is even a relevant question for a place like Zimmingham, which it probably isn't). The fact that Gamma doesn't seem especially worried about Zimmy does give me a little relief.
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Post by mturtle7 on Jan 18, 2021 17:58:40 GMT
WOW this a relief. So Gamma isn't trapped, she's not far away, she's not unaware of what's going on...she's completely on hand and ready to deal with her crazy girlfriend like she's always been in the past. I was so scared that the Annies were going to have to deal with her latest breakdown by themselves! Although, that really does beg the question, of WTH actually set Zimmy off if it wasn't something bad happening to Gamma...
Also, holy carp I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING at that "Zimmy is being dramatic again" line! Gamma's freaking amazing, honestly, and I love her.
Edit: you know, if it turns out this mess started because of some completely trivial and petty fight between Gamma and Zimmy I will actually die laughing. Gamma - "No Zimmy, you can't have another bite of my ice cream." Zimmy - "RRRRAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH *runs off into a random alleyway* Guh-Gamma...why do you do this to me...*sobs*"
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Post by saardvark on Jan 18, 2021 20:23:11 GMT
crazy theory (probably wrong! wild spec?): Zimmy's "mental event" seems to have tossed Rey into the ether(?) perhaps, and she's melted/spread her consciousness "all over" www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2404www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2405One consequence of this is that Zimms can pass through characters like the elf kids. But apparently, only the Annies are really *there* - the elf kids here are not "real", but instead maybe are Annie's memories of them, made "real" by the Zimmingham reality-distortion-field, similar to the memory of Jack in Spring-Heeled www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=730But the elves are more than just Annie's memories, since Annie wouldn't know their names... Zimmy might have learned them in the chase though, and that knowledge is either infused into Annie's mind, or "added" on to this "scene" by the Zimmy-smear-of-consciousness present all over. Thus, the elf "memory" kids are really joint creations of the both Annies' and Zimmster's minds. It's sort of like the Annie's are dreaming, with Zimmy steering the dream and/or adding to it somewhat, but whatever they dream can become "real"... In this state, the Annie's would be wise to reign in any wild thoughts... or almost anything might suddenly become "real"! plushRey here too, would be Annie's memory of him, which makes this a bit more amusing... www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2407the Annie's see Rey is a bit of a chicken when it comes to Zimms!
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Post by echo on Jan 18, 2021 20:47:21 GMT
If my memory of watching that youtube clip is accurate, this is what some would call an Evangelion reference.
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 18, 2021 21:11:20 GMT
One consequence of this is that Zimms can pass through characters like the elf kids. But apparently, only the Annies are really *there* - the elf kids here are not "real", but instead maybe are Annie's memories of them, made "real" by the Zimmingham reality-distortion-field, similar to the memory of Jack in Spring-Heeled This Jack was "not a real boy, just a memory of someone". But... whose memory was he?
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Post by saardvark on Jan 18, 2021 21:19:54 GMT
One consequence of this is that Zimms can pass through characters like the elf kids. But apparently, only the Annies are really *there* - the elf kids here are not "real", but instead maybe are Annie's memories of them, made "real" by the Zimmingham reality-distortion-field, similar to the memory of Jack in Spring-Heeled This Jack was "not a real boy, just a memory of someone". But... whose memory was he?
good question.... Annie? Zimmy? (those two again...)
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Post by fia on Jan 18, 2021 22:55:45 GMT
So, who do I see to get my cookie?
Also here to pick up mine......... Well, they are all in Zimmy's head. In some sense, they are all Zimmy while they're in there.
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Post by echo on Jan 19, 2021 0:07:25 GMT
Well, this throws more fuel on the Annie=Zimmy theory. The last thing Annie needs is more fuel.
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Post by foxurus on Jan 19, 2021 1:32:26 GMT
So where are gamma and rey? (Gamma ray??? Hmmmmm) We are seeing ether-Rey so where are they physically? Unless gamma is going to say rey is under that tree in the forest and plushie rey was just a part of annie this whole time and that's how rey "finds himself" Indeed... where? Based on the speech bubbles, Rey is speaking normally, but Gamma is neither speaking nor communicating telepathically - at least not in the "normal" way (no zig-zag connector to star on her head like you typically see). It's like she is thinking to herself, but Rey is thinking it too? Maybe Gamma is everyone too - so her thoughts are Rey's thoughts? Judging by the color of the boxes, I think it's still Gamma speaking telepathically. Which would imply that Gamma has that ability innately, and it's not just a side-effect of her and Zimmy's close relationship. Perhaps Zimmy interferes with her abilities in such a way that Gamma can't use it to communicate with anyone else when she's nearby? One consequence of this is that Zimms can pass through characters like the elf kids. But apparently, only the Annies are really *there* - the elf kids here are not "real", but instead maybe are Annie's memories of them, made "real" by the Zimmingham reality-distortion-field, similar to the memory of Jack in Spring-Heeled This Jack was "not a real boy, just a memory of someone". But... whose memory was he? It was Jack's memory of himself when he went to Zimmingham the first time.
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Post by arf on Jan 19, 2021 3:22:22 GMT
So they are all parts of Annie and Zimmy? Also the ones who look like Annie, or are they only Annie? Headache incoming... This scenario sounds familiar. Goosy, goosy...?
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 19, 2021 8:18:38 GMT
Indeed... where? Based on the speech bubbles, Rey is speaking normally, but Gamma is neither speaking nor communicating telepathically - at least not in the "normal" way (no zig-zag connector to star on her head like you typically see). It's like she is thinking to herself, but Rey is thinking it too? Maybe Gamma is everyone too - so her thoughts are Rey's thoughts? Judging by the color of the boxes, I think it's still Gamma speaking telepathically. Which would imply that Gamma has that ability innately, and it's not just a side-effect of her and Zimmy's close relationship. Perhaps Zimmy interferes with her abilities in such a way that Gamma can't use it to communicate with anyone else when she's nearby? Possibly... or else, no one except Zimmy is able to receive Gamma's telepathic messages outside of warped space - and even in there it seems to require some sort of prerequisite, as this page strongly implies Jack can hear Gamma's telepathy while Annie cannot. Which is easily explained by Jack having retained something from his possession. Why then can Renard hear Gamma too? Meh, who knows what rules are valid for beings swimming in the Ether like him? I assume he must easily get "in tune" with Zimmingham.
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Post by blahzor on Jan 19, 2021 9:18:52 GMT
Judging by the color of the boxes, I think it's still Gamma speaking telepathically. Which would imply that Gamma has that ability innately, and it's not just a side-effect of her and Zimmy's close relationship. Perhaps Zimmy interferes with her abilities in such a way that Gamma can't use it to communicate with anyone else when she's nearby? Possibly... or else, no one except Zimmy is able to receive Gamma's telepathic messages outside of warped space - and even in there it seems to require some sort of prerequisite, as this page strongly implies Jack can hear Gamma's telepathy while Annie cannot. Which is easily explained by Jack having retained something from his possession. Why then can Renard hear Gamma too? Meh, who knows what rules are valid for beings swimming in the Ether like him? I assume he must easily get "in tune" with Zimmingham. Rey still technically a god and he's in his ether form something Coyote is at all times inside and out of the ether
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