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Post by wies on Dec 23, 2020 8:04:45 GMT
Annies getting used to it. I wonder why Reynardine is stuck in that form at Zimmyham? He was a wolf in past pages.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 23, 2020 8:06:51 GMT
Antimony found herself right away.
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Post by madjack on Dec 23, 2020 8:09:25 GMT
Zimmy looks to have disappeared. Forest kids could still be just off panel, but more likely everyone is scattered.
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Post by csj on Dec 23, 2020 9:11:37 GMT
It's the toyshop memories
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Post by migrantworker on Dec 23, 2020 9:21:07 GMT
Hmm, I wonder what is this place where they landed. Yeah I know it's Zimmyingham, but I mean more specifically.
The first panel shows a wall and a ceiling, meaning the view is from somewhere indoors. The second panel shows a curb and a double yellow line. So, that would be a street junction. The fourth panel shows stairs leading down.
I put this together, and came up with a multi-story parking garage.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Dec 23, 2020 9:32:48 GMT
There's a weird green shine emanating from the bottom left of each panel. What the radioactive hell is going on here?
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Dec 23, 2020 9:48:15 GMT
Hmm, I wonder what is this place where they landed. Yeah I know it's Zimmyingham, but I mean more specifically. The first panel shows a wall and a ceiling, meaning the view is from somewhere indoors. The second panel shows a curb and a double yellow line. So, that would be a street junction. The fourth panel shows stairs leading down. I put this together, and came up with a multi-story parking garage. That's a good bet. I've seen exactly that type of concrete ceiling joist in parking garages before
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Post by novia on Dec 23, 2020 10:19:46 GMT
I wonder why Reynardine is stuck in that form at Zimmyham? He was a wolf in past pages. Annie better try to GOP him just in case.
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Post by wanderer on Dec 23, 2020 11:29:26 GMT
I do not trust that ANY of the people we see in this strip are who they appear to be.
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Post by wies on Dec 23, 2020 11:29:49 GMT
I wonder why Reynardine is stuck in that form at Zimmyham? He was a wolf in past pages. Annie better try to GOP him just in case. Good point, I forgot Zimmyham could do that.
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Post by speedwell on Dec 23, 2020 12:39:45 GMT
There's a weird green shine emanating from the bottom left of each panel. What the radioactive hell is going on here? I don't think we've ever seen anything but the Omega device and mechanisms derived from it have that green glow so far.
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Post by saardvark on Dec 23, 2020 12:55:05 GMT
There's a weird green shine emanating from the bottom left of each panel. What the radioactive hell is going on here? I don't think we've ever seen anything but the Omega device and mechanisms derived from it have that green glow so far. Well, there's Diego's green arrow, and Kat's arrow-derived ether entry device... unless you are saying they are related to Omega somehow(?)
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Post by saardvark on Dec 23, 2020 12:59:05 GMT
I wonder why Reynardine is stuck in that form at Zimmyham? He was a wolf in past pages. Annie better try to GOP him just in case. Have we ever seen Reynard in actual Zimmingham before? He was on the distorted reality ship in Torn Sea, of course, but I wasn't thinking that was actually Zimmingham... But yes! GOP-test everybody and everything...
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Post by bicarbonat on Dec 23, 2020 13:18:33 GMT
Panel 2 is real "2020 pose."
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Post by pyradonis on Dec 23, 2020 15:00:56 GMT
Annie better try to GOP him just in case. Have we ever seen Reynard in actual Zimmingham before? He was on the distorted reality ship in Torn Sea, of course, but I wasn't thinking that was actually Zimmingham... That was the only time. By the way, when entering the changed ship Renard changed from wolf form to toy form, but that might have been deliberately to better cling to the railing.
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Post by ctso74 on Dec 23, 2020 15:46:51 GMT
A Merry Zmas to us all. Coyote bless us, every one. Blessing of the Trickster might be a good thing to have, right now. I'm a little scared of what the tree elves got for Zmas. Either, something worse than a lump of Zimmy-coal, or they're the stocking stuffers.
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Post by davidm on Dec 23, 2020 18:39:38 GMT
Antimony found herself right away. that isn't sure yet, based on past trips one could be fake or even zimmy or someone else.
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Post by davidm on Dec 23, 2020 19:52:59 GMT
With "find yourself" and the main stars of the show being Annie, Annie and Zimmy (who is missing) and we know that there is a 3rd Annie... chapter so far fits very well in with the zimmy is the 3rd Annie theory.
We also have had lots of focus on Anthony acting funny towards just one daughter recently, so if zimmy is Annie #3, possible backstory involves Anthony (possibly yet again trying to save his wife and unintentionally harming his daughter, this time in distant past in part causing zimmy).
We also have big focus on Omega device and in past Zimmy was the fuel for the love boat/Kat show that pushed Kat... Zimmy could be a key part of courts plan for "Omega device", another sacrifice like Jeannie for the "greater good". Coyote suggested court guys wanted to become like "gods"/him, more power and immortality are common desires for old men nearing their death.
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Post by saardvark on Dec 23, 2020 20:48:52 GMT
Have we ever seen Reynard in actual Zimmingham before? He was on the distorted reality ship in Torn Sea, of course, but I wasn't thinking that was actually Zimmingham... That was the only time. By the way, when entering the changed ship Renard changed from wolf form to toy form, but that might have been deliberately to better cling to the railing. Hmm, and later Rey switches back to wolf form, www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1430so he wasn't stuck in toy form on the Zimmified ship.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 23, 2020 21:56:05 GMT
Antimony found herself right away. that isn't sure yet, based on past trips one could be fake or even zimmy or someone else. In theory these three people should share a psychic link and while the Antimonies might not recognize each other necessarily they both should recognize Renard as being authentic or not, and by extension Renard would authenticate the other Antimony. So all things held equal (barring currently-unguessed shenanigans) these three are who they appear to be. The link is probably why they appeared together. Everyone else here is fair game.
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 24, 2020 0:29:36 GMT
Antimony found herself right away. If it's really her. I mean, before everything went half-sepia Zimmy could wish she was more judo-savvy and athletic like Annie, and… Won't be the first time.
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Post by Gemminie on Dec 24, 2020 15:24:54 GMT
Does anybody think that "Ugh ... this again ..." is foreshadowing that this won't be like any of the previous times?
There are those questioning whether we're seeing the real Annies and Renard, but I don't know. That's already been done – twice, in a way, with the "nobody Kat" in chapter 19, and the Annie/Zimmy switcheroo in chapter 28. Besides, since then, there are now two Annies, and Renard is a familiar to both of them, so there's an ethereal connection there. It would be difficult for anything to fool that connection, unless all three of them are fakes.
Finding the real treens is another thing altogether. Who knows what they're experiencing right now? In chapter 19 Jack (allegedly) could see Annie and Zimmy and even shouted at them, but they (or at least Annie) didn't see or hear him at all. They could very well be experiencing fake people, copies of each other or others they know, etc.
But getting out in the past has required finding Zimmy and finding Gamma (or rainfall). Finding Zimmy might or might not be easy. And I think it's been emphasized that Zimmy hasn't had an opportunity to say almost anything ("Shut up, Zimmy") – she's been out of breath and barely able to speak. We don't know what the full situation is, the sequence of events that led up to this, so that's going to have to unfold along with everything else as we go along.
Also, the sky was pretty gray, so we might well get rain at the end of the chapter. That in itself is remarkable, since the sky's been clear as a bell over the Court for quite some time. The weather "does not seem to alter much," according to Tony, who's been collecting and tabulating weather data carefully. Why such a sudden change, then? Somebody's certainly up to something, but is Zimmy's situation part of it or not? On the one hand, someone (the Court? Jones?) might be detaining Gamma and observing the effects on Zimmy, holding the rain until they've gotten their data. But the presence of the tree elves and Annies/Renard seems too coincidental to be a planned part of the experiment, and if someone's observing, one would think that such a large influx of random factors would contaminate the data, so they should start the rainfall immediately, because the experiment is clearly ruined from this point on.
Every time there's been a Zimmingham experience, it's ended with rain. That means that either Zimmy causes the rainfall, or the gathering of clouds for imminent rainfall causes a Zimmingham blip. If the Court can somehow manipulate the weather, they can cause etheric distortions at will – but do they even know that Zimmy is a factor? Jones seems to know, but does she tell the Court what she knows? Typically she doesn't tell anyone everything she knows. What if someone's studying the effects of weather on etheric distortions, and they have no idea that Zimmy's involved in any way? This sounds a lot like how machine learning works, and once again it's making me wonder whether the Court is run by an AI.
Anyway, hope you're having a happy holiday season, and that it's not in Zimmingham.
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Post by novia on Dec 24, 2020 23:54:06 GMT
There are those questioning whether we're seeing the real Annies and Renard, but I don't know. That's already been done – twice, in a way, with the "nobody Kat" in chapter 19, and the Annie/Zimmy switcheroo in chapter 28. Besides, since then, there are now two Annies, and Renard is a familiar to both of them, so there's an ethereal connection there. It would be difficult for anything to fool that connection, unless all three of them are fakes. Wouldn't it be funny if there were four annies?
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Post by pyradonis on Dec 25, 2020 16:58:00 GMT
we know that there is a 3rd Annie... No, we don't.
Does anybody think that "Ugh ... this again ..." is foreshadowing that this won't be like any of the previous times? There are those questioning whether we're seeing the real Annies and Renard, but I don't know. That's already been done – twice, in a way, with the "nobody Kat" in chapter 19, and the Annie/Zimmy switcheroo in chapter 28. Besides, since then, there are now two Annies, and Renard is a familiar to both of them, so there's an ethereal connection there. It would be difficult for anything to fool that connection, unless all three of them are fakes. Actually I feel the previous times were all very different.
Someone not being who they seem has even been done more than twice, if events without Zimmy's involvement count. Think of the chapter "Perspective"... So yes, more person illusions would become tiresome at this point...
If any of them have crossed over at all. In "Power Station", it was shown that physical proximity when Zimmy snaps does not guarantee that other people besides Gamma would cross over to Birminghell. Annie and Jack ended up there, Kat and the other kids who were standing right beside them didn't.
Although the thought of four angry youths on a demon-hunt being right beside your currently uninhabited body might be the scarier alternative.
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