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Post by arf on Oct 30, 2020 7:05:45 GMT
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Post by madjack on Oct 30, 2020 7:15:54 GMT
I guess Paz considers Annie more than 'a little' socially dense and Kat's chiding her for it. Which is fair enough, since she is.
She's also not technically apologising for seeking the confrontation with Annie, or even for the methods she used.
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Post by basser on Oct 30, 2020 7:25:55 GMT
"Don't gang up on her next time!" says Kat, ignoring the fact that Annie is two identical copies of a girl who can shoot frickin laser beams.
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Post by bicarbonat on Oct 30, 2020 7:29:37 GMT
She's also not technically apologising for seeking the confrontation with Annie, or even for the methods she used. It was an odd choice, to be sure. Sure, Paz loves Kat, but the fact that ganging up and intimidation was her first resort kinda sticks in the craw a bit, doesn't it? If Kat had further battened down the hatches in response to the Annies reaching out to her instead of opening up, what would Paz have done (or tried to do)? |
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Post by philman on Oct 30, 2020 7:29:53 GMT
Yay for adult conversations and apologies!
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Post by madjack on Oct 30, 2020 7:53:28 GMT
She's also not technically apologising for seeking the confrontation with Annie, or even for the methods she used. It was an odd choice, to be sure. Sure, Paz loves Kat, but the fact that ganging up and intimidation was her first resort kinda sticks in the craw a bit, doesn't it? If Kat had further battened down the hatches in response to the Annies reaching out to her instead of opening up, what would Paz have done (or tried to do)? I don't think it was her first resort though. Neither Paz nor Annie had the information about the causality-breaking that was going on with the tic-toc, so it's probable that Paz thought this was a relapse of the original issues Kat had with there being two Annies in the first place, rather than a separate issue altogether. Aside, Paz also hates making a fool of herself, due to being the youngest in a trio of sisters. That's probably factoring in to her feeling embarrassment the strongest. |
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Post by guntherkrieg on Oct 30, 2020 8:20:15 GMT
Welp, another instance in Gunnerkrigg of horrible behavior being brushed off as no big deal.
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Post by aline on Oct 30, 2020 8:24:54 GMT
She's also not technically apologising for seeking the confrontation with Annie, or even for the methods she used. Paz expressed regrets. Maybe we'll see her also making amends with Annie, or it might happen off screen. Personally, I'm not that interested in reading Paz making a formal apology. I'm content to see she reflected on her actions and realized that she went overboard. She's 14. She's making mistakes, then growing and learning. That's fine! |
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Post by philman on Oct 30, 2020 8:39:25 GMT
She's also not technically apologising for seeking the confrontation with Annie, or even for the methods she used. Paz expressed regrets. Maybe we'll see her also making amends with Annie, or it might happen off screen. Personally, I'm not that interested in reading Paz making a formal apology. I'm content to see she reflected on her actions and realized that she went overboard. She's 14. She's making mistakes, then growing and learning. That's fine! Exactly. A lot of adults can't admit when they made mistakes or went overboard. A teenager doing it is even more rare (Although I think they are 15/16 now? Tony came back at the start of year 10 (14-15 years old), and it must have been over a year since that surely?) |
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Post by madjack on Oct 30, 2020 8:42:50 GMT
She's also not technically apologising for seeking the confrontation with Annie, or even for the methods she used. Paz expressed regrets. Maybe we'll see her also making amends with Annie, or it might happen off screen. Personally, I'm not that interested in reading Paz making a formal apology. I'm content to see she reflected on her actions and realized that she went overboard. She's 14. She's making mistakes, then growing and learning. That's fine! I think they're about 16 now but that's still well inside idiot teenager territory. I want to say you're right about the growth and learning, and I think it's actually taking in Annie's case. Perhaps I'm reading this wrong but I'm just not sure Paz is feeling bad for the right reasons. Kat is probably being too light on her too but that may be due to the way Annie appears to be willing to let Paz off the hook. |
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Post by merry76 on Oct 30, 2020 10:42:19 GMT
Welp, another instance in Gunnerkrigg of horrible behavior being brushed off as no big deal. I dont read it that way. If they would think it isnt a big deal, they wouldnt have to talk about it. But they did, and Paz realized she did a bad thing. Maybe she already knew back then, but thought she HAD to do it (as in: do a bad thing to prevent the really bad outcome). She didnt (even on a re-read) look like she was completely composed during the confrontation. This, at least to me is an indication that she doesnt prefer to go up in peoples faces - which is a trait I prefer in people. |
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Post by homomculus on Oct 30, 2020 11:00:51 GMT
Welp, another instance in Gunnerkrigg of horrible behavior being brushed off as no big deal. I dont read it that way. If they would think it isnt a big deal, they wouldnt have to talk about it. But they did, and Paz realized she did a bad thing. Maybe she already knew back then, but thought she HAD to do it (as in: do a bad thing to prevent the really bad outcome). She didnt (even on a re-read) look like she was completely composed during the confrontation. This, at least to me is an indication that she doesnt prefer to go up in peoples faces - which is a trait I prefer in people. Yeah, if this was behaviour coming from an adult, I would absolutely be concerned at it being handled this (relatively) lightly, but it's not. Certainly Paz could have known better to not do it in the first place, and certainly she could apologize more profusely (and more importantly, to the Annies themselves), but acknowledging it was a problem at all is a solid enough first step for a teen. |
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Post by aline on Oct 30, 2020 11:10:43 GMT
Paz expressed regrets. Maybe we'll see her also making amends with Annie, or it might happen off screen. Personally, I'm not that interested in reading Paz making a formal apology. I'm content to see she reflected on her actions and realized that she went overboard. She's 14. She's making mistakes, then growing and learning. That's fine! I think they're about 16 now but that's still well inside idiot teenager territory. I want to say you're right about the growth and learning, and I think it's actually taking in Annie's case. Perhaps I'm reading this wrong but I'm just not sure Paz is feeling bad for the right reasons. Kat is probably being too light on her too but that may be due to the way Annie appears to be willing to let Paz off the hook. My bad, you're correct about the ages. Regarding why Kat is going easy on Paz, my thoughts: 1) Because Annie frankly wasn't too bothered about it (a little offended, but not really upset) 2) Because Kat herself feels partly responsible for Paz's outburst, what with the wall of miscommunication she built between them 3) Kat *was* on a dark road, and Annie *was* pretty oblivious and busy with other stuff, so even though her tone was questionable, Paz did send things in a positive direction. Even though she had no idea what was going on, because nobody tells her anything. Who knows how it would have ended if she hadn't been the missing link? The norns said Kat was younger than usual. Is that because Paz wasn't around the other times, and she wallowed deeper in her anxieties for years? Not to say it excuses everything, she said some mean things that she now gets to regret, but hey. Sometimes you can just say water under the bridge, and let it go. I doubt Paz is about to do this again. |
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Post by flowsthead on Oct 30, 2020 13:40:40 GMT
I dont read it that way. If they would think it isnt a big deal, they wouldnt have to talk about it. But they did, and Paz realized she did a bad thing. Maybe she already knew back then, but thought she HAD to do it (as in: do a bad thing to prevent the really bad outcome). She didnt (even on a re-read) look like she was completely composed during the confrontation. This, at least to me is an indication that she doesnt prefer to go up in peoples faces - which is a trait I prefer in people. Yeah, if this was behaviour coming from an adult, I would absolutely be concerned at it being handled this (relatively) lightly, but it's not. Certainly Paz could have known better to not do it in the first place, and certainly she could apologize more profusely (and more importantly, to the Annies themselves), but acknowledging it was a problem at all is a solid enough first step for a teen. For me it's not about the apologizing, but that Paz's instinct is to gang up on Annie, threaten her (multiple times), and try to argue her way into monopolizing Kat's time by breaking off Annie and Kat's friendship. How is this not a huge warning sign for the relationship as a whole? This is not just a teenager saying mean things, those things represent a really toxic thought process. And Kat being ok with everything and brushing it off is also not a good sign for Kat being able to recognize toxicity. Do people really think Paz will be fine with Annie now? Annie might ultimately not care about this, but Paz would rather believe the rest of the Court about Annie than she would Kat. Inherently, that will be a problem in their relationship. Kat is always going to side with Annie over the Court. |
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 30, 2020 13:49:48 GMT
Sometimes it seems, that Tom is talking directly to the forum, about the character's behavior. I imagine, it's merely him talking to the audience. But when it lines up with the forum's back-and-forth, it's kind of eerily on point.
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Post by wies on Oct 30, 2020 15:28:12 GMT
My two cents: It would be well if Paz also directly apologized to the Annies, but it is not needed since while her behaviour was too aggressive, she did indirectly help up clear Kat's mind of her worries, as Kat said, and the Annies aren't really upset about it. However, this is also not just idiotic teenager behaviour (I mean, it is, but it is also more) She has shown a trend of being a bit possessive (look at the framing of the first panel and consider the context that Annie seems to pick up too) of Kat and feeling insecure towards the Annies (even though she says she knows they are just friends). That is worrying. But it also makes sense Kat is not recognizing that so far. Is she the worst? Fricking far from that. She is sensitive and willing to help those who need help (think of the comic Traveller), but also a bit insecure and overprotective at times. (our flaws often are our virtues in overdrive) There seems to be a flint of steel in her that she needs to learn to handle better as she gets older. Just like how Annie is learning to handle her temper and Kat her inquisitive mind. |
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 30, 2020 15:46:18 GMT
"Don't gang up on her next time!" says Kat, ignoring the fact that Annie is two identical copies of a girl who can shoot frickin laser beams. Yeees... Kat's probably thinking of the emotional impact on someone as full of anxieties as Annie is, and less about whether three average schoolgirls could seriously be a physical threat to her.
Welp, another instance in Gunnerkrigg of horrible behavior being brushed off as no big deal. Well, at least this time it is actually talked about. I'm still waiting for someone to adress so many other instances of toxic behaviour (especially in relationships) in-story.
And Kat being ok with everything and brushing it off is also not a good sign for Kat being able to recognize toxicity. I think befriending Tony and not caring anymore about all the crap he had put Annie through in the past was a dead giveaway already. |
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Post by basser on Oct 30, 2020 16:13:14 GMT
Y'all what I meant is that if I'm Paz and my power is talking to animals I'm probably gonna want a little backup if I'm about to go confront two gals with a known history of explosive rage who control fire.
Everyone's focusing on teenager stuff and that's fine, I'm just saying you also gotta consider that Paz walked up to what amounts to a couple of magic nukes and read them the riot act. If she wants some friends around (some of whom might even have powers to help avoid everyone burning to a crisp if Annie gets upset) well that just seems like good sense. Kat forgot about Annie being insanely dangerous in the same way she forgets her robots can snap people in half.
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Post by flowsthead on Oct 30, 2020 16:43:51 GMT
Y'all what I meant is that if I'm Paz and my power is talking to animals I'm probably gonna want a little backup if I'm about to go confront two gals with a known history of explosive rage who control fire. Everyone's focusing on teenager stuff and that's fine, I'm just saying you also gotta consider that Paz walked up to what amounts to a couple of magic nukes and read them the riot act. If she wants some friends around (some of whom might even have powers to help avoid everyone burning to a crisp if Annie gets upset) well that just seems like good sense. Kat forgot about Annie being insanely dangerous in the same way she forgets her robots can snap people in half. Oh please, Paz was only bringing backup to bolster her bully logic. Paz has no real fear here: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2252 She was just going to use any excuse she can to paint Annie in a bad light. And as far as Annie's "known history of explosive rage", there is what, a burnt up bowling bowl? Annie has never hurt anyone, except for Winsbury that first year. |
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Post by basser on Oct 30, 2020 17:21:19 GMT
I mean you're free to twist Paz into a generic Mean Girl Bully as much as ya want, I just personally find a nuanced perspective a lot more interesting.
For example you bring up an interesting aspect in that Paz, who is intimately aware of animal behavior, must know that "x has never hurt anyone" is exactly how people end up mauled by animals they thought were safe. She understands how instinct can override everything you thought you knew about someone. She's also seen Annie use fire to frighten and intimidate. Not a huge leap to assume she might also use it to attack. (Which she actually has done before in a fit of rage, though Paz wouldn't know about that - you really think Eggers woulda been ok in Fire Spike without his magic chalk bubble? I don't think so. And I don't think Annie thought so, either. I think Annie genuinely tried to BBQ a dude and got lucky that he was able to draw up some kinda shield spell in the half-second he had to react.)
Basically, I dunno, folks just really seem to like making Annie out to be some innocent wee bab victimized by everyone and it gets a bit grating, yeah? Not only do you strip other characters of nuance by doing that but you also rob Annie of agency and flatten her motivations. Like to me the primary thing that's even interesting about Annie is that she's insanely powerful and knows it but actively chooses restraint in most situations. She'd be so incredibly dull if there weren't always an undercurrent of knowing she could torch everyone.
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Post by flowsthead on Oct 30, 2020 17:28:41 GMT
I mean you're free to twist Paz into a generic Mean Girl Bully as much as ya want, I just personally find a nuanced perspective a lot more interesting. For example you bring up an interesting aspect in that Paz, who is intimately aware of animal behavior, must know that "x has never hurt anyone" is exactly how people end up mauled by animals they thought were safe. She understands how instinct can override everything you thought you knew about someone. She's also seen Annie use fire to frighten and intimidate. Not a huge leap to assume she might also use it to attack. (Which she actually has done before in a fit of rage, though Paz wouldn't know about that - you really think Eggers woulda been ok in Fire Spike without his magic chalk bubble? I don't think so. And I don't think Annie thought so, either. I think Annie genuinely tried to BBQ a dude and got lucky that he was able to draw up some kinda shield spell in the half-second he had to react.) Basically, I dunno, folks just really seem to like making Annie out to be some innocent wee bab victimized by everyone and it gets a bit grating, yeah? Not only do you strip other characters of nuance by doing that but you also rob Annie of agency and flatten her motivations. Like to me the primary thing that's even interesting about Annie is that she's insanely powerful and knows it but actively chooses restraint in most situations. She'd be so incredibly dull if there weren't always an undercurrent of knowing she could torch everyone. I don't think she's a "wee bab" but I do think she has been victimized and traumatized over the course of this comic and it is infuriating that people keep taking the side of people who bully her. Yeah, Annie has fucked up a lot, but she has also mostly taken responsibility for those mistakes and regularly takes on more than her share of the blame in situations. There are very few characters that have put in the work Annie has with the people around her, the best example being the way her and Renard have rebuilt their relationship over time. So after seeing Paz treat Annie like shit, I'm not satisfied with her non-apology, and her not feeling bad about it. |
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Post by jda on Oct 30, 2020 19:06:55 GMT
Welp, another instance in Gunnerkrigg of horrible behavior being brushed off as no big deal. Well, at least this time it is actually talked about. I'm still waiting for someone to adress so many other instances of toxic behaviour (especially in relationships) in-story.
I'm still waiting for someone to address the Torn Sea! At least raise an eyebrow about all the teenagers going in a boat that was attacked and smashed! |
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Post by wies on Oct 30, 2020 19:32:36 GMT
I mean you're free to twist Paz into a generic Mean Girl Bully as much as ya want, I just personally find a nuanced perspective a lot more interesting. For example you bring up an interesting aspect in that Paz, who is intimately aware of animal behavior, must know that "x has never hurt anyone" is exactly how people end up mauled by animals they thought were safe. She understands how instinct can override everything you thought you knew about someone. She's also seen Annie use fire to frighten and intimidate. Not a huge leap to assume she might also use it to attack. (Which she actually has done before in a fit of rage, though Paz wouldn't know about that - you really think Eggers woulda been ok in Fire Spike without his magic chalk bubble? I don't think so. And I don't think Annie thought so, either. I think Annie genuinely tried to BBQ a dude and got lucky that he was able to draw up some kinda shield spell in the half-second he had to react.) Basically, I dunno, folks just really seem to like making Annie out to be some innocent wee bab victimized by everyone and it gets a bit grating, yeah? Not only do you strip other characters of nuance by doing that but you also rob Annie of agency and flatten her motivations. Like to me the primary thing that's even interesting about Annie is that she's insanely powerful and knows it but actively chooses restraint in most situations. She'd be so incredibly dull if there weren't always an undercurrent of knowing she could torch everyone. I don't think she's a "wee bab" but I do think she has been victimized and traumatized over the course of this comic and it is infuriating that people keep taking the side of people who bully her. Yeah, Annie has fucked up a lot, but she has also mostly taken responsibility for those mistakes and regularly takes on more than her share of the blame in situations. There are very few characters that have put in the work Annie has with the people around her, the best example being the way her and Renard have rebuilt their relationship over time. So after seeing Paz treat Annie like shit, I'm not satisfied with her non-apology, and her not feeling bad about it. Annie does a lot well that might indeed go underappreciated, but I don't think I ever saw someone taking Paz's side. It is more arguing to which degree her agressive actions were justified and how bad that should reflect on her. I also disagree she was bullying Annie. It is more she was pressuring and cowing her, not the most sympathetic things to do, but it is not that malicious as bullying imo. |
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Post by watermist on Oct 30, 2020 19:35:19 GMT
I think you guys really aren't giving Paz enough credit. I've been reading all the discourse about Paz over the past few chapters; people can be really nasty towards Paz! But this brings me to my point -- I've noticed that ever since Paz started dating Kat, people have been sort of, well, discounting Paz. But you guys, Paz was the first non-Zimmy/Gamma person to really see Kat for what she'd become.And unlike Annie, Paz didn't recoil in fear! Evidence A and the aftermath. ...compared to how Annie responded when she saw Kat like this. Now, I'll be fair to Annie. Annie does have a much deeper understanding of the Ether, and of all that applies. Paz only knows what she knows about animals. All the same, Paz knew about this, and has known for a long time now. Let's give her a little credit here, huh? |
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Post by flowsthead on Oct 30, 2020 19:48:21 GMT
I don't think she's a "wee bab" but I do think she has been victimized and traumatized over the course of this comic and it is infuriating that people keep taking the side of people who bully her. Yeah, Annie has fucked up a lot, but she has also mostly taken responsibility for those mistakes and regularly takes on more than her share of the blame in situations. There are very few characters that have put in the work Annie has with the people around her, the best example being the way her and Renard have rebuilt their relationship over time. So after seeing Paz treat Annie like shit, I'm not satisfied with her non-apology, and her not feeling bad about it. Annie does a lot well that might indeed go underappreciated, but I don't think I ever saw someone taking Paz's side. It is more arguing to which degree her aggressive actions were justified and how bad that should reflect on her. I also disagree she was bullying Annie. It is more she was pressuring and cowing her, not the most sympathetic things to do, but it is not that malicious as bullying imo. I'll admit that my reaction to Paz is not just about Paz, but about Tony and Red and the Psychopomps and the Court in general and also Paz. You are right that those two brief moments do not constitute bullying if we define bullying as a long term, consistent type of interaction. I'm just really tired of the general....ambivalence a lot of readers seem to have to how this could mentally affect Annie. There seems to be this assumption that because Annie could break Paz like a twig that it shouldn't matter how it affects her emotionally. Paz isn't a threat to Annie, or even a threat to Annie and Kat's friendship, but she represents the normalized view of people like Annie from the Court. And there is nothing Annie can do about that, but the people around her can, and it often seems like they haven't. I don't think Kat knows everything that Paz said, and I am sure she wouldn't be ok with it, but I think she is just too easy and willing to forgive in a way that doesn't allow anyone here room for growth. |
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Post by wies on Oct 30, 2020 21:41:35 GMT
I'll admit that my reaction to Paz is not just about Paz, but about Tony and Red and the Psychopomps and the Court in general and also Paz. You are right that those two brief moments do not constitute bullying if we define bullying as a long term, consistent type of interaction. I'm just really tired of the general....ambivalence a lot of readers seem to have to how this could mentally affect Annie. There seems to be this assumption that because Annie could break Paz like a twig that it shouldn't matter how it affects her emotionally. Paz isn't a threat to Annie, or even a threat to Annie and Kat's friendship, but she represents the normalized view of people like Annie from the Court. And there is nothing Annie can do about that, but the people around her can, and it often seems like they haven't. I don't think Kat knows everything that Paz said, and I am sure she wouldn't be ok with it, but I think she is just too easy and willing to forgive in a way that doesn't allow anyone here room for growth. I agree with most of what you said. Annie gets a lot of flak in-universe. Some of it is justified, but not most. Paz said it even so. "Everyone is saying it is your fault!" Annie being one of the "weird ones" having close ties with the Forest faces a lot of distrust in the Court. While that distrust got a lot better with her classmates (even Paz looks saddened here), the higher staff does not like her. Sometimes she provokes the Court's irritation and cares little for their rules. But those are small acts of rebellion of a child. Now, it is true she should try to be more impartial as medium, but their dick move of threatening her beat-up father so he would return to reign her in was wildly out of proportion and outright cruel. It did affect her mental state for the worse. So yeah, it is fair you are concerned for her mental state. Throughout the comic she has been shown to be severely insecure - she even cheated on her best friend's homework so Kat would not think she was stupid (and wow I am only now seeing during this archive trawl how much she associates emotion and vulnerability with being an idiot)- and you could see the initial frustration between the twin Annies as a metaphor for how much she does not like herself. I agree Paz, perhaps partly motivated out of jealousy and partly because she does not know better, reflects the Court's general opinion of her, outside of those who like her classmates and Kat's parents actually got to know her. And that can feel isolating when so many people blame you for something that isn't your fault. (It is Loup's.) She even blames herself. It is true Annie can't do much about what they think of her. And she gets little support in an hostile environment. But while she is fragile in certain ways, there is not only literal but also metaphorical fire in her. She can withstand a lot not many others could. Like conversing with Coyote and Loup and holding her own. She is steadfast and not to be cowed or easily swayed by what others think of her. The loneliness can grate, but I think as long the friends she has are with her, she can bear it. This all to say that I think Annie herself and her need for Anthony's approval are much more able to harm her than Paz ever could. The Court's higher staff and Coyote could be great threats, yeah, but I think it is a bit unfair to lump Paz in with that, even though she represents the normalized view indeed. Also, as last note, I see almost no one reflecting about Paz's mental state, and I feel that is doing her injustice. I already posted about Paz's insecurity so I won't repeat that, but I want to point people to this page of the same chapter she went on to confront Annie. And then to Kat's reaction to that. We know of an earlier chapter that when Kat is down and frustrated with herself, she tends to become uncaring and harsh to others ( a bad mood out of which Paz cheered her up, by the way) I believe Paz suffered that same treatment and was more than justified to be worried about Kat's mental state. Frankly, Paz should apologize to the Annies, but she also deserved that apology from K at imo.
Should Kat have said more to Paz about this whole situation? Maybe! But also, the conversation about that is maybe not done yet. I also am reasonably sure that if this happens again, it won't just be brushed off if that happened here.TL;DR: I agree people should take Annie's mental state and the degree of which the Court can be hostile to her more in account, but I feel that Paz does not really belong in that discussion. She thinks not highly of Annie (just look to her face in the third panel of today's comic) and was too aggressive, but to discuss how she affected Annie's mental state is to overlook the greater threats to which Paz is peanuts compared with. And I argue furthermore that people should take Paz's mental state in account too and also be a bit more critical of K at's actions. There are three people here in play of which no one is blameless. (I don't think it needs to be argued that Annie can be thoughtless of Kat's own needs and was reminded of that by Paz)
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Post by blahzor on Oct 30, 2020 21:53:59 GMT
Paz > Annie all day evrryday
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Post by wies on Oct 30, 2020 21:59:09 GMT
But you guys, Paz was the first non-Zimmy/Gamma person to really see Kat for what she'd become.And unlike Annie, Paz didn't recoil in fear! [...] All the same, Paz knew about this, and has known for a long time now. Let's give her a little credit here, huh? Yeah, that is something interesting actually. How much did Paz realize what she saw was Kat and why didn't she talk about it with her? I don't know if we know enough of what she thought she saw during that moment to give her credit, but it is certainly noticeable in any way. |
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Post by rafk on Oct 30, 2020 23:02:38 GMT
Yeah, if this was behaviour coming from an adult, I would absolutely be concerned at it being handled this (relatively) lightly, but it's not. Certainly Paz could have known better to not do it in the first place, and certainly she could apologize more profusely (and more importantly, to the Annies themselves), but acknowledging it was a problem at all is a solid enough first step for a teen. For me it's not about the apologizing, but that Paz's instinct is to gang up on Annie, threaten her (multiple times), and try to argue her way into monopolizing Kat's time by breaking off Annie and Kat's friendship. How is this not a huge warning sign for the relationship as a whole? This is not just a teenager saying mean things, those things represent a really toxic thought process. And Kat being ok with everything and brushing it off is also not a good sign for Kat being able to recognize toxicity. Do people really think Paz will be fine with Annie now? Annie might ultimately not care about this, but Paz would rather believe the rest of the Court about Annie than she would Kat. Inherently, that will be a problem in their relationship. Kat is always going to side with Annie over the Court. I do not think all will necessarily be fine between Paz and Annie now, no, or Paz and Kat, but I think this is a realistic way for this to go considering the characters and ages. It's fairly even money to me whether Kat and Paz are still together by the end of the strip or not, and I'm not really invested either way. |
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Post by Corvo on Oct 30, 2020 23:40:17 GMT
I don't think any of us know enough about what Paz knew at the time, nor what she was thinking, so trying to judge anything sounds a bit silly. The fact she's just a character in a work of fiction doesn't help either, haha! Personally, I just try not to project much, and ride along for the great story.
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