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Post by Timberwere on Sept 9, 2020 7:10:09 GMT
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Post by wies on Sept 9, 2020 7:12:08 GMT
Think that is all of the Tic Toc's appearances accounted for, save the one on the bridge.
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Post by Bontage on Sept 9, 2020 7:12:41 GMT
I have the sneaking suspicion that *this* chapter is going to end with Kat trying and failing to save past!Annie from falling into the river, to everyone's horror and surprise.
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Post by Angry Robot on Sept 9, 2020 7:12:56 GMT
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Post by arf on Sept 9, 2020 7:14:59 GMT
It went here next. While that might be all toc sightings bar the bridge*, at some point (not yet seen) it must have met the robots. I suspect we might find out about that in a later development. *We see the tictoc on the bridge on *two* occasions. Once when Robot is taking Shadow 2 back to Gillety, and once (plus a few more) when Robot pushes Annie off the bridge. [update] The tictoc sitting on the bridge emitted a shriek when Annie fell. Did that act as a marker for Kat to home in on?
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Post by philman on Sept 9, 2020 7:38:13 GMT
I have the sneaking suspicion that *this* chapter is going to end with Kat trying and failing to save past!Annie from falling into the river, to everyone's horror and surprise. It took multiple TicTocs to save Annie. Unless she can loop it she will almost certainly try with just one, at least the first time. chapter ends with them watching Annie die, and then looking around to realise she has disappeared entirely from their reality as well, since she wasn't saved in the past?
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Post by Eily on Sept 9, 2020 8:03:08 GMT
Thanks, I was looking for it. Think that is all of the Tic Toc's appearances accounted for, save the one on the bridge. The robots talked of the Tic Toc existing before even their ancestors were created, so I'm guessing Kat is going to explore the past a bit. Maybe to get some answers on the Court's creation. ... I just realized Kat has a Tic Toc application on her device.
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Post by blahzor on Sept 9, 2020 9:05:36 GMT
Tom's comment for this page makes me believe that they will not close 1 loop before chapter end
and i'm calling it being what triggers Loup's part in Coyote's plan
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Post by DonDueed on Sept 9, 2020 12:27:23 GMT
...and now I'm strangely bothered by the misspelling of "vastness" on that page.
It's interesting that Tom quickly abandoned the Annie-as-narrator trope for a more visual storytelling style.
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Post by todd on Sept 9, 2020 12:57:24 GMT
It's interesting that Tom quickly abandoned the Annie-as-narrator trope for a more visual storytelling style.
I've sometimes wondered if that stemmed in part from learning as he went along - finding ways to tell the story without needing a "voice-over narration". The shift away from that element might also have been helped by the presence (beginning with Chapter Eleven) of many chapters in which someone other than Annie was the point-of-view character, making Annie's narration more problematic.
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Post by migrantworker on Sept 9, 2020 13:20:14 GMT
...and we're done. Young Annie briefly slows down to watch the Tic-toc, and thus all other events are delayed juuust enough for Eglamore to not have walked away too far, so that he would still manage to protect her from being possessed by Reynardine. Well done Kat bye for now, the Norns said to the others' great disappointment. Wait, you didn't think Kat would keep visiting the Norns if all it took to save Annie was to cycle through all known Tic-toc sightings in one sitting? I have this sneaking suspicion that Kat will make a mistake somewhere, which will then set off its own chain of interesting consequences. Perhaps the Gunnerkrigg Court they return to will not be quite the same as the Gunnerkrigg Court they left earlier in the chapter.
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Post by ctso74 on Sept 9, 2020 15:24:13 GMT
I have the sneaking suspicion that *this* chapter is going to end with Kat trying and failing to save past!Annie from falling into the river, to everyone's horror and surprise. It took multiple TicTocs to save Annie. Unless she can loop it she will almost certainly try with just one, at least the first time. chapter ends with them watching Annie die, and then looking around to realise she has disappeared entirely from their reality as well, since she wasn't saved in the past? Not just die, but probably die at the hands of Jeanne. Gruesomely. What if only one Annie disappeared? I know that goes against what Clippy said, but his statements have seemed somewhat unreliable. Looking forward to Coyote. Looking forward to the Noms' reactions to Coyote.
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Post by netherdan on Sept 9, 2020 19:23:02 GMT
I have the sneaking suspicion that *this* chapter is going to end with Kat trying and failing to save past!Annie from falling into the river, to everyone's horror and surprise. Yes, that's probably how it happens. And the next chapter is probably the reason why Verdandi couldn't tell herIt took multiple TicTocs to save Annie. Unless she can loop it she will almost certainly try with just one, at least the first time. chapter ends with them watching Annie die, and then looking around to realise she has disappeared entirely from their reality as well, since she wasn't saved in the past? Considering Kat is not a Norn nor any other kind of time related deity and thus her experience of time is linear, she won't be able to loop all six in a single go and will probably watch Annie die at least 5 times. But the Annies disappearing from reality while she isn't saved is a nice ominous addition to the events. One more thing that could happen is the entire history being rewritten without Annie and only those who visited the Norns remembering her (which then would mean Kat, Anja and Brinnie), kinda what migrantworker suggested
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Post by netherdan on Sept 9, 2020 19:32:15 GMT
Ah, the conveniently placed bird perch. Probably the Court's first attempt at tracking the Tic-Toc. I wonder if hermetic suit guys were involved afterwards...
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Post by novia on Sept 9, 2020 22:03:14 GMT
I have the sneaking suspicion that *this* chapter is going to end with Kat trying and failing to save past!Annie from falling into the river, to everyone's horror and surprise. It took multiple TicTocs to save Annie. Unless she can loop it she will almost certainly try with just one, at least the first time. chapter ends with them watching Annie die, and then looking around to realise she has disappeared entirely from their reality as well, since she wasn't saved in the past? Nah. Neither of these Annies is from this timeline anyway.
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 10, 2020 11:22:13 GMT
It took multiple TicTocs to save Annie. Unless she can loop it she will almost certainly try with just one, at least the first time. chapter ends with them watching Annie die, and then looking around to realise she has disappeared entirely from their reality as well, since she wasn't saved in the past? Nah. Neither of these Annies is from this timeline anyway.That they should not be there does not mean they are from another timeline.
...and we're done. Young Annie briefly slows down to watch the Tic-toc, and thus all other events are delayed juuust enough for Eglamore to not have walked away too far, so that he would still manage to protect her from being possessed by Reynardine. Uh, which other events would be delayed? If any, Annie slowing down there increases the chance of Eglamore having already left when she arrives at the Large Animal Holding Cells.
It took multiple TicTocs to save Annie. Unless she can loop it she will almost certainly try with just one, at least the first time. chapter ends with them watching Annie die, and then looking around to realise she has disappeared entirely from their reality as well, since she wasn't saved in the past? Not just die, but probably die at the hands of Jeanne. Gruesomely. What if only one Annie disappeared? I know that goes against what Clippy said, but his statements have seemed somewhat unreliable. Looking forward to Coyote. Looking forward to the Noms' reactions to Coyote. The fall would have killed Annie. And if she were to disappear from this reality, a lot more would have to be rewritten. Including Kat never having visited the Norns, because she would have no reason to believe a robotic bird she built could be sent back in time to save her friend from year 7.
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Post by alevice on Sept 10, 2020 15:10:40 GMT
...and now I'm strangely bothered by the misspelling of "vastness" on that page.
It's interesting that Tom quickly abandoned the Annie-as-narrator trope for a more visual storytelling style.
FWIW, she used to do past tense prior to Anthony's phone call. By that time her narrating voice switched to present tense. Kinda interesting because she mentioned she wouldnt hear from him in 2 years, and then as soon as she heard of him, bam, switch to present tense.
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Post by jda on Sept 11, 2020 7:11:17 GMT
I just realized Kat has a Tic Toc application on her device. There is no way... Did Tom plan this from the beginning? XD Is that why each sight of timestream only last a few seconds?
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Post by Eily on Sept 11, 2020 7:44:19 GMT
I just realized Kat has a Tic Toc application on her device. There is no way... Did Tom plan this from the beginning? XD Is that why each sight of timestream only last a few seconds? If he did plan this from the beginning - which we all know he did, Tom is just that good - it means he planed it a decode before Tik Tok. The Norns are impressed.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Sept 11, 2020 11:58:29 GMT
There is no way... Did Tom plan this from the beginning? XD Is that why each sight of timestream only last a few seconds? If he did plan this from the beginning - which we all know he did, Tom is just that good - it means he planed it a decode before Tik Tok. The Norns are impressed. ... or Tom is really one of the Norms.
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 11, 2020 13:54:05 GMT
There is no way... Did Tom plan this from the beginning? XD Is that why each sight of timestream only last a few seconds? If he did plan this from the beginning - which we all know he did, Tom is just that good - it means he planed it a decode before Tik Tok. The Norns are impressed. He probably influenced the creation of this app.
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