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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 28, 2020 7:04:38 GMT
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Post by flowsthead on Aug 28, 2020 7:08:41 GMT
I know it won't, but I hope this puts to bed the notion that Annie is bad for Kat.
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Post by madjack on Aug 28, 2020 7:13:39 GMT
Just their luck to accidentally stumble across Temporal Affairs and still get bounced. |
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Post by shadow3 on Aug 28, 2020 7:18:50 GMT
It's time to take a trip to the Department of Temporal Investigations.
Hopefully Lucsly and Dulmur won't be too busy to help on this case.
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Post by wies on Aug 28, 2020 7:48:51 GMT
Profound changes to the world? Dang. First time the scope of the comic expanded beyond the Court and the Forest, I think.
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Post by justhalf on Aug 28, 2020 7:49:03 GMT
So Clippy is directing them to temporal affairs, and like Madjack mentioned above, temporal affairs is rejecting them?
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Post by Eily on Aug 28, 2020 7:50:01 GMT
Annie: Is there any chance you might remove of one of us? Norn: No, because we're the ones supposed to be able toAnnies: It was worth a shot That exchange definitely made absolute sense. Edit: don't get me wrong, I get that there might be good reasons to "fix" this situation. Like if it was known to mean that Annie is missing from another timeline, or if having two Annies would threaten the balance of the universe of something. But right now it sounds like they (the Annies and Kat) want someone, that they get along with just fine, to be permanently removed from there life because meeting them was unintended and unexpected, as if it meant meeting them in those conditions didn't count. |
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Post by madjack on Aug 28, 2020 7:59:43 GMT
Given what we know I think the best guess is that temporal affairs only covers the current continuity they're in, not all of them. Clippy didn't have full information and flat out told them he was out of his depth trying to explain all of it.
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Post by blahzor on Aug 28, 2020 8:38:25 GMT
having 2 annie's is not the normal i take from panel 3
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Post by merry76 on Aug 28, 2020 8:38:28 GMT
Annie: Is there any chance you might remove of one of us? Norn: No, because we're the ones supposed to be able toAnnies: It was worth a shot That exchange definitely made absolute sense. Edit: don't get me wrong, I get that there might be good reasons to "fix" this situation. Like if it was known to mean that Annie is missing from another timeline, or if having two Annies would threaten the balance of the universe of something. But right now it sounds like they (the Annies and Kat) want someone, that they get along with just fine, to be permanently removed from there life because meeting them was unintended and unexpected, as if it meant meeting them in those conditions didn't count. Well the norns aparently deal in "forwards and backwards" on the Timestream. Getting the annies sorted back to the timeline they belong to (and maybe getting the annie that belongs here back) is _sideways_ to the Timestream. Not that sideways is the correct term, but it helps my brain to sort this kind of stuff out  |
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Post by blahzor on Aug 28, 2020 8:43:10 GMT
Profound changes to the world? Dang. First time the scope of the comic expanded beyond the Court and the Forest, I think. depends if people in the world can see the thumb print on the moon or not also returning a Annie back to a timeline wouldn't do much, the fact the Annie is gone would still lead to a Kat do what she's going to and lead right back to them which i assume is something they want or need to happen. If the Annie is going to back to their timeline it would be of Kat's doing not there's anyway so mission accomplished without doing anything |
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Post by csj on Aug 28, 2020 9:18:20 GMT
I'm sure the answers are a short jump away... to the left
AND A STEP TO THE RIIIIIIIIGHT
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Post by csj on Aug 28, 2020 9:19:33 GMT
Annie: Is there any chance you might remove of one of us? Norn: No, because we're the ones supposed to be able toAnnies: It was worth a shot That exchange definitely made absolute sense. Edit: don't get me wrong, I get that there might be good reasons to "fix" this situation. Like if it was known to mean that Annie is missing from another timeline, or if having two Annies would threaten the balance of the universe of something. But right now it sounds like they (the Annies and Kat) want someone, that they get along with just fine, to be permanently removed from there life because meeting them was unintended and unexpected, as if it meant meeting them in those conditions didn't count. Well the norns aparently deal in "forwards and backwards" on the Timestream. Getting the annies sorted back to the timeline they belong to (and maybe getting the annie that belongs here back) is _sideways_ to the Timestream. Not that sideways is the correct term, but it helps my brain to sort this kind of stuff out I suppose they are still forked, for now. |
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Post by Elysium on Aug 28, 2020 10:26:28 GMT
"Sorry, it's not my department"
I actually say that a lot in job, an endless stream of schadenfreude!
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 28, 2020 11:47:57 GMT
Just their luck to accidentally stumble across Temporal Affairs and still get bounced. Norns: "You need Fire Elemental Affairs, or you could talk to the creature that shifted you."
The comic will continue endlessly until the Annies and Kat exhaust all other possibilities and finally talk to Loup.
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Post by Corvo on Aug 28, 2020 12:54:38 GMT
So the "Contracts Department" said Annie's case was a temporal affair, and the "Time Department" is saying that it's not. Can we assume they have no idea what Coyote really did?
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Post by Corvo on Aug 28, 2020 13:00:45 GMT
Just their luck to accidentally stumble across Temporal Affairs and still get bounced. Norns: "You need Fire Elemental Affairs, or you could talk to the creature that shifted you." The comic will continue endlessly until the Annies and Kat exhaust all other possibilities and finally talk to Loup.
Or until they find Permit A38. |
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 28, 2020 15:19:51 GMT
Am I the only one that thought it looked like an end-of-chapter symbol should appear in the last frame?
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Post by speedwell on Aug 28, 2020 15:24:02 GMT
"Sorry, it's not my department" I actually say that a lot in job, an endless stream of schadenfreude! i know, right? I say this at times even when I want very much to solve the issue myself. Wheels within wheels, as a certain Ezekiel might have mused were he a corporate employee. |
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 28, 2020 15:48:12 GMT
Well the norns aparently deal in "forwards and backwards" on the Timestream. Getting the annies sorted back to the timeline they belong to (and maybe getting the annie that belongs here back) is _sideways_ to the Timestream. Not that sideways is the correct term, but it helps my brain to sort this kind of stuff out There are the relative terms "upstream" and "downstream". The overall future is "upstream from here", but your individual future is "upstream from you". A time-traveling friend you meet for the first time, might introduce themselves with, "Oh, we had a grand Minoan adventure downstream from here, upstream from you" I suppose, you could use "cross-stream", or some variation of tributary and distributary?... I think the real brain-melting will start, when we have to figure out verb tenses. |
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Post by Gemminie on Aug 28, 2020 16:59:56 GMT
Just their luck to accidentally stumble across Temporal Affairs and still get bounced. I know, right? Cosmic bureaucracy, I tell ya ... But that does raise the question of what Annie's ongoing storyline will bring, particularly as regards there being two of her. What will happen when the Court eventually gives Loup back the lake water? Will he do something about the double-Annie situation, and if so, what? Will he return Forest Annie back to the timeline he took her from, the one where she never returned from the Forest? Will he realize that Court Annie also doesn't belong in the timeline she's in and send her ... somewhere? If he does, leaving the "main" timeline without any Annie at all, what will Kat do? Even if not, will Kat try to retrieve Forest Annie, or will she somehow see everyone in that timeline happy to have Annie back and leave her there? While I'm here, in what way will saving Antimony also save Kat? That is, what does she need saving from? Anyway, enough, before I have to move this to the Wild Speculation thread. I already deleted some things from this paragraph before posting. |
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 28, 2020 17:15:42 GMT
So Clippy is directing them to temporal affairs, and like Madjack mentioned above, temporal affairs is rejecting them? That the Norns deal in temporal affairs does not mean the are "the" Etheric department of temporal affairs... On the other hand, Clippy is not omniscient and has been corrected before.
Edit: don't get me wrong, I get that there might be good reasons to "fix" this situation. Like if it was known to mean that Annie is missing from another timeline, or if having two Annies would threaten the balance of the universe of something. But right now it sounds like they (the Annies and Kat) want someone, that they get along with just fine, to be permanently removed from there life because meeting them was unintended and unexpected, as if it meant meeting them in those conditions didn't count. I thought it was pretty clear that there is a timeline where Annie is missing because she never came back from the forest (who knows what this timeline's Kat is doing right now). Also both Annies are the same person, so you are not really removing someone. |
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Post by gpvos on Aug 28, 2020 17:56:30 GMT
I find the second panel really ominous. Okay, the comic is probably not going to end on a negative note, but still...
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Post by atteSmythe on Aug 28, 2020 18:19:47 GMT
Hm. Maybe this is ‘first loop’ Antimony. She didn’t really die when she fell - this loop’s, uh, Loup plucked her from the timestream before she died and then gave her this Antimony’s memories. The Court would assume her body was carried away by the river.
We’d need a second hand-wave for the age difference, I suppose. But this way, none of the Annies have to have died. As early as the second loop, they could be saved by the Tic-Toc.
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Post by saardvark on Aug 28, 2020 19:57:16 GMT
Is it just me, or does it seem like panel 3 should come before panel 2... or more precisely, panel 3 should come *after* 1. Seems flow better....
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Post by Gemini Jim on Aug 28, 2020 21:55:59 GMT
I like that "the three of you" is only "in this case."
Implies that one way or another, the future will involve "both" Kat and Annie, but not Kat, Annie, and Annie.
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 28, 2020 22:08:49 GMT
Hm. Maybe this is ‘first loop’ Antimony. She didn’t really die when she fell - this loop’s, uh, Loup plucked her from the timestream before she died and then gave her this Antimony’s memories. The Court would assume her body was carried away by the river. We’d need a second hand-wave for the age difference, I suppose. But this way, none of the Annies have to have died. As early as the second loop, they could be saved by the Tic-Toc. Everyone here is talking about the time looping. Since when is that a thing, anyway? Why should time loop? How long would one iteration be? Why should the universe be reset and restarted? Worse, it is not even reset. If it is a loop, its end will also be its beginning - "just by itself". How, when, why would this happen? |
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Post by Runningflame on Aug 29, 2020 1:32:41 GMT
Norns: "You need Fire Elemental Affairs, or you could talk to the creature that shifted you." The comic will continue endlessly until the Annies and Kat exhaust all other possibilities and finally talk to Loup.
Or until they find Permit A38. Ahh, it's the Circumlocution Office! |
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Post by wies on Aug 29, 2020 9:25:11 GMT
Is it just me, or does it seem like panel 3 should come before panel 2... or more precisely, panel 3 should come *after* 1. Seems flow better.... If you think "the three of you" refers to "saving antimony and also you", I see why the flow seems weird. But I think it refers to "changes brought by the both of you", and then the flow works. Unless you have a different reason for why this flow is not working well. |
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Post by saardvark on Aug 29, 2020 11:49:00 GMT
Is it just me, or does it seem like panel 3 should come before panel 2... or more precisely, panel 3 should come *after* 1. Seems flow better.... If you think "the three of you refers to "saving antimony and also you", I see why the flow seems weird. But I think it refers to "changes brought by the both of you", and then the flow works. Unless you have a different reason for why this flow is not working well. no, youve got it... the 3 of you = Annies^2 + Kat, as I read it.... I guess it can work both ways, depending on at what point the Norn recognizes that Annie = Annie x 2 |
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