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Post by wies on Aug 24, 2020 7:02:04 GMT
So the norns are saying dropping the bird in the stream is just the start of it. Kat will still have things to do. I am glad about that, it would be boring if the Norns did everything.
And looks like we are getting in why the norns are being so coöperative.
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Post by ellies on Aug 24, 2020 7:03:17 GMT
I feel like the obvious answer is that Kat went back in time to save Annie when she failed the first time.
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Post by gpvos on Aug 24, 2020 7:08:11 GMT
Guess: the first time Kat went so mad with grief that she actually did invent time travel, but she messed up some things, so the Norns thought it safer to do it this way.
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Post by arf on Aug 24, 2020 7:09:37 GMT
Is Verdandi coming on to Kat, or is she just saying 'trust me'? Either way, the plot thickens.
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Post by chrisjenl on Aug 24, 2020 7:10:03 GMT
There is no begin in time. Everything loops around all the time. or something like that is the answer i think.
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Post by madjack on Aug 24, 2020 7:12:34 GMT
Is Verdandi coming on to Kat, or is she just saying 'trust me'? Either way, the plot thickens. Gonna guess memory sharing, strap in for flashbacks. Or whatever it's called with no linearity.
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Post by Gemminie on Aug 24, 2020 7:16:44 GMT
I am so worried about the answer to that question. "Oh, Katerina, we do not like to discuss that subject. Suffice it to say that this is better for everyone."
Or, "She died. Then you died. Then others died too. You would feel sorrow for that timeline."
Or, "You saved your friend, but in the wrong timeline, so you never knew you'd saved her."
Or just, "Every time is the first time."
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Post by csj on Aug 24, 2020 7:23:05 GMT
If we get a vision of what happened in a different timeline, perhaps we will get something different to a flashback...
A flashsideways
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Post by blackouthart on Aug 24, 2020 7:23:33 GMT
Not sure if this has been said before (and cookies/apologies to whomever may have said it first!), but in the second last panel, Verdandi’s collar looks incredibly like the bismuth symbol. That can’t be a coincidence.
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Post by rosesonthewall on Aug 24, 2020 7:26:54 GMT
The Norns said she is younger this time, making me think she was older when she first asked. But I’m also in favour of chrisjenl’s guess.
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Post by wies on Aug 24, 2020 7:48:19 GMT
Not sure if this has been said before (and cookies/apologies to whomever may have said it first!), but in the second last panel, Verdandi’s collar looks incredibly like the bismuth symbol. That can’t be a coincidence. Thank you for those delicious cookies! Also the broche Verandi is wearing looks like the bismuth symbol half covered.
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Post by stclair on Aug 24, 2020 8:02:35 GMT
"First time" is an illusion of linear perspective.
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Post by Fishy on Aug 24, 2020 9:32:21 GMT
Well you see Kat it’s actually very simple. They have to help you because they’ve already helped you, and if they hadn’t then they wouldn’t. And if they wouldn’t then you wouldn’t have Annie, so you wouldn’t be here having done what you didn’t do yet.
And here I thought she was supposed to be the smart one.
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Post by arf on Aug 24, 2020 10:00:39 GMT
Well you see Kat it’s actually very simple. They have to help you because they’ve already helped you, and if they hadn’t then they wouldn’t. And if they wouldn’t then you wouldn’t have Annie, so you wouldn’t be here having done what you didn’t do yet. And here I thought she was supposed to be the smart one. She is the smart one. Just used to the concept of causality.
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Post by merry76 on Aug 24, 2020 11:36:53 GMT
Or just, "Every time is the first time." That would be, in a paradox way, probably the most correct answer. It would imply that the flow of time really doesnt mean anything here. Or for them.
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Post by blahzor on Aug 24, 2020 12:02:51 GMT
why are the annies different color blobs. having them identical would still get the message across of who the blobs are
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Post by blahzor on Aug 24, 2020 12:11:42 GMT
also present Norn big hair curl flips which eye it's over, probably just a mistake
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Post by arkadi on Aug 24, 2020 12:16:18 GMT
What I expected: the Norns scold Kat for tampering with forces she doesn't understand, charge her with fixing the mess she's made and demand a hefty price for their intervention.
What is really happening (?): the Norns happily enable our resident child genius to create a freaking recurring time paradox. For free. As a favour.
I mean, things could still take a turn, but it does look like they're headed that way.
Possible explanations (which may or may not rule each other out):
-the Norns know that Kat is bound to become a goddess, and they're already treating her as an equal.
-the existence of a recurring time paradox actually isn't a big deal in the great scheme of things. -which probably means that there being two Annies isn't a big deal either, as far as the Fates are concerned.
-whatever Kat is going to do to the timeline, it is meant to happen, or at least it's better than the alternative. That's why the Norns are being so accomodating.
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Post by blahzor on Aug 24, 2020 12:24:22 GMT
What I expected: the Norns scold Kat for tampering with forces she doesn't understand, charge her with fixing the mess she's made and demand a hefty price for their intervention. What is really happening (?): the Norns happily enable our resident child genius to create a freaking recurring time paradox. For free. As a favour. I mean, things could still take a turn, but it does look like they're headed that way. Possible explanations (which may or may not rule each other out): -the Norns know that Kat is bound to become a goddess, and they're already treating her as an equal. -the existence of a recurring time paradox actually isn't a big deal in the great scheme of things. -which probably means that there being two Annies isn't a big deal either, as far as the Fates are concerned. -whatever Kat is going to do to the timeline, it is meant to happen, or at least it's better than the alternative. That's why the Norns are being so accomodating. if 2 Annie's was a problem Loup would have gotten a visit ala Kat did using the arrow. it didn't actually violate a fundamental law so no one cares. They aren't even trying to really talk to Annie at any point or care she was brought
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 24, 2020 13:26:52 GMT
What I expected: the Norns scold Kat for tampering with forces she doesn't understand, charge her with fixing the mess she's made and demand a hefty price for their intervention. What is really happening (?): the Norns happily enable our resident child genius to create a freaking recurring time paradox. For free. As a favour. I mean, things could still take a turn, but it does look like they're headed that way. Possible explanations (which may or may not rule each other out): -the Norns know that Kat is bound to become a goddess, and they're already treating her as an equal. -the existence of a recurring time paradox actually isn't a big deal in the great scheme of things. -which probably means that there being two Annies isn't a big deal either, as far as the Fates are concerned. -whatever Kat is going to do to the timeline, it is meant to happen, or at least it's better than the alternative. That's why the Norns are being so accomodating. Additional suggestion:
- After Kat is done, the Etheric police arrives to arrest her. The Norns say: "Oh, did we forget to mention that?"
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Post by blackouthart on Aug 24, 2020 13:39:07 GMT
The Etheric police are just old British style coppers who come bursting in through the door with handlebar moustaches, white gloves, 1920s-ish uniforms and bumble around yelling “Raid!” and make extremely Dr. Who jokes.
Let me have my fun.
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 24, 2020 14:08:15 GMT
Verdandi: "What happened?... Full denim outfits and toe shoes..." Urd: "As far as the eye could see." *shudder* Anja: "Katerina Maria Donlan! What did you do?"
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Post by The Anarch on Aug 24, 2020 14:19:16 GMT
Seems to me that getting a comforting smile from yourself would be more disconcerting than anything else.
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Post by Sky Schemer on Aug 24, 2020 14:46:51 GMT
Exactly how many loops are there, then? How many Tic-Tocs have been sent back in time? Perhaps the final loop occurs when there are so many Tic-Tocs in the past that they cause the disaster that leads to Tea's intermission pages, thus tying the whole comic together.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 24, 2020 17:37:31 GMT
-the Norns know that Kat is bound to become a goddess, and they're already treating her as an equal. This was my first thought. I assume the Norns know that Kat currently doesn't know that she is becoming a god, thus the comforting look from Verdandi.
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Post by netherdan on Aug 24, 2020 19:36:44 GMT
why are the annies different color blobs. having them identical would still get the message across of who the blobs are Those are the most predominant color in their outfit -the Norns know that Kat is bound to become a goddess, and they're already treating her as an equal. This was my first thought. I assume the Norns know that Kat currently doesn't know that she is becoming a god, thus the comforting look from Verdandi. I think we're so invested in Kat's divinity fate that Tom might just go "actually, no" and that's the biggest curveball this comic have thrown us
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Post by saardvark on Aug 24, 2020 20:19:16 GMT
also present Norn big hair curl flips which eye it's over, probably just a mistake actually , Kat's hair is doing it too(!) from our perspective the eye that the big curl is over is.... big curl position panel Kat. Norn 1. L. R 2 L. ? 3. R* R 4. L* L 5. R. ? 6. ? L *inferred by non-presence on side of face we can see maybe its windy in the Norn-time-pool-room?
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Post by jasmijn on Aug 24, 2020 20:43:50 GMT
"we made out a bunch"
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Post by verrenox on Aug 24, 2020 20:59:12 GMT
My short-term prediction: next page is a single panel with a huge mic-drop from verdandi, and the end of the chapter.
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Post by Gemminie on Aug 24, 2020 23:13:50 GMT
I think we're so invested in Kat's divinity fate that Tom might just go "actually, no" and that's the biggest curveball this comic have thrown us One thing I can see is that perhaps Kat herself is not becoming a goddess -- her machine angel avatar is. The androids (which is what I'm calling the evolved robots, based on what Kat called them when she first got the idea) have an image of their angel, and that image is based partly on Kat and partly on the robots' (and later the androids') hopes and beliefs. Currently Kat's personality and goals align with the angel's, but if someday the androids' faith goes one direction and Kat's wishes go another, they could come into conflict. And one of them has divine powers while the other doesn't. That's one possible scenario I can think of, at least.
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