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Post by madjack on Aug 5, 2020 7:05:04 GMT
Off to Valhalla or wherever the Norns live? Real happy to have been wrong here, everybody is invited.
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Post by jda on Aug 5, 2020 7:10:22 GMT
A child, a young woman, and a crone. They fill the river Time that flows upward from them.
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Post by warrl on Aug 5, 2020 7:22:56 GMT
So here being the young ladies who will has making so much trouble, did tying time in interested knots!
(Standard verb tenses don't work very well for time travelers and truly timeless beings.)
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Post by Eversist on Aug 5, 2020 7:31:59 GMT
I’ll take something cookie-adjacent for mentioning the abstract lines in the background looking like rafters of a mead hall or similar.
Excited to see where this goes!
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Post by Eily on Aug 5, 2020 7:39:12 GMT
A child, a young woman, and a crone. They fill the river Time that flows upward from them. Kind of hard to tell if there's three of them yet. We can see two already though.
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Post by wies on Aug 5, 2020 7:59:59 GMT
I’ll take something cookie-adjacent for mentioning the abstract lines in the background looking like rafters of a mead hall or similar. Excited to see where this goes! Thank you for mentioning the rafters. I didn't know of a mead hall and thought it looked like a movie set which made me speculate on KatVision.
A child, a young woman, and a crone. They fill the river Time that flows upward from them. Kind of hard to tell if there's three of them yet. We can see two already though. If you zoom in you can see the child standing by. It is the blue on the tallest's red dress.
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Post by speedwell on Aug 5, 2020 8:06:12 GMT
I think that's Mímisbrunnr (the well Odin gave one of his eyes in exchange for a drink from).
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Post by arf on Aug 5, 2020 8:49:12 GMT
This is meant to be at the foot of Yggdrasil, the tree between the worlds. It was from here that Odin hung himself for seven days to obtain the secret of runes.* Remember that, next time you have bad memories of learning to write.
I wonder if Kat's seeing what the others are, or whether they're seeing richly panelled walls.
*Legend has it Tom hung himself from there in order to access the 'Ale and Wenches' font
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Post by Eily on Aug 5, 2020 9:47:40 GMT
I’ll take something cookie-adjacent for mentioning the abstract lines in the background looking like rafters of a mead hall or similar. Excited to see where this goes! Thank you for mentioning the rafters. I didn't know of a mead hall and thought it looked like a movie set which made me speculate on KatVision.
Kind of hard to tell if there's three of them yet. We can see two already though. If you zoom in you can see the child standing by. It is the blue on the tallest's red dress. Oh you're right. I thought it looked that the tallest one had some multi-colored dress, but it does look like a smaller individual with the appropriate zoom.
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 5, 2020 10:19:45 GMT
I think that's Mímisbrunnr (the well Odin gave one of his eyes in exchange for a drink from). Ohh, do you think Mimir is around here somewhere, as well?
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Post by netherdan on Aug 5, 2020 11:57:04 GMT
The thing behind them aren't rocks. That's actual, physical, tangible time. Do not touch it or you might cause time traveling robirds! (Kat will not accept that as an answer)
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Post by saardvark on Aug 5, 2020 12:12:24 GMT
I’ll take something cookie-adjacent for mentioning the abstract lines in the background looking like rafters of a mead hall or similar. Excited to see where this goes! a cupcake, maybe? or a small tart?
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Post by speedwell on Aug 5, 2020 12:20:35 GMT
I think that's Mímisbrunnr (the well Odin gave one of his eyes in exchange for a drink from). Ohh, do you think Mimir is around here somewhere, as well? Depending where we are in the Aesir and Vanir timeframe, at least *some* of him
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Post by speedwell on Aug 5, 2020 12:22:26 GMT
The thing behind them aren't rocks. That's actual, physical, tangible time. Do not touch it or you might cause time traveling robirds! (Kat will not accept that as an answer) heh. they're not rocks anyway, they're tree roots. Anyone have a green-folk engineer handy?
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Post by alevice on Aug 5, 2020 12:32:38 GMT
I can tell the plot twist is that they are all Jones.
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Post by todd on Aug 5, 2020 12:39:01 GMT
By one of the roots of Yggdrasil, according to the Norse myths. (I might as well add that Asgard and Valhalla are not synonymous, outside of Wagner. Valhalla was the feasting-hall where the souls of the human warriors in Odin's service stayed; it was just one building in Asgard.) And it seems that my speculation about Tom taking the "Maiden Mother Crone" approach towards the Norns has proven correct.
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Post by madjack on Aug 5, 2020 13:00:23 GMT
The thing behind them aren't rocks. That's actual, physical, tangible time. Do not touch it or you might cause time traveling robirds! (Kat will not accept that as an answer) Is it wrong I read this in Cave Johnson's voice? My brain is telling me that's a portal 2 (mis)quote.
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 5, 2020 14:33:06 GMT
I wonder, if the Maiden will start a sentence, the Mother will speak mid sentence, and the Crone will end it? Or they could speak in song, showing their connection to rhythm, and therefore time. Brinnie whispering: "No matter how curious you are, just don't mention Eurovision." Crone smiles in the background, and does jazzhands.
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Post by atteSmythe on Aug 5, 2020 15:15:19 GMT
I can tell the plot twist is that they are all Jones Eglamore.
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Post by seedmagnesium on Aug 5, 2020 15:43:56 GMT
The Tic-Tok didn't go with them. So presumably the Norns are going to tell or teach Kat something rather than saying "poof, your bird has been sent back in time".
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Post by speedwell on Aug 5, 2020 16:25:38 GMT
The Tic-Tok didn't go with them. So presumably the Norns are going to tell or teach Kat something rather than saying "poof, your bird has been sent back in time". Apropos of nothing, I love your username. Although there's a part of my brain that won't leave it alone. "Did you see that twinkle?" "No... I think it was too fast for me. What do you think it was?" "I think, um, it was the entire illustrated history of the Seed Oganesson."
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 5, 2020 16:45:33 GMT
Ohh, do you think Mimir is around here somewhere, as well? Depending where we are in the Aesir and Vanir timeframe, at least *some* of him I was going to type "Do you think Mimir is hanging around here somewhere?", but then I thought it would be just too weird, with him sometimes being described as a bodyless head...
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Post by jda on Aug 6, 2020 0:39:14 GMT
Please, take a moment to appreciate that curved domed panel.
This may be a good point to list all panels specially formed/drawn.
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Post by verrenox on Aug 6, 2020 1:51:16 GMT
I wonder, if the Maiden will start a sentence, the Mother will speak mid sentence, and the Crone will end it? Or they could speak in song, showing their connection to rhythm, and therefore time. But they don't necessarily talk in the order of maiden -> mother -> crone, so the sentences can be said out of place. This could work with what other people are thinking about Kat not understanding at first but then finding a pattern, reorganizing the sentence to the right order, and then figuring it out.
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Post by netherdan on Aug 6, 2020 1:56:03 GMT
The thing behind them aren't rocks. That's actual, physical, tangible time. Do not touch it or you might cause time traveling robirds! (Kat will not accept that as an answer) Is it wrong I read this in Cave Johnson's voice? My brain is telling me that's a portal 2 (mis)quote. Who cares if it's wrong! It turned out awesome by reading it in the man's voice! Just replace Katerina with Caroline in your head and it could pass for a decent CJ line
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Post by DonDueed on Aug 6, 2020 2:31:52 GMT
I wonder, if the Maiden will start a sentence, the Mother will speak mid sentence, and the Crone will end it? Or they could speak in song, showing their connection to rhythm, and therefore time. But they don't necessarily talk in the order of maiden -> mother -> crone, so the sentences can be said out of place. This could work with what other people are thinking about Kat not understanding at first but then finding a pattern, reorganizing the sentence to the right order, and then figuring it out. Welcome, verrenox! That would be a very cool technique. It would not only confuse Kat, but also the forum readers. I can imagine some long threads trying to work it out. It would also fall in line with other historical oracles, which often gave confusing and/or ambiguous pronouncements.
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Post by netherdan on Aug 6, 2020 13:32:50 GMT
I can tell the plot twist is that they are all Jones. My first thought But they don't necessarily talk in the order of maiden -> mother -> crone, so the sentences can be said out of place. This could work with what other people are thinking about Kat not understanding at first but then finding a pattern, reorganizing the sentence to the right order, and then figuring it out. Welcome, verrenox! That would be a very cool technique. It would not only confuse Kat, but also the forum readers. I can imagine some long threads trying to work it out. It would also fall in line with other historical oracles, which often gave confusing and/or ambiguous pronouncements. Just to add to the confusion, it would be fun if the child Norn spoke her sentences in the future tense while the crone in the past tense just to poke fun at the guests and then reveal they don't really need to
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Post by verrenox on Aug 6, 2020 20:41:18 GMT
But they don't necessarily talk in the order of maiden -> mother -> crone, so the sentences can be said out of place. This could work with what other people are thinking about Kat not understanding at first but then finding a pattern, reorganizing the sentence to the right order, and then figuring it out. Welcome, verrenox! That would be a very cool technique. It would not only confuse Kat, but also the forum readers. I can imagine some long threads trying to work it out. It would also fall in line with other historical oracles, which often gave confusing and/or ambiguous pronouncements.
Aw thanks for the welcome! I found and finished reading up to date in the last week, then decided to dive into the forums since I haven't learned to be patient with waiting and want more now. Making that comment is what made me make an account.
And yeah, historically confusing oracles was what I was thinking about at the time.
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Post by Runningflame on Aug 6, 2020 23:48:57 GMT
So here being the young ladies who will has making so much trouble, did tying time in interested knots! (Standard verb tenses don't work very well for time travelers and truly timeless beings.) Hmm, now you've got me wondering what the grammar of a language spoken by timeless beings might be like. The simple solution is that they don't mark time on their verbs at all, effectively making them all present tense ("here be the young ladies who make so much trouble"). Or they might mark verbs not by past-present-future, but by how close to the current moment they are in either direction, rather like we describe space as "here" or "there"--though this approach still basically assumes time is continuous and thus has trouble describing time travel. Or they might not have verbs at all, just nouns and a complex set of cases or prepositions describing the relationships between them ("near us the young ladies under whose hand so much trouble").
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 7, 2020 7:21:20 GMT
So here being the young ladies who will has making so much trouble, did tying time in interested knots! (Standard verb tenses don't work very well for time travelers and truly timeless beings.) Hmm, now you've got me wondering what the grammar of a language spoken by timeless beings might be like. The simple solution is that they don't mark time on their verbs at all, effectively making them all present tense ("here be the young ladies who make so much trouble"). Or they might mark verbs not by past-present-future, but by how close to the current moment they are in either direction, rather like we describe space as "here" or "there"--though this approach still basically assumes time is continuous and thus has trouble describing time travel. Or they might not have verbs at all, just nouns and a complex set of cases or prepositions describing the relationships between them ("near us the young ladies under whose hand so much trouble"). I can't help but think the answer could be in this book.
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