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Post by wies on Aug 3, 2020 7:03:16 GMT
Allright, everyone ready to visit the norns?
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Post by madjack on Aug 3, 2020 7:09:46 GMT
We aren't going to see them, are we? It'll just be Brinnie taking Kat there offscreen.
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Post by wies on Aug 3, 2020 7:15:57 GMT
Oooor it will be in KatVision.
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Post by Gemminie on Aug 3, 2020 7:16:54 GMT
Paging Katerina Donalddottir, the Norns will see you now ... or soon ... or already ... darn these time travel complications ...
Will the Norns look different to Kat than they do to others? Will she have to pass some kind of test to talk to them, but to her the test is just picking up a pencil or something?
What will they say to Kat? Will they tell her how to do time travel, but it'll all be ethereal, and she's going to have to find a way to make it technological?
Will it be magical (i.e. something unexplainable by its very nature), and will Kat have to drift even farther from her pure-rational worldview?
Or will they tell her something cryptic that she doesn't understand now, but once she does, it'll all click into place?
Will they give her some sort of artifact to study that will tell her the secret once she figures out how it works? (Not a talking artifact -- I mean that the process of figuring out how it works will tell her the answer.)
Will they give her some old book/scroll that will tell her the answer, but in archaic and cryptic terms?
Or, given that it's Kat, will they give her something that looks different to her? "You're giving me this ... spiral-bound notebook." "No, child, that is the Ancient Scroll of Time, penned by the sages of old, etc. etc."
In the end, I'll probably be wrong about every single one of these!
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Post by arf on Aug 3, 2020 7:22:32 GMT
"The Donalddottir will see the Norns now."
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Post by wies on Aug 3, 2020 7:23:44 GMT
Or, given that it's Kat, will they give her something that looks different to her? "You're giving me this ... spiral-bound notebook." "No, child, that is the Ancient Scroll of Time, penned by the sages of old, etc. etc." Heh. I don't know how. Seems you covered all the possible options. But yeah, it has been hard to predict pages of GKC.
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Post by Gemminie on Aug 3, 2020 7:33:46 GMT
I don't know how. Seems you covered all the possible options. But yeah, it has been hard to predict pages of GKC.
Well I had another thought just now; what if Kat sees the Office of Temporal Affairs, looking like a modern office, while Brinnie sees the Norns?
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Post by Corvo on Aug 3, 2020 7:36:38 GMT
Turns out they just want to yell at Kat for breaking time.
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Post by MarineMonarch on Aug 3, 2020 7:38:50 GMT
I have to say, it's very cute seeing Annie get excited about getting to show off her mythology knowlege
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Post by cu on Aug 3, 2020 7:42:42 GMT
Can she bring the Tonydóttirs along?
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Post by madjack on Aug 3, 2020 7:47:14 GMT
I have to say, it's very cute seeing Annie get excited about getting to show off her mythology knowlege This showoff-y attitude is why I'm guessing she won't be coming, she'll move to join Kat and Brinnie to be ZAM!'d off to them and Brinnie will tell her no, only Kat is invited. Then we'll segue in to Annie and Anja having a talk about Kat's mental health and such. Edit: Anja still has that off-center smile in panel 5. She definitely knows more than she's let on so far.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Aug 3, 2020 7:58:27 GMT
I don't know how. Seems you covered all the possible options. But yeah, it has been hard to predict pages of GKC.
Well I had another thought just now; what if Kat sees the Office of Temporal Affairs, looking like a modern office, while Brinnie sees the Norns? I'd say just like the RotD, everyone that comes along sees these huge towering scary deities (and they might also see Kat as such), and Kat just sees three old crones sitting in rocking chairs knitting a sweater.
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Post by wies on Aug 3, 2020 8:02:50 GMT
That actually might be also how the Norns like to appear. Though it is important to know RoTD is different than all other etheric things we saw. It is explicitly made and sustained by 'normal' souls that used illusions to impress - which didn't work on Kat. But we don't know if that will also go with other etheric beings. She seemed to see the same as Annie with Ketrak and the Arbiter, though we can't be sure.
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Post by King Mir on Aug 3, 2020 8:43:35 GMT
Paging Katerina Donalddottir, the Norns will see you now ... or soon ... or already ... darn these time travel complications ... Will the Norns look different to Kat than they do to others? Will she have to pass some kind of test to talk to them, but to her the test is just picking up a pencil or something? What will they say to Kat? Will they tell her how to do time travel, but it'll all be ethereal, and she's going to have to find a way to make it technological? Will it be magical (i.e. something unexplainable by its very nature), and will Kat have to drift even farther from her pure-rational worldview? Or will they tell her something cryptic that she doesn't understand now, but once she does, it'll all click into place? Will they give her some sort of artifact to study that will tell her the secret once she figures out how it works? (Not a talking artifact -- I mean that the process of figuring out how it works will tell her the answer.) Will they give her some old book/scroll that will tell her the answer, but in archaic and cryptic terms? Or, given that it's Kat, will they give her something that looks different to her? "You're giving me this ... spiral-bound notebook." "No, child, that is the Ancient Scroll of Time, penned by the sages of old, etc. etc." In the end, I'll probably be wrong about every single one of these! I expect Kat will see the norns just like they are mythically portrayed, just like she saw Ankou. She sees through certain illusions, but for true mythical beings she sees them as they are.
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 3, 2020 9:00:29 GMT
Nice of the Norns to answer so quickly, I had feared we'd have to wait for Brinnie's return for several pages.
This showoff-y attitude is why I'm guessing she won't be coming, she'll move to join Kat and Brinnie to be ZAM!'d off to them and Brinnie will tell her no, only Kat is invited. "No, no, I said 'the Norns will see you now', not 'the Norns will see you now', and, damn, why is your English language so stupidly ambiguous?"
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 3, 2020 10:23:29 GMT
For a minute I was confused and tried to figure out which Norn is Young Donaldóttir.
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Post by philistine21 on Aug 3, 2020 11:40:22 GMT
For a minute I was confused and tried to figure out which Norn is Young Donaldóttir. Maybe the Norns are actually just three versions of Kat from different timelines trying to sort out the mess they've made.
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Post by netherdan on Aug 3, 2020 12:30:01 GMT
For a minute I was confused and tried to figure out which Norn is Young Donaldóttir. Maybe the Norns are actually just three versions of Kat from different timelines trying to sort out the mess they've made. Maybe we'll share some cookies? But I dunno if they'll be just the dough, unbaked or baked cookies... It's hard with the Norns involved
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Post by todd on Aug 3, 2020 12:47:40 GMT
I've been wondering, ever since the Norns were first mentioned, whether Tom will take the "Maiden/Mother/Crone" approach towards them (it's popular these days with female mythological trios), or some other interpretation.
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Post by Gemminie on Aug 3, 2020 12:50:09 GMT
I expect Kat will see the norns just like they are mythically portrayed, just like she saw Ankou. She sees through certain illusion, but for true mythical beings she sees them as they are. That does seem to be the case. As far as we can tell, Brinnie appears to Kat just as she does to everyone else as well.
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Post by Gemminie on Aug 3, 2020 12:54:19 GMT
That actually might be also how the Norns like to appear. Though it is important to know RoTD is different than all other etheric things we saw. It is explicitly made and sustained by 'normal' souls that used illusions to impress - which didn't work on Kat. But we don't know if that will also go with other etheric beings. She seemed to see the same as Annie with Ketrak and the Arbiter, though we can't be sure. Well the one other time Kat didn't see things the same way was inside Diego's arrow, where Annie saw a three-dimensional maze with a complex mechanism while Kat saw a hand shackle device with a lever lock. But perhaps that was another case of the Ether being used (by Diego, through his device) to make something more real.
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Post by Eily on Aug 3, 2020 13:24:41 GMT
I like how Annie pretended not to know who Brinnie is (as stated by Tom), and then turned around to start showing off her knowledge of where she comes from.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Norns wanted to meet the Annies though. The Annies have already been shown to be etherically attractive, so it's possible that having two of them would double the effect, and the time shift might be interresting to representations of time.
Also, if they're not Kat, the Norns might actually be three Annies. Or the two Annies and Boxbot.
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 3, 2020 13:30:31 GMT
Annie "Exposition" Carver, to the rescue.
Perhaps, everybody who meets the Noms sees three versions of themselves. Child, Adult, Elderly. Then again, maybe they'll appear as coding DJs using Raspberry Pis.
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Post by netherdan on Aug 3, 2020 13:33:54 GMT
I like how Annie pretended not to know who Brinnie is (as stated by Tom), and then turned around to start showing off her knowledge of where she comes from. I wouldn't be surprised if the Nornes wanted to meet the Annies though. The Annies have already been shown to be etherically attractive, so it's possible that having two of them would double the effect, and the time shift might be interresting to representations of time. Also, if they're not Kat, the Nornes might actually be three Annies. Or the two Annies and Boxbot. You can almost see their eyes going catty as they explain Norse mythos
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Post by Eily on Aug 3, 2020 13:52:13 GMT
Annie "Exposition" Carver, to the rescue. Perhaps, everybody who meets the Noms sees three versions of themselves. Child, Adult, Elderly. Then again, maybe they'll appear as coding DJs using Raspberry Pis. If the Norns are able to see this appearance, the next scene might be: Baby Norn Kat, Norn Kat, *Can't fit in the frame Norn Kat*. Norn Kat: well that's surely a first...
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 3, 2020 14:01:20 GMT
That actually might be also how the Norns like to appear. Though it is important to know RoTD is different than all other etheric things we saw. It is explicitly made and sustained by 'normal' souls that used illusions to impress - which didn't work on Kat. But we don't know if that will also go with other etheric beings. She seemed to see the same as Annie with Ketrak and the Arbiter, though we can't be sure. Well the one other time Kat didn't see things the same way was inside Diego's arrow, where Annie saw a three-dimensional maze with a complex mechanism while Kat saw a hand shackle device with a lever lock. But perhaps that was another case of the Ether being used (by Diego, through his device) to make something more real. I thought of something similar. Diego made his device so that "normal" Etheric beings - the ones he suspected would most likely try to break it - would be utterly confused and overwhelmed by what they saw. I could also imagine Diego himself never seeing the crazy maze inside his arrow, since I strongly suspect he had the same kind of vision that Kat had. So he made a lock that (he thought) could only be opened by himself, but would look unsolvable to any creature able to reach it in the first place. It is very well possible that Kat was the first living being since Diego who could have opened that lock.
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Post by bicarbonat on Aug 3, 2020 14:51:52 GMT
I'd say just like the RotD, everyone that comes along sees these huge towering scary deities (and they might also see Kat as such), and Kat just sees three old crones sitting in rocking chairs knitting a sweater. Oh my God, what if she just sees 3 Smittys of varying ages, knitting in chairs.
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 3, 2020 15:17:44 GMT
Oooor it will be in KatVision. Let's hope not.
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Post by kiapet on Aug 3, 2020 17:22:53 GMT
Shouldn't she be Anjadottir? I thought it goes mother-daughter, father-son.
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 3, 2020 18:25:26 GMT
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