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Post by arf on Jul 27, 2020 7:07:43 GMT
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Post by wies on Jul 27, 2020 7:12:03 GMT
Could be worse as response, I suppose.
Annie is unimpressed, though.
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Post by madjack on Jul 27, 2020 7:12:12 GMT
Kat status: Recovering, but still can't drag eyes away.
Panel 2 is amazing.
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Post by The Anarch on Jul 27, 2020 7:34:26 GMT
Wait, so she's legit a valkyrie? And not just that but, like, THE valkyrie?
This is basically learning your parents are old friends of a rock star.
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Post by migrantworker on Jul 27, 2020 8:13:22 GMT
That's a surprisingly subdued response, Brinnie. Did you just want to avoid making a scene in front of an old friend, or were there other reasons?
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Post by aline on Jul 27, 2020 9:19:02 GMT
That's a surprisingly subdued response, Brinnie. Did you just want to avoid making a scene in front of an old friend, or were there other reasons? Adults don't rant about relationships when the underage product of said relationship is right under their nose. I believe Brinnie would have many questions and expletives if she were alone with Anja. Also she got such a warning glare from the Annies  I'm sure Annie remembers very well Donnie's story about Brinnie's crush on her dad. |
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Post by csj on Jul 27, 2020 9:21:48 GMT
A Carver face.
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The Carverest face.
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 27, 2020 10:20:59 GMT
So, she managed to get over it (at least for now) in 3 panels. Granted, Annie dragged her back on the track.
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 27, 2020 10:54:42 GMT
Annies are not particularly amused so far.
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Post by Per on Jul 27, 2020 11:52:44 GMT
As a random note, this explains pages 539-43 a little better. Brinnie was not leaving for special lessons "with the old man", she was simply heading back to regular Chester classes because at that time they were no longer in the same house.
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Post by todd on Jul 27, 2020 12:45:29 GMT
"Sigrdrifa" is an actual alternate name of Grynhild, in the Poetic Edda (or at least, a Valkyrie linked to Sigurd; if she and Brynhild were originally separate characters, they were evidently amalgamated).
Her description of Odin as her father evidently comes from Wagner; at least, I haven't found any trace of Brynhild or the other Valkyries being Odin's daughters before the Ring Cycle. (As I've mentioned in an earlier post, there's some question over whether Brynhild was originally a Valkyrie in the mythological sense or whether she was a human warrior-woman. The "Brunhilde" of the Nibelungenlied is definitely human. The "Brinnie" of "Gunnerkrigg Court" is definitely a Valkyrie in the mythological sense.)
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 27, 2020 14:59:38 GMT
Wait, so she's legit a valkyrie? And not just that but, like, THE valkyrie? This is basically learning your parents are old friends of a rock star. I've been wondering if Brinnie became a kid to take classes at Court as some sort of exchange program (we teach your people combat magic and train them in it, you teach us science stuff and about the modern world). That'd put a weird spin on her attraction to Anthony but perhaps she just wanted the boyfriend experience since she was hanging out with kids who were dating and Anthony was conveniently available. It is part of "normal" growing up, I guess. |
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 27, 2020 15:17:51 GMT
Wait, so she's legit a valkyrie? And not just that but, like, THE valkyrie? This is basically learning your parents are old friends of a rock star. I've been wondering if Brinnie became a kid to take classes at Court as some sort of exchange program (we teach your people combat magic and train them in it, you teach us science stuff and about the modern world). That'd put a weird spin on her attraction to Anthony but perhaps she just wanted the boyfriend experience since she was hanging out with kids who were dating and Anthony was conveniently available. It is part of "normal" growing up, I guess. Perhaps, part of her punishment was being transformed into a young girl. If she was stuck in that form, her attraction to Anthony could be chalked up to hormones. They can do "the crazy" to your brain, no matter how much life experience you have. |
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Post by speedwell on Jul 27, 2020 15:21:48 GMT
I've been wondering if Brinnie became a kid to take classes at Court as some sort of exchange program (we teach your people combat magic and train them in it, you teach us science stuff and about the modern world). That'd put a weird spin on her attraction to Anthony but perhaps she just wanted the boyfriend experience since she was hanging out with kids who were dating and Anthony was conveniently available. It is part of "normal" growing up, I guess. Perhaps, part of her punishment was being transformed into a young girl. If she was stuck in that form, her attraction to Anthony could be chalked up to hormones. They can do "the crazy" to your brain, no matter how much life experience you have. She was a young girl. It's more of that wonky "time has no meaning in Fairyland" stuff we're becoming a bit too used to, heh. She has yet, evidently, to have the storied romantic troubles of her own. It is easy to forget that Ragnarok is in the future. About the hormones and crazy-making, I can say it in four words. Thank God For Menopause  |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 27, 2020 15:58:15 GMT
Maybe she's under a curse from Odin and has to live as a mortal, seeking a fearless human to marry... and then another and another as they eventually wear out, so she gets de-aged/lolified after they pass so she can start the search over. If that's the case the Court may have found her while recruiting etherically gifted kids and may have started the collaboration a generation or more before the kids met her. The "devoid of emotion" appearing Anthony might have seemed like a candidate for fearless husband.
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Post by bedinsis on Jul 27, 2020 16:43:16 GMT
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Post by Eversist on Jul 27, 2020 18:50:55 GMT
Am I the only one to notice that the collar of Anja's uniform in the last frame is different from Surma's and Brinnie's? Yes, you are the only one.  (I noticed but didn't make the effort to post about it. While Anja's is new, the three of them are wearing variations of the same uniform; maybe Tom just felt like spicing it up on this page.) Are you really *the* Coyote? |
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Post by Trillium on Jul 27, 2020 19:02:48 GMT
Nice catch. Or an in between space where they meet and talk. Time might be suspended there. Hopefully no one can interrupt their catching up and girl talk. |
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Post by wies on Jul 27, 2020 20:05:21 GMT
I kinda want to see Jones and Brinnie meeting each other. Can you imagine the conversation?
"Aiieeee, miss Jonesy!"
"Just Jones will do."
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Post by speedwell on Jul 27, 2020 21:39:14 GMT
Am I the only one to notice that the collar of Anja's uniform in the last frame is different from Surma's and Brinnie's? The collar of a blazer jacket is different from the collar of a knitted jumper? Someone fetch me my smelling salts and a mint julep  No, seriously, schools in the British Isles have both jackets and sweaters in the standard uniform, though my husband's niece and nephews don't seem to wear the jackets that much (in Northern Ireland). I would have expected some sort of lapel on the jacket, though. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Jul 27, 2020 22:38:16 GMT
I wonder if "Kill Da Wabbit" annoys her or if she sees it as an "Actually Pretty Funny" tribute.
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Post by speedwell on Jul 27, 2020 22:57:10 GMT
I wonder if "Kill Da Wabbit" annoys her or if she sees it as an "Actually Pretty Funny" tribute. Heh, it's not a parody of her, it's a parody of German Romanticism. She probably wishes she'd thought of it first |
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Post by Draxiss on Jul 27, 2020 23:18:17 GMT
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that traditional Norse poems have been around for quite a long time. Doesn't that make Brinnie . . . that many years old? Did Brinnie disguise herself as a child at the school? Was she actually thousands of years old when she was trying to date Anthony? Do offspring of Odin have a really, REALLY fast maturation phase after spending thousands of years as a child? Did she emerge from a cocoon? Is she another time traveler and that's why she's in the old stories?
Did she spin a cocoon and transform directly from child to adult?
Actually hey I guess her being a time traveler would make sense for this. Odin lays Brinnie as an egg in the recent past, Brinnie hatches and is raised at Gunnerkrigg Court for some amount of time, and later at some point in her adult life she travels back in time to do the stuff in the Norse poems. Edit: Anja recognizes that Brinnie might know more about time travel and bring her on to help Kat out.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 27, 2020 23:42:58 GMT
Doesn't that make Brinnie . . . Really old? Looks like it. Immensely old? Possibly. Previously disguised? Maybe. Magical? Yep. Rejuvenating? Why not. Quick maturation after long adolescence? Could be. Chrysalis stages? Unlikely. Time traveler? Not impossible. Hatchling? Doesn't seem necessary. |
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Post by todd on Jul 28, 2020 0:09:13 GMT
And there's the business of Brynhild's death being recorded in the Eddas, written centuries ago - in spite of which she's still alive.
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Post by netherdan on Jul 28, 2020 2:19:07 GMT
I've been wondering if Brinnie became a kid to take classes at Court as some sort of exchange program (we teach your people combat magic and train them in it, you teach us science stuff and about the modern world). That'd put a weird spin on her attraction to Anthony but perhaps she just wanted the boyfriend experience since she was hanging out with kids who were dating and Anthony was conveniently available. It is part of "normal" growing up, I guess. Hey, if you're bringing age gap into this I'm obliged to point at Jones and any of her relationships (she doesn't seem to reciprocate on the romantic part of them, though). But if the problem is the centuries old valkyrie dating a teenager, you can handwaive it as she being subject to the same hormone rush as the other teens (as pointed out by wassername) since she was in teenage form (possibly as part of her punishment) |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 28, 2020 3:47:35 GMT
I've been wondering if Brinnie became a kid to take classes at Court as some sort of exchange program (we teach your people combat magic and train them in it, you teach us science stuff and about the modern world). That'd put a weird spin on her attraction to Anthony but perhaps she just wanted the boyfriend experience since she was hanging out with kids who were dating and Anthony was conveniently available. It is part of "normal" growing up, I guess. Hey, if you're bringing age gap into this I'm obliged to point at Jones and any of her relationships (she doesn't seem to reciprocate on the romantic part of them, though). But if the problem is the centuries old valkyrie dating a teenager, you can handwaive it as she being subject to the same hormone rush as the other teens (as pointed out by wassername) since she was in teenage form (possibly as part of her punishment) [ponders how to discuss this without reigniting the dormant shipping fans] It's certainly true that the mind being the plaything of the body has been a long-running theme of the comic. I hypothesize that if Jones is an idealized woman then there should be an idealized man around somewhere, but even so she's unique so I don't think I can accept the comparison. That aside there are probably a lot of cross-species/class/whatever pairings in the Gunnerverse so even if Brinnie is the goddess-queen of cougar-kind or long-prophesied dragon-born of GGGGGILFs it wouldn't be THAT unusual. And it may also be the case that Brinnie never had any romantic interest in Anthony and she just wanted an accessory so that she could hang out with her friends and not be the fifth-wheel... or she noticed the other kids were pairing up and she was feeling excluded, and wanted to feel validated but the other fifth-wheel wasn't rotating as he should be if he found her attractive and saw that she was available, even when she started making it obvious that she might be open to the idea. Furthermore, if Brinnie was supposed to be looking for a romantic partner as a youth (say, because of a curse or something) we can just appeal to magic to fix any of the pesky mental/emotional maturity mismatch issues. Even so, I can't help but wonder if in order for this* to work a big chunk of Brinnie's mind and memories would have to be suppressed. * "This" meaning Brinnie actually being romantically interested in Anthony way back when. |
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Post by Gemminie on Jul 28, 2020 4:03:51 GMT
Nice catch. Or an in between space where they meet and talk. Time might be suspended there. Hopefully no one can interrupt their catching up and girl talk. That's kind of related to what I'm wondering. Where are they? If Anja could have called upon her demigoddess friend at any time, haven't there been times when she might have wanted to do that? Unless the Brinnie-summoning valknut gadget doesn't actually summon her, per se -- what if it transports everyone involved to a pocket dimension to talk, and that's the only way Brinnie's allowed to speak to her old school friends? What if Brinnie lives in Mythic Ancient Asgard/Valhalla, and she's not allowed to go to Midgard except on official Valkyrie business, but she is allowed to go to the Conversation Dimension and meet up with old classmates? Thus she could give advice and catch up on the news, but she couldn't intervene directly. Hence some of that advice could be how one goes about traveling through time, since she can clearly do that. |
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Post by blahzor on Jul 28, 2020 12:29:43 GMT
Nice catch. Or an in between space where they meet and talk. Time might be suspended there. Hopefully no one can interrupt their catching up and girl talk. That's kind of related to what I'm wondering. Where are they? If Anja could have called upon her demigoddess friend at any time, haven't there been times when she might have wanted to do that? Unless the Brinnie-summoning valknut gadget doesn't actually summon her, per se -- what if it transports everyone involved to a pocket dimension to talk, and that's the only way Brinnie's allowed to speak to her old school friends? What if Brinnie lives in Mythic Ancient Asgard/Valhalla, and she's not allowed to go to Midgard except on official Valkyrie business, but she is allowed to go to the Conversation Dimension and meet up with old classmates? Thus she could give advice and catch up on the news, but she couldn't intervene directly. Hence some of that advice could be how one goes about traveling through time, since she can clearly do that. if she was immortal time has no meaning to her like Coyote forgot how long people lie when Surma died and he met Annie. Her leaving them behind would probably feel like a day or a month. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 28, 2020 12:56:16 GMT
I hypothesize that if Jones is an idealized woman then there should be an idealized man around somewhere, but even so she's unique so I don't think I can accept the comparison. The idealized woman has no creativity and no capability of emotional connection? |
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I'm sure Annie remembers very well Donnie's story about Brinnie's crush on her dad.
