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Post by arkadi on Jul 24, 2020 12:09:41 GMT
Brinnie's face is everything I wanted and more  And again, the contrasting reactions to Annie's "shift": while Kat has been freaking out about it from the moment of the reveal, the etheric/otherworldly peeps (first the translator guy and now Brinnie), who would appear to know more, seem to be pretty casual about it. Hmmm... |
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Post by wies on Jul 24, 2020 12:35:14 GMT
Probably because they are accustomed to even more unusual stuff.
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Post by getawaysubmarine on Jul 24, 2020 13:36:43 GMT
We're never lacking in perfect reaction faces! This comic is the gift that keeps on giving.
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 24, 2020 13:47:18 GMT
Next page: "Oh! In that case, how awkward! Hahaha! AHAHA HAHAHA HAHA!" This seems to be a common reaction to that particular bit of news. Indeed but in this case there's the added bonus of "and how/why did that happen when he didn't show any interest in ME!?"  And then she gets told "Duh, Surma just asked him out." I'm not an expert, but her English brokage feels more Latin than Germanic to me. It's definitely not the mistakes a native German speaker would make. |
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Post by wies on Jul 24, 2020 14:08:01 GMT
It's definitely not the mistakes a native German speaker would make. What mistakes would such a speaker make? |
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 24, 2020 14:58:11 GMT
That is a Face that says, "How much changed, and how bad did things get while I was away?" I'm sure Brinnie's reaction is just because she realized that James was single all this time. Was being the keyword. Sorry Brinnie you're a bit late. I hope she's (mostly) over her story with Tony though. As much as I don't like the guy, coming back after decades and being mad at someone because you failed to peer pressure them into a date is bad for your skin. It looks to me, like she's trying to keep from laughing. She may crack up and start belly-laughing, in the next comic |
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Post by speedwell on Jul 24, 2020 15:01:29 GMT
That is a Face that says, "How much changed, and how bad did things get while I was away?" I'm sure Brinnie's reaction is just because she realized that James was single all this time. Was being the keyword. Sorry Brinnie you're a bit late. I hope she's (mostly) over her story with Tony though. As much as I don't like the guy, coming back after decades and being mad at someone because you failed to peer pressure them into a date is bad for your skin. It looks to me, like she's trying to keep from laughing. She may crack up and start belly-laughing, in the next comic I think so too  The reason I like Brinnie is that she heard about her dear childhood friend's passing, and her first thought was not to feel shock or distress for herself, but pity for the teenage daughters. |
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Post by stef1987 on Jul 24, 2020 15:03:12 GMT
Wow, so her friends haven't contacted Brinnie since before Surma and Anthony got together? That's cold
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Post by DonDueed on Jul 24, 2020 15:13:53 GMT
It's definitely not the mistakes a native German speaker would make. What mistakes would such a speaker make? Invading Poland? |
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Post by saardvark on Jul 24, 2020 15:35:10 GMT
What mistakes would such a speaker make? Invading Poland? nah, everybody invades Poland. Invading Russia was the biggest mistake. No-one gets that right; even that short French dude couldn't manage to pull it off.... |
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Post by wynne on Jul 24, 2020 15:35:30 GMT
A moment of appreciation for Kat continuing to be Adora from She-Ra.
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Post by rimwolf on Jul 24, 2020 15:44:18 GMT
It's definitely not the mistakes a native German speaker would make. Perhaps, but a speaker of a Scandinavian language might well use the constructs in panels 1 and 2. They're both instances of topicalization, which is apparently a notable syntactic feature of Norwegian, Swedish, and Danish. |
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Post by bicarbonat on Jul 24, 2020 15:56:17 GMT
I love this game
Ask another loaded question, B
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Post by aline on Jul 24, 2020 15:57:02 GMT
Haha! Brinnie needs an update on the latest gossip, I see
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Post by jda on Jul 24, 2020 16:03:06 GMT
I think Brinnie, while saddened, would understand the inevitabliity of Surma's fate in a Demi-god sort of way... but there is a twist... Brin: ... and our dear Surma... had beautiful twins!? [massive hugs on Annies] Brin: ...but how is that possible? Anja: ... well, we thought maybe you could help us a bit with that. You see what actually happened was....... Another question is whether she will manifest the same sort of hang-ups as Eglamore used to have. Though unlikely IMHO. I suppose some partial cookies are in order? Only if she holds Annie/s as the culprit of "robbing her Tony" |
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 24, 2020 19:08:15 GMT
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, right? And no venom like a teen baby-talked to. =) Now we'll know how good Annie's restraint currently is. What's with stakes including at least Kat's sanity. |
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Post by bedinsis on Jul 24, 2020 19:17:55 GMT
nah, everybody invades Poland. Invading Russia was the biggest mistake. No-one gets that right; even that short French dude couldn't manage to pull it off.... What about the Mongols? |
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Post by avurai on Jul 24, 2020 21:01:48 GMT
nah, everybody invades Poland. Invading Russia was the biggest mistake. No-one gets that right; even that short French dude couldn't manage to pull it off.... What about the Mongols? The Mongols are the exception to every rule. |
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Post by mturtle7 on Jul 24, 2020 23:33:36 GMT
Three thoughts on this page:
I think Brinnie's face in that last panel may be the most...UNIQUE facial expression I've ever seen Tom draw in this comic. If I had to nail down what that expression says to me, it's something like, "...This is a joke, right? This HAS to be a joke. Okay, hilarious, you got me, hahaha. But even so, I HATE you for making me even contemplate that horrifying hypothetical scenario for even a MOMENT as if it was actual truth."
Also, I have to say it was kind of jarring learning that Brinnie probably hasn't gotten a real talk with Anja since before Tony and Surma even got together, but then then I remembered that Tony and Surma literally just disappeared without warning for more than a decade. Compared to that, Brinnie's exit from the group was probably pretty gentle. And honestly, keeping in touch with friends from high school is usually difficult at best, and far more so when the friend is busy in some sort of mythological Norse other-realm or whatever.
Finally, I really appreciate the reminder in the 4th & 5th panels that, once again, Annie being time-shifted into 2 selves is just not that weird. Or rather, it's pretty weird in the outside world, but here in Gunnerkrigg (the place, not the comic) it probably falls squarely into the "uncommon" category, the sort of unexplainable phenomenon that lots of people might avoid entirely but will almost certainly come up once in a while for all of the more adventurous types who like to explore. We've already gotten a glimpse in chapters like Faraway Morning and Torn Sea of the fact that the world here simply doesn't revolve around the protagonists...plenty of other kids are meeting ghosts and gods and such-like on at least a semi-regular basis. It's all really new and amazing when you're a kid, and slightly less so when you're a teenager, but then for someone who's been at GC for as long as Brinnie, Anja, or Surma, it's really not worth dwelling on. And that makes Kat's latest freak-out over the Annies seem all the more...revealing, about her unique qualities as a person.
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Post by Trillium on Jul 25, 2020 0:39:54 GMT
It's always fun when old friends get a chance to catch up.
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 25, 2020 3:00:59 GMT
nah, everybody invades Poland. Invading Russia was the biggest mistake. No-one gets that right; even that short French dude couldn't manage to pull it off.... What about the Mongols? That was very limited, closer to a retributive raid. No getting bogged down. A few Russian Princes came to help their enemies (many Cuman tribes were traditionally allied to "their" Princes, it was a "too good to pass" deal), lost one battle and ran. But they also killed envoys, and Mongols had a very consistent policy for such cases. Thus had to take a big detour and attack their cities. These guys were so obnoxious that even while they were allied, couldn't agree which one gets to command, so unsurprisingly nobody else moved a finger including their distant relatives, and the nearby villagers just shrugged and sold supplies to Mongols. Once these guys and anyone deemed their assistant were all dead, Mongols just rode off and returned to the big campaign, which was chasing their ancestral enemies all the way to Adriatic Sea. |
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Post by phantaskippy on Jul 25, 2020 4:28:05 GMT
ALL OF THE FACES.
Kat in panel 1.
Anja in panel 2.
the Annies and the development from panel 4 to 6.
Brinnie in literally every panel.
The excitement, the stare of knowing, the cutest face, and The Face.
This is one of the best pages in the whole story.
I think Brinnies reaction comes from a pretty solid understanding of just how inconceivable that relationship was before Surma and Tony went on that trip, and probably a good guess at the amount of drama it caused.
I don't think we'll see her interested in Tony, her character has never come across as one that brooded or pined.
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Post by Sauzels on Jul 25, 2020 9:24:23 GMT
Also, panel 4 is interesting. Since it could mean etheric vision is not a passive ability for Brinnie, but something she has to activate. So maybe she would see Robogoddess Kat if she used it on her? I get the sense that it's not exactly the ether she's looking at there, but some sort of valkyrie-specific power that lets her view certain records of people, sort of in the same vein as the identifying symbols seen in the ROTD, since valkyries proooobably need to know a lot about people. Although evidently not lineage. Which is surprising given the importance of lineage in old Norse culture. So I may be wrong here. I also don't think robo-angel appears just any time you look at Kat in the ether, given that Annie's only seen it the one time. Not even exploring the ROTD brought it out. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 25, 2020 12:56:22 GMT
It's definitely not the mistakes a native German speaker would make. What mistakes would such a speaker make? In my experience, mostly pronounciation mistakes. But normally not the word order, because it's basically the same in German and English. [edit]Turns out I did not really think when writing this. Of course it's not the same.[/edit]
Rather, using the wrong word because they sound/read similar, but mean different things in either language. (English "sensitive" = German "sensibel", but English "sensible" = German "vernünftig", for example)
It's definitely not the mistakes a native German speaker would make. Perhaps, but a speaker of a Scandinavian language might well use the constructs in panels 1 and 2. They're both instances of topicalization, which is apparently a notable syntactic feature of Norwegian, Swedish, and Danish.[/quote]That's why I explicitly said "German", not "Germanic".  |
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Post by saardvark on Jul 25, 2020 14:00:42 GMT
nah, everybody invades Poland. Invading Russia was the biggest mistake. No-one gets that right; even that short French dude couldn't manage to pull it off.... What about the Mongols? I had thought about that, but "Russia" wasn't really our Russia at the time of the Mongols; our Russia as such hadn't formed yet. It was all split up into petty principalities and states: Republic of Novgorod, Great Principality of Vladimir, Principalities of Chernigov, Raizan, Kiev, Smolensk, Volhynia.... |
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Post by wies on Jul 25, 2020 20:29:26 GMT
Is it correct to see the reaction out of Kiev to drive the Mongols away as the start of the state of Russia as we know it now?
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Post by Runningflame on Jul 25, 2020 20:40:26 GMT
But normally not the word order, because it's basically the same in German and English. There must I with you disagree. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 26, 2020 2:01:17 GMT
But normally not the word order, because it's basically the same in German and English. There must I with you disagree. You are right, there are differences I just did not realize. Perhaps I am just too used to speaking English without havong to think about it. Although I stand by my statement that most errors I notice other Germans making when speaking English are pronounciation and using the wrong word. |
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Post by saardvark on Jul 26, 2020 2:50:27 GMT
Is it correct to see the reaction out of Kiev to drive the Mongols away as the start of the state of Russia as we know it now? I'd say it was a step in that direction, a feeling that all the principalities are "in this together", but shortly after (if Im understanding your time reference), Kiev was swallowed up, first by the Mongols (Golden Horde), and later by Lithuania. I think I'd peg the real beginning of the Russian state to Ivan the Great, his annexation of Novgorod and his refusal to pay tribute to the Golden Horde and then the repulse of their retaliatory invasion. I think that really solidified a proto-Russian state (tho I think it was the "Great Principality of Moscow" at that point). Im not really a Russian history expert tho... |
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Post by wies on Jul 26, 2020 6:07:13 GMT
I am not a russian history expert either. I clearly confused Moscow with Kiev as the city that came to rule after the Mongols. Thank you for explaining.
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