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Post by justhalf on Jul 20, 2020 7:02:29 GMT
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jul 20, 2020 7:03:46 GMT
Anyone have a translation for what she's saying? It's probably just some old formal greeting, but it must be fun to know  |
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Post by philman on Jul 20, 2020 7:04:33 GMT
Huh, so Brinnie is Icelandic? Or just speaking very very old norse I guess.
I can gather some of the words from my rudimentry swedish, although this is not swedish, but am coming up short on "nipt".
"greetings of the day, greetings of the night and "nipt??", greedings of the sons of day..."
EDIT: Ah I see from others below that I was right on the old norse, and at least some of it makes sense in my rudimentary modern scandinavian too!
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Post by soulofthereaver on Jul 20, 2020 7:07:33 GMT
It's Old Norse. The full greeting is like this:
Translation:
Edit: this is a speech made (appropriately enough) by the Valkyrie Brynhildr, described by her epithet Sigrdrifa (driver to victory) in the Poetic Edda. Specifically, as speedwell pointed out below, it's from the section known as the Sigrdrífumál, and relates Sigurðr's encounter with Brynhildr.
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Post by speedwell on Jul 20, 2020 7:10:24 GMT
From the Sigrdrífumál. It means "Hail Dag, Hail Dag's sons, Hail Nat and Nipt!" A poet's way of saying, "Good morning, hello all of the children of the day, and I hope you have a good night too". Except the poem goes on after that invocation to the god Dag and the goddesses Nat and Nipt to request aid for victory and virtue; it's quite a pure and lovely set of stanzas.
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 20, 2020 7:12:49 GMT
She already looks much younger than Anja, but the last panel de-aged her again by about ten years.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 20, 2020 7:15:33 GMT
From the Sigrdrífumál. It means "Hail Dag, Hail Dag's sons, Hail Nat and Nipt!" A poet's way of saying, "Good morning, hello all of the children of the day, and I hope you have a good night too". Except the poem goes on after that invocation to the god Dag and the goddesses Nat and Nipt to request aid for victory and virtue; it's quite a pure and lovely set of stanzas. Couldn't remember so I had to google it. And then on a wild hunch I typed it into google translate. Here is a screen shot.  Ah, google... what would we do without you? |
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Post by speedwell on Jul 20, 2020 7:17:17 GMT
From the Sigrdrífumál. It means "Hail Dag, Hail Dag's sons, Hail Nat and Nipt!" A poet's way of saying, "Good morning, hello all of the children of the day, and I hope you have a good night too". Except the poem goes on after that invocation to the god Dag and the goddesses Nat and Nipt to request aid for victory and virtue; it's quite a pure and lovely set of stanzas. Couldn't remember so I had to google it. And then on a wild hunch I typed it into google translate. Here is a screen shot. Ah, google... what would we do without you? I literally just laughed so hard I scared the cat. Well played |
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Post by soulofthereaver on Jul 20, 2020 7:22:05 GMT
Couldn't remember so I had to google it. And then on a wild hunch I typed it into google translate. Here is a screen shot. Ah, google... what would we do without you? I literally just laughed so hard I scared the cat. Well played Funny thing is, it's not even exactly wrong. See the first picture in the article:
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Post by stclair on Jul 20, 2020 7:23:49 GMT
From the Sigrdrífumál. It means "Hail Dag, Hail Dag's sons, Hail Nat and Nipt!" A poet's way of saying, "Good morning, hello all of the children of the day, and I hope you have a good night too". Except the poem goes on after that invocation to the god Dag and the goddesses Nat and Nipt to request aid for victory and virtue; it's quite a pure and lovely set of stanzas. Couldn't remember so I had to google it. And then on a wild hunch I typed it into google translate. Here is a screen shot. View AttachmentAh, google... what would we do without you? per a rather old (as these things go) webcomic, "We wondered about stuff for about an hour and then forgot it." |
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Post by csj on Jul 20, 2020 8:05:14 GMT
attaedda girl Ah, google... what would we do without you? In fairness, Icelandic is the closest extant language to Old Norse, so it tried its best.  |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 20, 2020 8:19:18 GMT
It just occurred to me that the stanza ends with "give victory to the sitting." Probably nothing to do with why they're standing, though. Ah, google... what would we do without you? In fairness, Icelandic is the closest extant language to Old Norse, so it tried its best. I think it did a wonderful job. If I ever pen my memoirs that will be the title. |
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Post by wies on Jul 20, 2020 8:19:53 GMT
I love we get a glimpse beyond the Forest how the gods are functioning in this Age. Brinnie here seemed to have expected something like a customer, someone in need of a walkure, which would mean the walkure business is still running.
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Post by arf on Jul 20, 2020 8:49:36 GMT
I literally just laughed so hard I scared the cat. Well played Funny thing is, it's not even exactly wrong. See the first picture in the article: ... which seg(fried)ues naturally into Amanda Palmer's sung note to the Daily Mail (hilarious satire, if a trifle NSFW) In its early days, the webcomic "Stand Still. Stay Silent" had as a running joke the incompatibilities between the various Scandinavian languages (with Finnish being the real outlier). It probably culminated in the naming of a stray cat (all varieties of "Kitty"). |
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Post by philman on Jul 20, 2020 9:16:24 GMT
Funny thing is, it's not even exactly wrong. See the first picture in the article: ... which seg(fried)ues naturally into Amanda Palmer's sung note to the Daily Mail (hilarious satire, if a trifle NSFW) In its early days, the webcomic "Stand Still. Stay Silent" had as a running joke the incompatibilities between the various Scandinavian languages (with Finnish being the real outlier). It probably culminated in the naming of a stray cat (all varieties of "Kitty"). SSSS is a great comic. They do still play up the language problems, even in today's comic, although now that some of the characters have half-learned some of the other languages it's more about understanding a few words but completely missing the tone. |
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Post by migrantworker on Jul 20, 2020 9:28:46 GMT
Bit of a shame Parley is not around. She and Brinnie would probably get along well.
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Post by arf on Jul 20, 2020 10:37:56 GMT
Bit of a shame Parley is not around. She and Brinnie would probably get along well. Give it time. Like I said earlier, Eglamore got his emergency beacon from *somewhere*. |
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Post by arf on Jul 20, 2020 10:39:33 GMT
... which seg(fried)ues naturally into Amanda Palmer's sung note to the Daily Mail (hilarious satire, if a trifle NSFW) In its early days, the webcomic "Stand Still. Stay Silent" had as a running joke the incompatibilities between the various Scandinavian languages (with Finnish being the real outlier). It probably culminated in the naming of a stray cat (all varieties of "Kitty"). SSSS is a great comic. They do still play up the language problems, even in today's comic, although now that some of the characters have half-learned some of the other languages it's more about understanding a few words but completely missing the tone. Indeed, although I'm not sure why Lalli wasn't reading the Finnish road signs (he can read). |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jul 20, 2020 11:29:32 GMT
Funny thing is, it's not even exactly wrong. See the first picture in the article: ... which seg(fried)ues naturally into Amanda Palmer's sung note to the Daily Mail (hilarious satire, if a trifle NSFW) In its early days, the webcomic "Stand Still. Stay Silent" had as a running joke the incompatibilities between the various Scandinavian languages (with Finnish being the real outlier). It probably culminated in the naming of a stray cat (all varieties of "Kitty"). Oh no, what did you do, giving me another wonderful webcomic to read all the way through!! Also, having just read the first 10 pages, I had to check the date they were published. Speaking of Iceland going into lockdown due to an infectious illness that is especially dangerous to old people, young people and "apparently fat people?"... prophetic words coming from 2013. BTW, I have no idea how this story continues, so no spoilers! |
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Post by crater on Jul 20, 2020 11:44:52 GMT
is it me or is Eglamore looking kinda.... feminine these days...?
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Post by saardvark on Jul 20, 2020 11:49:12 GMT
Funny thing is, it's not even exactly wrong. See the first picture in the article: ... which seg(fried)ues naturally into Amanda Palmer's sung note to the Daily Mail (hilarious satire, if a trifle NSFW) In its early days, the webcomic "Stand Still. Stay Silent" had as a running joke the incompatibilities between the various Scandinavian languages (with Finnish being the real outlier). It probably culminated in the naming of a stray cat (all varieties of "Kitty"). well, Finnish isn't Indo-European - it isn't even in the same language family as the others. Very different structurally. I lived there a few summers, and tried to learn a bit, but found it very difficult ... Example: English: 3 = three, German: drei, Spanish: tres.... kinda similar, all Indo-European. Finnish: kolmi. Really unrelated.... |
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Post by arf on Jul 20, 2020 11:57:15 GMT
... which seg(fried)ues naturally into Amanda Palmer's sung note to the Daily Mail (hilarious satire, if a trifle NSFW) In its early days, the webcomic "Stand Still. Stay Silent" had as a running joke the incompatibilities between the various Scandinavian languages (with Finnish being the real outlier). It probably culminated in the naming of a stray cat (all varieties of "Kitty"). Oh no, what did you do, giving me another wonderful webcomic to read all the way through!! Also, having just read the first 10 pages, I had to check the date they were published. Speaking of Iceland going into lockdown due to an infectious illness that is especially dangerous to old people, young people and "apparently fat people?"... prophetic words coming from 2013. BTW, I have no idea how this story continues, so no spoilers! Ah yes. I should have warned folk about that part, which does get eerily close to home at times. Sorry! |
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Post by todd on Jul 20, 2020 12:42:38 GMT
Brinnie's (apparent) transformation in the last panel reminded me of a new graphic novel series called "The Mythics" where a group of gods (one of whom is a Norse goddess - though Freya, rather than Brynhild, if a rather Valkyrie-ish Freya) return to the modern world to advise the main characters for a world-saving mission, and transform into chibi-versions of themselves when they manifest in it.
And that is fitting, that Brinnie's words at the start are an actual quote of a speech by her mythical original in the Eddas.
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Post by getawaysubmarine on Jul 20, 2020 13:00:00 GMT
Paging the "I saw an opportunity" crew, we've got a new exploitable in panel 3.
On the subject of the comic itself, I wonder if Brinnie will need to be caught up on current events in the Court (possibly necessitating another "she does" panel), or if she's been able to keep up during any downtime she has while at work.
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Post by philman on Jul 20, 2020 14:01:43 GMT
She's going to have someone's eye out throwing her spear away like that.
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Post by Gemminie on Jul 20, 2020 14:07:27 GMT
Brinnie's just so happy to see Anja, it makes me smile! Deadly serious to excitedly happy in under one second. I wonder what her reaction will be to the fact that Anja has a daughter – did she know? And that Surma had a daughter, meaning that she's gone … or perhaps Surma was kind of reincarnated in a way … or that they're doubled … or that neither of them belongs in this timeline …
Anyway, if she's reacting like that to just seeing Anja, I look forward to her reactions to all the rest of this!
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 20, 2020 15:05:49 GMT
I love we get a glimpse beyond the Forest how the gods are functioning in this Age. Brinnie here seemed to have expected something like a customer, someone in need of a walkure, which would mean the walkure business is still running. If so, I wouldn't want to find out the fee for cancellations. |
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Post by bedinsis on Jul 20, 2020 16:39:34 GMT
This thread makes me wonder what the various posters around here's native languages are.
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 20, 2020 16:47:56 GMT
This thread makes me wonder what the various posters around here's native languages are. Me too! Do you want to make a thread for asking, or can I? |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 20, 2020 16:50:57 GMT
... which seg(fried)ues naturally into Amanda Palmer's sung note to the Daily Mail (hilarious satire, if a trifle NSFW) In its early days, the webcomic "Stand Still. Stay Silent" had as a running joke the incompatibilities between the various Scandinavian languages (with Finnish being the real outlier). It probably culminated in the naming of a stray cat (all varieties of "Kitty"). well, Finnish isn't Indo-European - it isn't even in the same language family as the others. Very different structurally. I lived there a few summers, and tried to learn a bit, but found it very difficult ... Example: English: 3 = three, German: drei, Spanish: tres.... kinda similar, all Indo-European. Finnish: kolmi. Really unrelated.... Yes, AFAIK the only living language Finnish is related to is Hungarian (and Klingon, probably). |
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