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Post by warrl on Jun 20, 2020 0:40:57 GMT
...are you, by any chance, a dedicated part of the Lackadaisy fanbase? Because unless I miss my guess, that particular turn of phrase literally ONLY makes sense in the context of this old mini-comic (and even then, it only sort of makes sense, in an intuitive kind of way). My mind went to a line from a certain filk of the stalker song...
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Post by crater on Jun 20, 2020 1:00:25 GMT
thats a weird looking bong
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Post by Eversist on Jun 20, 2020 4:11:54 GMT
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Post by Sky Schemer on Jun 20, 2020 5:41:33 GMT
Blaming all of this on the Tic-toc's existence is completely arbitrary. You misspelled "hilarious".
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Post by myzelf on Jun 20, 2020 12:14:30 GMT
D'aww
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 21, 2020 3:13:33 GMT
thats a weird looking bong Most of the time it just ticks; it only bongs on the hour.
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Post by jda on Jun 21, 2020 6:43:21 GMT
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Post by saardvark on Jun 21, 2020 12:59:16 GMT
Maybe Kat has the Tictocs studying Zimms longterm to quantify and map out her "spatio-*temporal* distortion field". They dump their data into Anja's computer, for retrieval in the present, so Kat learns how to do time travel using the Zimmster's distortion field and send the Tocs back in time.... Kat and Anja need to pour over the data stored in Anja's computer, to find the Toc-time-travel-tips subdirectory which mysteriously appeared recently.
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Post by philman on Jun 22, 2020 7:13:06 GMT
Sure, but Annie was the one who broke the stalemate by removing the one thing (Jeanne) preventing each side from attacking each other directly. And if the Tic toc didn't save Annie then the stalemate would have persisted And if Shadow 2 hadn't followed Annie, she wouldn't have pieced Robot's body back together, and wouldn't have gone onto the bridge when Robot returned, hadn't fallen down and met Jeanne, or discovered Jeanne's shrine (the door to which was opened by Robot). If Robot had decided to immediately return to the Court, Ysengrin could not have planted the seed into him and Annie wouldn't have gone onto the bridge and [see above]. If that teacher would have believed Annie, Shadow 2 might have been brought to the Forest by other means and Robot would have never been reactivated and [see above]. If Renard would have been more polite, Annie wouldn't have forbidden him to speak and he could have kept her from going onto the bridge and [see above]. If Anja hadn't given Kat the key to the old laboratory, Annie wouldn't have found Jeanne's shrine. If Coyote hadn't been playing his game with Ysengrin, Loup would have never sprung into being and attacked the Court. If the psychopomps hadn't wanted Annie to do their job and bring Jeanne into the Ether, and hadn't pushed her into this direction, she might have never succeeded in actually doing it. And so on and so on. Blaming all of this on the Tic-toc's existence is completely arbitrary. The difference being that all those "ifs" you stated involve Annie. Annie is the catalyst that caused all those other events to happen. If Annie died in the beginning, and wasn't saved by the tic tocs, none of those other events would have been put into motion in the first place.
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Post by DonDueed on Jun 22, 2020 12:06:20 GMT
And if Shadow 2 hadn't followed Annie, she wouldn't have pieced Robot's body back together, and wouldn't have gone onto the bridge when Robot returned, hadn't fallen down and met Jeanne, or discovered Jeanne's shrine (the door to which was opened by Robot). If Robot had decided to immediately return to the Court, Ysengrin could not have planted the seed into him and Annie wouldn't have gone onto the bridge and [see above]. If that teacher would have believed Annie, Shadow 2 might have been brought to the Forest by other means and Robot would have never been reactivated and [see above]. If Renard would have been more polite, Annie wouldn't have forbidden him to speak and he could have kept her from going onto the bridge and [see above]. If Anja hadn't given Kat the key to the old laboratory, Annie wouldn't have found Jeanne's shrine. If Coyote hadn't been playing his game with Ysengrin, Loup would have never sprung into being and attacked the Court. If the psychopomps hadn't wanted Annie to do their job and bring Jeanne into the Ether, and hadn't pushed her into this direction, she might have never succeeded in actually doing it. And so on and so on. Blaming all of this on the Tic-toc's existence is completely arbitrary. The difference being that all those "ifs" you stated involve Annie. Annie is the catalyst that caused all those other events to happen. If Annie died in the beginning, and wasn't saved by the tic tocs, none of those other events would have been put into motion in the first place. But the nexus seems to be the Fall of Annie, when she was saved by the Tic-Tocs. The first few events in the list above occurred before that nexus, so pyradonis' point stands. Even without the robirds Annie could have avoided her potential doom in Annan Gorge. For that matter, even if she had died the Court-Forest conflict could have erupted anyway, possibly even caused by the very fact of her death! Thus there were plenty of other things that could have upset the Court-Forest equilibrium that wouldn't have required the Tic-Tocs.
I suppose it's somewhat useless to dwell on contingencies, especially ones that didn't occur. But now we're dealing with time travel so those didn't-happens suddenly seem a lot more significant.
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 24, 2020 12:10:51 GMT
And if Shadow 2 hadn't followed Annie, she wouldn't have pieced Robot's body back together, and wouldn't have gone onto the bridge when Robot returned, hadn't fallen down and met Jeanne, or discovered Jeanne's shrine (the door to which was opened by Robot). If Robot had decided to immediately return to the Court, Ysengrin could not have planted the seed into him and Annie wouldn't have gone onto the bridge and [see above]. If that teacher would have believed Annie, Shadow 2 might have been brought to the Forest by other means and Robot would have never been reactivated and [see above]. If Renard would have been more polite, Annie wouldn't have forbidden him to speak and he could have kept her from going onto the bridge and [see above]. If Anja hadn't given Kat the key to the old laboratory, Annie wouldn't have found Jeanne's shrine. If Coyote hadn't been playing his game with Ysengrin, Loup would have never sprung into being and attacked the Court. If the psychopomps hadn't wanted Annie to do their job and bring Jeanne into the Ether, and hadn't pushed her into this direction, she might have never succeeded in actually doing it. And so on and so on. Blaming all of this on the Tic-toc's existence is completely arbitrary. The difference being that all those "ifs" you stated involve Annie. Annie is the catalyst that caused all those other events to happen. If Annie died in the beginning, and wasn't saved by the tic tocs, none of those other events would have been put into motion in the first place. As DonDueed pointed out, several of those other events happened before Annie ever set foot on the bridge. Also, Annie could have died many other times in the comic as well. Eglamore alone saved her life two times, the first time in chapter 3. So why not blame Eglamore for starting a war?
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 30, 2020 16:37:13 GMT
...are you, by any chance, a dedicated part of the Lackadaisy fanbase? Seen, but didn't binge. Because unless I miss my guess, that particular turn of phrase literally ONLY makes sense in the context of this old mini-comic (and even then, it only sort of makes sense, in an intuitive kind of way). If so, a word of advice: when making references(/memes) Not really. It's a parallel construction: ficuses are small and somewhat gnarled trees... which is hilariously suboptimal shape for anything else. Also, it's a funny word. Almost like begonias.
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