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odd.
Aug 29, 2008 20:37:05 GMT
Post by Shunpike on Aug 29, 2008 20:37:05 GMT
I can't view the comic. On any browser. And the mirror isn't updated until tomorrow.  Is anyone else having this problem? |
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odd.
Aug 29, 2008 20:45:10 GMT
Post by Klex on Aug 29, 2008 20:45:10 GMT
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odd.
Aug 29, 2008 20:55:43 GMT
Post by Shunpike on Aug 29, 2008 20:55:43 GMT
Thank you!
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odd.
Aug 29, 2008 20:59:47 GMT
Post by nickgoodway on Aug 29, 2008 20:59:47 GMT
Thanks for that, I was about to start tearing out my remaining hair.
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odd.
Aug 29, 2008 21:04:46 GMT
Post by Tenjen on Aug 29, 2008 21:04:46 GMT
iam getting a 403 forbidon error
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odd.
Aug 29, 2008 21:23:22 GMT
Post by david on Aug 29, 2008 21:23:22 GMT
QC linked to gunnerkrigg today (questionablecontent.net). Maybe it increased traffic and caused the main site to exceed its bandwidth limits... if so, I hope it won't become a financial issue for Tom.
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odd.
Aug 29, 2008 22:10:27 GMT
Post by todd on Aug 29, 2008 22:10:27 GMT
I've been having that problem too, and at first thought that my anti-spyware or anti-virus programs considered the site dangerous. I hope this problem gets cleared up soon.
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odd.
Aug 29, 2008 22:40:57 GMT
Post by ultrabluesky on Aug 29, 2008 22:40:57 GMT
Yeah. I hope so too.
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odd.
Aug 29, 2008 23:03:43 GMT
Post by todd on Aug 29, 2008 23:03:43 GMT
Tom just reported that the host pulled the site because of "memory useage". He didn't say how long that would be, or if it would even be temporary or permanent.
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odd.
Aug 30, 2008 0:50:21 GMT
Post by etcetera on Aug 30, 2008 0:50:21 GMT
What exactly does "memory useage" mean?
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odd.
Aug 30, 2008 2:01:56 GMT
Post by todd on Aug 30, 2008 2:01:56 GMT
I don't know. Tom used that phrase, not me; he'll have to answer that question.
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Grey
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Aug 30, 2008 4:42:17 GMT
Post by Grey on Aug 30, 2008 4:42:17 GMT
Memory usage you mean? In that case i can explain something. Okay, you know computer has several kind of memory? Like disk and RAM. Servers has memory which is shared by others users. I not sure about amount per user, but small as 2-4 mb is not impossible. So exceeding this limit is not always too hard. Understand?..
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odd.
Aug 30, 2008 10:40:44 GMT
Post by cyraptor on Aug 30, 2008 10:40:44 GMT
The way I understand it, bandwidth usage is calculated by the month and it's the end of the month, so...
I'm guessing the site will probably be back up on Monday, if not before then. It's not permanent.
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Aug 30, 2008 11:04:54 GMT
Post by Tom Siddell on Aug 30, 2008 11:04:54 GMT
The site most likely won't be back up on monday. It will probably take "a few weeks" according to the hosting guys. I used too much CPU ram on the shared server I was on, so it is down permanently until they enable the virtual private hosting I had to buy.
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odd.
Aug 30, 2008 11:16:02 GMT
Post by todd on Aug 30, 2008 11:16:02 GMT
For those of us who don't know much about how computers work, could you explain more about "CPU ram", please? Did the amount of archived episodes reach the breaking point, or were too many people showing up after the link from Questionable Content that others mentioned?
And since the mirror site is updated a day after the original site, does that mean we'll have to wait until Tuesday for the next page, instead of Monday?
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odd.
Aug 30, 2008 12:02:06 GMT
Post by nikita on Aug 30, 2008 12:02:06 GMT
The site uses PHP which is a programming language designed for websites.
When you surf to gunnerkrigg.com/index2.php (the main page), your browser asks the webhost for index2.php. Normally, the host just reads the page from it's hard disk and sends it to your browser. This uses almost no resources except bandwith and very little time and ram=memory to load.
Things are a little different with php: When the host receives the request for a php-page, it reads the page from disk and then translates and executes the script/programm included in the page.
This translation and execution need ram.
I guess too many people from QC visited GC and so, at some point, there were too many scripts to be translated/executed that used too much ram.
But that's a pretty lame excuse for dreamhost. Killing the site permanently just because of a single peak in memory usage - that's not fair.
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Aug 30, 2008 12:07:23 GMT
Post by Tom Siddell on Aug 30, 2008 12:07:23 GMT
A shared web server is a machine that hosts several websites belonging to different people. This machine will use RAM like a normal desktop to perform tasks, such as rendering pages, getting files, doing stuff like that. The links I got from both Questionable Content and Diesel Sweeties on the same day meant my site was getting so many hits the web server had to use up a lot of ram to perform all the taks. The guys at the hosting place saw that my account was taking up a lot of memory and shut it down.
Right now I'm not sure if I'm going to bother scheduling updates to the mirror while the main site is down since only a small percentage of people will see them. I'll see how I feel about it. It sort of defeats the purpose of having a mirror, but then I actually like people seeing my comic.
If I do update the mirror then, yes, you will have to wait until Tuesday.
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Aug 30, 2008 12:16:48 GMT
Post by nikita on Aug 30, 2008 12:16:48 GMT
Would it be possible to let the domain gunnerkrigg.com point to the mirror?
Or to a page hosted elsewhere that explains the situation and links to the mirror.
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Aug 30, 2008 12:17:10 GMT
Post by Klex on Aug 30, 2008 12:17:10 GMT
You could at least post them on the forum ! I mean, the day before the mirror update.
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odd.
Aug 30, 2008 12:50:31 GMT
Post by Madii on Aug 30, 2008 12:50:31 GMT
We got Jephdotted.
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Aug 30, 2008 16:54:09 GMT
Post by Tenjen on Aug 30, 2008 16:54:09 GMT
This is why people have to fund the webcomics they like.
Too bad most of us dont have the capability to do so. But god damnit when i do, iam certain to send a good amount this way.
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odd.
Aug 30, 2008 22:11:11 GMT
Post by todd on Aug 30, 2008 22:11:11 GMT
So we might have to wait a few weeks to get new material? Sigh. And just as the chapter was getting exciting.
I guess we'll need to keep the webcomic much more low-publicity for a while, at this rate.
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Aug 30, 2008 23:45:22 GMT
Post by todd on Aug 30, 2008 23:45:22 GMT
Sorry for the doublepost, but what does "Jephdotted" mean? |
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odd.
Aug 31, 2008 1:44:01 GMT
Post by popo on Aug 31, 2008 1:44:01 GMT
think she just means jeph, that QC guy, linked us
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Aug 31, 2008 1:46:26 GMT
Post by todd on Aug 31, 2008 1:46:26 GMT
Between this and the problems with the book release, it gives one the feeling that this is not a good time to be a Gunnerkrigg Court fan.
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Klex
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Aug 31, 2008 1:57:46 GMT
Post by Klex on Aug 31, 2008 1:57:46 GMT
What bother me the most is that it's precisly because he was linked that he got 404'd ; I wonder how many potential readers he has lost just because the main site is unreachable.
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odd.
Aug 31, 2008 10:24:55 GMT
Post by Tom Siddell on Aug 31, 2008 10:24:55 GMT
You have a way with words, Todd. Specifically words that make me feel like a dick.
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Grey
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Aug 31, 2008 10:31:58 GMT
Post by Grey on Aug 31, 2008 10:31:58 GMT
Aww.. *Head patting for Tom with tentacle.*
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Aug 31, 2008 10:32:01 GMT
Post by todd on Aug 31, 2008 10:32:01 GMT
I'm sorry if I upset you, Tom; I certainly didn't mean to do that. I was only expressing my disappointment that we might not get to see any updates for a long while.
The trouble that came from the link brings up a sad paradox: spreading the word about "Gunnerkrigg Court" may endanger it instead of helping it, because it increases the traffic at the site to a greater level than the site's mechanics can handle.
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Aug 31, 2008 11:38:25 GMT
Post by Tom Siddell on Aug 31, 2008 11:38:25 GMT
When the site comes back it will be able to handle the load. It's being moved to a non-shared hosting with its own ram. If I wasn't upgrading it then it would never come back.
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Is anyone else having this problem?
