manabi
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Post by manabi on Apr 20, 2020 20:46:21 GMT
Yes, there is something Coyote-ish in how Idra behaves. And she is the only one not frozen in time. Hmm indeed. If Eggers shagged Coyote in female-elf form, absolutely no one will let him forget it. He'll probably have to go into hiding on St. Patrick's day because of all the green reminders. (For bonus points the school uniforms have green in them for both sexes. Life will be hella embarrassing for Eggers going forward.) |
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Post by migrantworker on Apr 20, 2020 20:49:35 GMT
Soon a beautiful mare in heat appeared at the worksite, Svadilfari ran away to get it on with the mare, the Builder ran after Svadilfari, and the work was not completed on time after all due to all those distractions. Also, the mare, which really was Loki in disguise, had what was described as such dealings with Svadilfari that some time later, Loki gave birth to eight-legged horse Sleipnir, which then went on to become Odin's mount. In effect, you’re theorizing Coyote is making himself into Indra to distract Eglamore and sew discord in the group that’s attempting to make use of his bone—make one of the superpowered groundskeepers be off guard, emotionally stir up the Annies (there must also be a reason for two of them), and get inside information about what they plan to do with his secret weapon? Considering Coyote must’ve known Ysengrin was planning to kill him, this is not out of the realm of possibility. This could very well be part of a long game. I have this theory that having experienced an end of life - death - Coyote may now also want to experience the beginning of life, i.e. birth, and is using Idra as a vehicle. And if there is discord to be sown and tricks to be played in the process, then surely this would only make the whole thing that much more entertaining? |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 20, 2020 22:29:46 GMT
Antimony, growing up in a hospital, should have seen all sorts of things. Or at least if she'd grown up in an American hospital she would have, particularly while slipping around at odd hours. I'm less sure about UK hospitals. Maybe they're more repressed. Maybe Anthony ran a tight ship and hijinks of any sort were absolutely forbidden... although that normally wouldn't stop young med pros- just make them more sneaky, or make privacy curtains any more private. Are you arguing that the Antimonies' reaction is odd given their background? Because if she saw nudity or the like at Good Hope Hospital and therefore shouldn't react the way they did I'd argue that could've been before she discovered her own sexuality. It's just a passing thought. There are a number of possible reasons why the Antimonies are reacting the way they are and it could be a combination of factors. The hospital staff would have tried to shield her from the worst of triage but may not have been able to always do so, and the day-to-day operations (and trysts of opportunity) should have provided plenty of drama and the occasional sponge bath or enema. While it's true that many of those people would not be considered conventionally attractive this is probably not the first time an Antimony Carver has seen a bare arse. Antimonies may have been conditioned during that time to retreat because whatever is going on isn't appropriate for her to see, and she may not have reevaluated that stance as she grew older, having little opportunity to do so. Of course, the patients would just be people passing through and the staff would have been employees under her father so they may not have counted as people she knew. I suppose Eggers as an older fit male is an easy target for generic pubescent longings or idle fantasies however, whatever the Antimonies think about their own sexuality(s) and assuming they've started doing so other than what's been in the comic, I doubt they're experiencing much in the way of shattered innocence or jealousy... though Idra may assume they are. They are probably aware that Idra is teasing them (and Eggers) and that in itself is a contributing factor, methinks. Implicitly Idra is establishing herself as their social superior in maturity and mate-value in an arena that they haven't quite entered yet and if I had to bet cookies about what they're feeling that is what I'd toss the majority at, with most of the rest on a residual ingrained urge to flee before blatant sexuality. |
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Post by avurai on Apr 21, 2020 0:18:39 GMT
I did some research and Indra apparently means "possessing drops of rain" in Sanskrit, and is also the name of the Hindu god of the sky and rain. That’s pretty interesting. Her name is linked to divinity, drops of water, and possession, with indu meaning "a drop" and ra meaning "acquiring, possessing". Names are always vague enough to read anything into them, but it doesn’t not sound possible as an allusion. If I put on my tinfoil hat, the Court tried to use a water machine to mess with the ether and we also have the Annan Waters being plot relevant. *shrug* |
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Post by ditchboyus on Apr 21, 2020 3:32:04 GMT
I did some research and Indra apparently means "possessing drops of rain" in Sanskrit, and is also the name of the Hindu god of the sky and rain. That’s pretty interesting. Her name is linked to divinity, drops of water, and possession, with indu meaning "a drop" and ra meaning "acquiring, possessing". Names are always vague enough to read anything into them, but it doesn’t not sound possible as an allusion. If I put on my tinfoil hat, the Court tried to use a water machine to mess with the ether and we also have the Annan Waters being plot relevant. *shrug* I've seen speculation somewhere that the character's name (Idra O'Kerrigan) is actually related to the Starcraft video game. Not a gamer myself, but evidently a well-known Starcraft player, Greg Fields, goes by the name of IdrA, and a character in the game is Sarah Kerrigan. I'm sure there are people on the forum much more knowledgeable than I am in these matters, though. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 21, 2020 3:59:57 GMT
I've seen speculation somewhere that the character's name (Idra O'Kerrigan) is actually related to the Starcraft video game. Not a gamer myself, but evidently a well-known Starcraft player, Greg Fields, goes by the name of IdrA, and a character in the game is Sarah Kerrigan. I'm sure there are people on the forum much more knowledgeable than I am in these matters, though. is my best guess about what Idra's name means. (shrug) |
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Post by avurai on Apr 21, 2020 5:00:52 GMT
Did my brain add an N to her name for literally no reason?
Well, Idra means ‘fig tree’ in Hebrew.
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Post by apache on Apr 21, 2020 5:41:48 GMT
tldr They're British.
Isn't proper, wot wot.
*sips tea*
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Post by mordekai on Apr 21, 2020 8:31:55 GMT
I wonder how old is Idra: Her body looks young, but the wrinkles next to her eyes make her look at least middle aged...
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Post by philman on Apr 21, 2020 9:02:23 GMT
Two thoughts: First: Antimony, growing up in a hospital, should have seen all sorts of things. Or at least if she'd grown up in an American hospital she would have, particularly while slipping around at odd hours. I'm less sure about UK hospitals. Maybe they're more repressed. Maybe Anthony ran a tight ship and hijinks of any sort were absolutely forbidden... although that normally wouldn't stop young med pros- just make them more sneaky, or make privacy curtains any more private. Seeing someone naked on a hospital ward in a medical situation is VASTLY different to seeing someone naked in an obviously sexually charged situation with your teacher, especially when the last time you were in hospital was age 11. Hospital wards are not sexy places. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 21, 2020 10:00:59 GMT
Antimony, growing up in a hospital, should have seen all sorts of things. Or at least if she'd grown up in an American hospital she would have, particularly while slipping around at odd hours. I'm less sure about UK hospitals. Maybe they're more repressed. Maybe Anthony ran a tight ship and hijinks of any sort were absolutely forbidden... although that normally wouldn't stop young med pros- just make them more sneaky, or make privacy curtains any more private. Seeing someone naked on a hospital ward in a medical situation is VASTLY different to seeing someone naked in an obviously sexually charged situation with your teacher, especially when the last time you were in hospital was age 11. True but observing procedures isn't the only way to see attire-compromised people in hospitals. Hospital wards are not sexy places. That's arguably true but irrelevant. Hospitals are full of people who, while perhaps not sexy, are often under stress and work hours that make normal socialization difficult. Antimony was very likely not the only one sneaking around. |
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Post by saardvark on Apr 21, 2020 12:20:49 GMT
Did my brain add an N to her name for literally no reason? Well, Idra means ‘fig tree’ in Hebrew. the etymology of Indra is much more relevant.... the "n" helps! |
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Post by fia on Apr 21, 2020 15:04:31 GMT
Guess "they" really were "treating you good", Idra. If I were Annies, even as a 31-year-old, this would be super embarrassing and awkward for me and I would wish I were dead, whether I were Eggs or Annie. The parallelism here between Eggs/Idra (if they did have sex, which they totally did) and Jeanne/GreenBoi is compelling, particularly since we might parse Eggs as more of the big hulking enemy-bot in the tomb than the angelic sword-defender (viz., he's a better parallel for those that killed Jeanne – his job is literally to protect the Court against the enemies of the Forest; and here he is getting it on with a forest creature). It's giving me Holes-esque destiny / things coming around the long way vibes. I do wonder where this leaves Jones though. We all know she's not the jealous type, but I mean, where is she staying in the meantime? It would be weird getting it on with your deathless girlfriend-mentor/Oedipal nightmare hanging out in the next room. |
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 21, 2020 19:58:35 GMT
Guess "they" really were "treating you good", Idra. If I were Annies, even as a 31-year-old, this would be super embarrassing and awkward for me and I would wish I were dead, whether I were Eggs or Annie. The parallelism here between Eggs/Idra (if they did have sex, which they totally did) and Jeanne/GreenBoi is compelling, particularly since we might parse Eggs as more of the big hulking enemy-bot in the tomb than the angelic sword-defender (viz., he's a better parallel for those that killed Jeanne – his job is literally to protect the Court against the enemies of the Forest; and here he is getting it on with a forest creature). It's giving me Holes-esque destiny / things coming around the long way vibes. I do wonder where this leaves Jones though. We all know she's not the jealous type, but I mean, where is she staying in the meantime? It would be weird getting it on with your deathless girlfriend-mentor/Oedipal nightmare hanging out in the next room. If I were the visitor, I, personally, would rather be annoyed than embarassed. But then I look more like Donald Donlan and Idra would probably not see me as anyone able to violate her territory? But then, who knows?
Anyway, I agree with avurai 's assessment that no, this scene is not really cool. We (in the so-called West at least) have this double standard where the nudity of a young woman is never a problem, but this is an adult person all but flaunting her naked body in front of two young teen girls who are clearly uncomfortable with the situation. Like avurai said, it is played for laughs, but no...not really funny. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 21, 2020 21:08:16 GMT
Like I keep saying, I'd be happy if the characters in the comic just stayed kids and kept having adventures forever. However, the comic is going to address sexuality as part of coming-of-age and this page, comedic and/or dirty as some may or may not think it, does showcase the Antimonies well as a pair of teens who are (probably) going to have trouble dealing with this situation. Maybe they will learn something, maybe they will learn the wrong lesson, maybe they will respond badly.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Apr 21, 2020 22:44:23 GMT
Like I keep saying, I'd be happy if the characters in the comic just stayed kids and kept having adventures forever. However, the comic is going to address sexuality as part of coming-of-age and this page, comedic and/or dirty as some may or may not think it, does showcase the Antimonies well as a pair of teens who are (probably) going to have trouble dealing with this situation. Maybe they will learn something, maybe they will learn the wrong lesson, maybe they will respond badly. I still haven't completely let go of the human / fire elemental spontaneous pregnancy theory. Adding to the plus column "conveniently avoids the naughty bits". |
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Post by liminal on Apr 22, 2020 1:27:10 GMT
Given how it has started, the other shoe is going to drop very hard in this chapter.
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Post by alevice on Apr 22, 2020 12:54:54 GMT
Did Idra just flash her rear to the girls (as im sure its infered she wear no underwear)?  |
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Post by migrantworker on Apr 22, 2020 13:10:29 GMT
Did Idra just flash her rear to the girls (as im sure its infered she wear no underwear)? In what I'm sure is just a coincidence, the Annie from your avatar seems to be enjoying the sight...  |
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Post by alevice on Apr 22, 2020 13:11:50 GMT
Did Idra just flash her rear to the girls (as im sure its infered she wear no underwear)? In what I'm sure is just a coincidence, the Annie from your avatar seems to be enjoying the sight... She is the third evil twin. Her eyepatch of evil just happens to be painted like an eye. |
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