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Post by madjack on Apr 20, 2020 7:02:44 GMT
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 20, 2020 7:06:20 GMT
Not sure if Idra is trolling the Antimonies or not. [edit]Pretty sure Eggers is getting trolled a little... but it could be a cultural thing about being nude in your own domicile. Either way, Idra doesn't mind letting the Antimonies know what's what. She may even be staking a claim. After all, Eggers is a prime chunk.[/edit]
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Post by Zox Tomana on Apr 20, 2020 7:08:00 GMT
Welp. There goes another spot on the list of "Zox's Favorite Characters." Those fangs are cute.
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Post by wies on Apr 20, 2020 7:10:15 GMT
Forget supernatural hijinks, we are in for romantic hijinks now! Also, looks like migrantworker had it completely right. Neither, I think: she is marking what she consider to be her territory. That some would get embarassed at the delivery is just a side effect, which in a happy coincidence only makes the message sink in more. That Eglamore would get embarassed - which he well might, he definitely looks surprised in panel 4 - does not matter either; he has already been staked and claimed and he knows it, and he knows everybody else knows it too, and Idra knows that everybody knows that everybody knows. And she did not even actually say anything. (Edit: and if somebody objects, she can always play innocent: wait what, you humans DON'T do it this way?) Smooth move, Idra. Smooth indeed. Your smug grin in the last panel is fully justified. |
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Post by arf on Apr 20, 2020 7:19:04 GMT
Hmmm!Thumbnail is up, and it's Coyote's lake water.
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Post by basser on Apr 20, 2020 7:39:31 GMT
I don't get what the Annies are salty about. Guarantee they seen naked elves before, and it ain't like either of them are in Egger's league or even interested in the dude. (She's got the hots for that married elf dude, yeah?) Are they just pissed folks are still getting laid during the forest apocalypse? Or do they expect someone from a completely different culture to follow arbitrary English prude code?
Also don't understand why Eggers, a fully-grown adult man slash magic super-warrior, gets flustered and blushes like a teenager instead of just calmly asking his lady friend to go change. Acting like he's got something to be ashamed of sets a poor example for the kids. Plus yikes dude how are you this unconfident? Own yourself. You can jump a 200ft vertical for chrissakes.
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Post by aline on Apr 20, 2020 7:51:25 GMT
I don't get what the Annies are salty about. Guarantee they seen naked elves before, and it ain't like either of them are in Egger's league or even interested in the dude. (She's got the hots for that married elf dude, yeah?) Are they just pissed folks are still getting laid during the forest apocalypse? Or do they expect someone from a completely different culture to follow arbitrary English prude code? I think they are just teens and generally embarrassed at the idea of sex. Also they might have a secret crush on Eglamore that they absolutely refuse to acknowledge. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 20, 2020 8:00:40 GMT
^Agreed. Maybe they're not salty, maybe they're just adamant that they do not want something to eat because they do not want to prolong the awkwardness.
Of course, the correct answer for this situation is to pretend there is absolutely nothing abnormal or uncomfortable going on whatsoever. Absolute shamelessness served me well in my college years.
Also: Forum keeps returning errors tonight.
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Post by philman on Apr 20, 2020 8:02:36 GMT
I don't get what the Annies are salty about. Guarantee they seen naked elves before, and it ain't like either of them are in Egger's league or even interested in the dude. (She's got the hots for that married elf dude, yeah?) Are they just pissed folks are still getting laid during the forest apocalypse? Or do they expect someone from a completely different culture to follow arbitrary English prude code? Also don't understand why Eggers, a fully-grown adult man slash magic super-warrior, gets flustered and blushes like a teenager instead of just calmly asking his lady friend to go change. Acting like he's got something to be ashamed of sets a poor example for the kids. Plus yikes dude how are you this unconfident? Own yourself. You can jump a 200ft vertical for chrissakes. Salty? I think having the secret lady friend of your surrogate father figure (who might get him in trouble with the Court) strutting around naked in front of you would be embarrassing for most people, especially teenagers, and especially Annie given everything we have seen of her attitude towards romance in the past. And you can be a 7ft tall super warrior and still get embarrassed about your personal life, they are not mutually exclusive? |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 20, 2020 8:13:30 GMT
Not sure about Eggers as a father figure for Antimonies but he is their teacher. Also, if the girls are salty it may be because of what happened in panel 1. Eggers may have proven that he can leave a mark or two on a moon without the help of Coyote.
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 20, 2020 11:35:34 GMT
Not sure about Eggers as a father figure for Antimonies but he is their teacher. Also, if the girls are salty it may be because of what happened in panel 1. Eggers may have proven that he can leave a mark or two on a moon without the help of Coyote. All of this. Plus, he is also the ex of Annie's mother and has on multiple occasions proven that he has trouble separating Surma and Annie in his mind. So on some subconscious level (he need not actually be aware of this) for him this is sort of like having Idra acting like that in front of his ex. Or worse, two exes.
What I am asking myself, is, why did Idra even bother to put the shirt on in the first place, if she has no problem being naked in front of people she barely knows.
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Post by Futurismo on Apr 20, 2020 11:45:11 GMT
Not sure about Eggers as a father figure for Antimonies but he is their teacher. Also, if the girls are salty it may be because of what happened in panel 1. Eggers may have proven that he can leave a mark or two on a moon without the help of Coyote. All of this. Plus, he is also the ex of Annie's mother and has on multiple occasions proven that he has trouble separating Surma and Annie in his mind. So on some subconscious level (he need not actually be aware of this) for him this is sort of like having Idra acting like that in front of his ex. Or worse, two exes.
What I am asking myself, is, why did Idra even bother to put the shirt on in the first place, if she has no problem being naked in front of people she barely knows.
If I had to guess, Eglamore was too flustered with her walking around naked so he asked her to put on his shirt if she really doesn't feel like wearing anything else. Just because you've had sex with someone doesn't mean that you can't still feel flustered by their casual nudity, after all.
As for the Annies' "NO THANK YOU[,]" I think that they just lost any appetite that they might have had before this page.
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Post by migrantworker on Apr 20, 2020 12:03:09 GMT
Forget supernatural hijinks, we are in for romantic hijinks now! Also, looks like migrantworker had it completely right. Neither, I think: she is marking what she consider to be her territory. That some would get embarassed at the delivery is just a side effect, which in a happy coincidence only makes the message sink in more. That Eglamore would get embarassed - which he well might, he definitely looks surprised in panel 4 - does not matter either; he has already been staked and claimed and he knows it, and he knows everybody else knows it too, and Idra knows that everybody knows that everybody knows. And she did not even actually say anything. (Edit: and if somebody objects, she can always play innocent: wait what, you humans DON'T do it this way?) Smooth move, Idra. Smooth indeed. Your smug grin in the last panel is fully justified. Well thank you, but after today's page I no longer think so myself. She's already well into the OKAY THAT IS QUITE ENOUGH THANK YOU territory - and she keeps pressing onwards. Now I think this is a dominance move. And it did work too, seeing how Eglamore retreated hastily into the depths of his own house. Hmmm!Thumbnail is up, and it's Coyote's lake water. Yes, there is something Coyote-ish in how Idra behaves. And she is the only one not frozen in time. Hmm indeed. |
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Post by migrantworker on Apr 20, 2020 12:22:24 GMT
I don't get what the Annies are salty about. Guarantee they seen naked elves before, and it ain't like either of them are in Egger's league or even interested in the dude. (She's got the hots for that married elf dude, yeah?) Are they just pissed folks are still getting laid during the forest apocalypse? Or do they expect someone from a completely different culture to follow arbitrary English prude code? I think they are just teens and generally embarrassed at the idea of sex. Also they might have a secret crush on Eglamore that they absolutely refuse to acknowledge. Yes, it looks like they do have a crush on him. Why else would they be shown to be so hostile towards Idra? Because Tom wanted to play with fancy fonts?  What I am asking myself, is, why did Idra even bother to put the shirt on in the first place, if she has no problem being naked in front of people she barely knows. Ah, but that's yet another layer of smooth: if she started out naked, she would have no way to escalate. And Eglamore does want her to take the shirt off (because he wants to wear it himself), so Idra still has all the plausible deniability she could want. This really is one of the best designed pranks in the whole comic so far, right up there with chapter 55 if not better. |
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Post by OrzBrain on Apr 20, 2020 13:40:03 GMT
Yes, there is something Coyote-ish in how Idra behaves. And she is the only one not frozen in time. Hmm indeed. I'm always up for speculation that one of the characters is really an instance of Coyote in disguise. Or that all of them are really Coyote. |
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 20, 2020 14:04:50 GMT
By the way, compare this page for another instance of Eglamore being embarassed in front of Annie and hastily retreating. |
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Post by Earin on Apr 20, 2020 14:26:10 GMT
Yes, there is something Coyote-ish in how Idra behaves. And she is the only one not frozen in time. Hmm indeed. I'm always up for speculation that one of the characters is really an instance of Coyote in disguise. Or that all of them are really Coyote. Later it will turn out that the comics, the webserver, Tom, and all the readers, are all Coyote. |
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 20, 2020 14:30:22 GMT
Yes, there is something Coyote-ish in how Idra behaves. And she is the only one not frozen in time. Hmm indeed. That was my first thought, as well. A broken off part of him? My second thought was the hilarity of Eggs' blue-screen-of-death eyes, when he finds out. |
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Post by caber on Apr 20, 2020 15:27:57 GMT
I'm always up for speculation that one of the characters is really an instance of Coyote in disguise. Or that all of them are really Coyote. Later it will turn out that the comics, the webserver, Tom, and all the readers, are all Coyote. Well that would explain why, alongside the comic, the 'real' (*tin foil hat*) world has also gone off the rails. |
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Post by avurai on Apr 20, 2020 15:30:17 GMT
One the other hand, I don’t think the Annies have ever emotionally related with Eglamore this much in their lives. This is easily one of the most awkward things either the three of them have ever been put through together.
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Post by avurai on Apr 20, 2020 16:06:55 GMT
I don't get what the Annies are salty about. Guarantee they seen naked elves before, and it ain't like either of them are in Egger's league or even interested in the dude. (She's got the hots for that married elf dude, yeah?) Are they just pissed folks are still getting laid during the forest apocalypse? Or do they expect someone from a completely different culture to follow arbitrary English prude code? Also don't understand why Eggers, a fully-grown adult man slash magic super-warrior, gets flustered and blushes like a teenager instead of just calmly asking his lady friend to go change. Acting like he's got something to be ashamed of sets a poor example for the kids. Plus yikes dude how are you this unconfident? Own yourself. You can jump a 200ft vertical for chrissakes. I think you’re missing the subtext. Two children are walking into a teacher’s house under the assumption of covert professionalism and then being forced to walk inside what they now realize is a sexually charged situation between two adults. They aren’t angry, they’re panicking. It’s one thing to think of standards of sexual prudeness as too stringent, it’s another to be invited into a sexually charged environment as a child and feel like you have no agency over your own body as you are coaxed along into the room as a result of your culturally codified rules for politeness. This is a powerplay by Idra and if it wasn’t written to be funny it would actually be fairly skeevy and gross. If this was an adult male forest creature inviting the Annies in to show off his marking of sexual territory over an adult woman in the Court and threatening to take his clothes off, this whole situation would read differently. It would likely be one of the tensest moments of the comic yet and we’d be hoping the Annies would manage to find their way out of there fast. Also, the female elves don’t ever appear casually naked in the comic, not even the side-comics. This feels like Idra showing off because she knows elvish culture appears more lax in their dress code (particularly the shirtless males) but actually she’s still stepping over their usual line as a power move to frazzle the Annies and Eglamore but under the guise of “Hey, elves are just like this, you’re overthinking this, haha.” Really, she’s playing ignorant to toy with them both and assert her dominance over them. Explaining the subtext has actually made me enjoy this scene a bit less. I can actually feel the subtext instead of just vaguely getting the gist of it. It’s kinda... ew. It’s still a good scene but it’s not exactly as funny to me anymore. Idra is kind of a creep. |
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Post by jda on Apr 20, 2020 16:13:58 GMT
Hmmm!Thumbnail is up, and it's Coyote's lake water. Yes, there is something Coyote-ish in how Idra behaves. And she is the only one not frozen in time. Hmm indeed. So, shipping Coyote and Eggsy? somehow I am not surprised... |
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Post by avurai on Apr 20, 2020 16:23:03 GMT
Yes, there is something Coyote-ish in how Idra behaves. And she is the only one not frozen in time. Hmm indeed. So, shipping Coyote and Eggsy? somehow I am not surprised... “If Renard wanted the Surma girl, I can do one better! I will BED the girl’s first boyfriend! Oh, to see the look on his face! I will have beaten him at his own game! Take a body to be with a human, one inside his friend group he so liked, and then I will succeed where Renard could not! Maybe I can make the sword man say ‘I love you’. Oh, this will be good~” ... I’m actually starting to believe this? |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 20, 2020 17:24:35 GMT
Two thoughts:
First: Antimony, growing up in a hospital, should have seen all sorts of things. Or at least if she'd grown up in an American hospital she would have, particularly while slipping around at odd hours. I'm less sure about UK hospitals. Maybe they're more repressed. Maybe Anthony ran a tight ship and hijinks of any sort were absolutely forbidden... although that normally wouldn't stop young med pros- just make them more sneaky, or make privacy curtains any more private.
Second: Lots of people other than Coyote like to rattle cages now and then, particularly when there are ego-building aspects to said cage-rattling. The Antimonies are a little famous and arguably-powerful, and were/are favored by Coyote, Ysengrin, and "Loup." They are also less mature than Idra is so she can vamp them fairly easily under many circumstances, and here she's caught one of the most eligible bachelors in the Court. Take that, shrimps.
Could Coyote have set up Idra as a Coyote's paw to play a part in his death and return? Sure. It's not impossible for Idra to be Coyote (she's been very convenient in a number of ways) since he can be in multiple places at once. There's no possible way to rule out Idra being Coyote... but it doesn't seem necessary in that it doesn't get him anything he'd care about. Whatever happens will be funny. If she is part of Coyote's plan then I'd have to question a bunch of things about Coyote that we allegedly know.
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Post by migrantworker on Apr 20, 2020 17:34:08 GMT
So, shipping Coyote and Eggsy? somehow I am not surprised... Effectively, yes - and more. See below. “If Renard wanted the Surma girl, I can do one better! I will BED the girl’s first boyfriend! Oh, to see the look on his face! I will have beaten him at his own game! Take a body to be with a human, one inside his friend group he so liked, and then I will succeed where Renard could not! Maybe I can make the sword man say ‘I love you’. Oh, this will be good~” Do you know, there is a mythical precedent for this... An unnamed Builder offerred to help the Norse gods build Valhalla in exchange for some exorbitant price. They agreed under a condition that the Builder does it 'with help from no man' - but trickster Loki convinced the other gods to let the Builder use a work horse, Svadilfari. With the horse's help, the Builder was getting dangerously close to complete the work within the time agreed, and gods blamed Loki for this. Loki almost got sentenced to death, but talked his way out of it by promising to devise a scheme to disrupt the Builder's work. Soon a beautiful mare in heat appeared at the worksite, Svadilfari ran away to get it on with the mare, the Builder ran after Svadilfari, and the work was not completed on time after all due to all those distractions. Also, the mare, which really was Loki in disguise, had what was described as such dealings with Svadilfari that some time later, Loki gave birth to eight-legged horse Sleipnir, which then went on to become Odin's mount. |
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Post by avurai on Apr 20, 2020 17:50:29 GMT
Soon a beautiful mare in heat appeared at the worksite, Svadilfari ran away to get it on with the mare, the Builder ran after Svadilfari, and the work was not completed on time after all due to all those distractions. Also, the mare, which really was Loki in disguise, had what was described as such dealings with Svadilfari that some time later, Loki gave birth to eight-legged horse Sleipnir, which then went on to become Odin's mount. In effect, you’re theorizing Coyote is making himself into Indra to distract Eglamore and sew discord in the group that’s attempting to make use of his bone—make one of the superpowered groundskeepers be off guard, emotionally stir up the Annies (there must also be a reason for two of them), and get inside information about what they plan to do with his secret weapon? Considering Coyote must’ve known Ysengrin was planning to kill him, this is not out of the realm of possibility. This could very well be part of a long game. |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Apr 20, 2020 17:58:24 GMT
OwOYes, there is something Coyote-ish in how Idra behaves. And she is the only one not frozen in time. Hmm indeed. So, shipping Coyote and Eggsy? somehow I am not surprised... Let's be honest, we're the sexiest two characters in the story, who wouldn't ship us? Ha ha ha!the group that’s attempting to make use of his bone The Fire-Headed Girl(s) tarried in finding my (goose) bone, so I went looking for a bone of my own :3 So, shipping Coyote and Eggsy? somehow I am not surprised... “If Renard wanted the Surma girl, I can do one better! I will BED the girl’s first boyfriend! Oh, to see the look on his face! I will have beaten him at his own game! Take a body to be with a human, one inside his friend group he so liked, and then I will succeed where Renard could not! Maybe I can make the sword man say ‘I love you’. Oh, this will be good~”
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Post by Runningflame on Apr 20, 2020 19:15:20 GMT
By the way, compare this page for another instance of Eglamore being embarassed in front of Annie and hastily retreating. "Try not to be undressed in front of the female students, James." |
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Post by Runningflame on Apr 20, 2020 19:21:50 GMT
Maybe Idra likes him scruffy. Two cookies in one page is a personal best, I think! |
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Post by bedinsis on Apr 20, 2020 20:28:56 GMT
Antimony, growing up in a hospital, should have seen all sorts of things. Or at least if she'd grown up in an American hospital she would have, particularly while slipping around at odd hours. I'm less sure about UK hospitals. Maybe they're more repressed. Maybe Anthony ran a tight ship and hijinks of any sort were absolutely forbidden... although that normally wouldn't stop young med pros- just make them more sneaky, or make privacy curtains any more private. Are you arguing that the Antimonies' reaction is odd given their background? Because if she saw nudity or the like at Good Hope Hospital and therefore shouldn't react the way they did I'd argue that could've been before she discovered her own sexuality. |
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