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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 9, 2020 7:03:22 GMT
Have to check and see if that's how they spell randomize in the UK. [edit] Yes it is; thought so but also thought I'd better check. [/edit] Also if the robot wasn't using the rnd button before that page may have taken longer than I thought. |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Mar 9, 2020 7:17:33 GMT
Unless the previous page was the robot going through the pre-designed characters. That just raises even more questions about the last one. Did Monster Factory get to make an honorary option?
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Post by wies on Mar 9, 2020 7:36:49 GMT
Well, I would not leave it to chance. But then, I am no Bot. Huh, did the robots have choice over their own Bot-bodies? Like, Arthur went through many different shapes. Interesting then that many Bots apparently did choose Random. I suppose they want the limitations and the toll of flesh to understand humans? Looking forward to what the other Bots have been up to. |
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Post by madjack on Mar 9, 2020 7:40:54 GMT
I wonder if the random generator will have limits set so they fall within what's possible for a human, or maybe that won't be as important to the other robots as it was for Arthur?
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Post by basser on Mar 9, 2020 7:42:21 GMT
Kat just casually spinning up an entire new race like it's an automated firmware update.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 9, 2020 8:04:48 GMT
I wonder if the random generator will have limits set so they fall within what's possible for a human, or maybe that won't be as important to the other robots as it was for Arthur? I'd figure that it would have to at least be weighted to favor human norms. It may also have limits as far as how many variables can be how many standard devs before it zeros everything and re-randomizes. Speaking of such things, if lots of robots are choosing to go with randomly generated bodies then I'll have to revise my prediction about them winding up mostly male. I guess that a slim majority will be male. |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Mar 9, 2020 8:08:27 GMT
RND, RND, RND, RND,... ooh, I like that one! Maybe one more. RND, nah, that's no good, is there a back button? Oh no, there isn't!!! OK then. RND, RND, RND, RND, RND, RND, RND, RND, RND, RND, ... Called it! Just RND that shizzle, and tweak something you kinda like! That's how I usually roll. That, or just minmaxing the sliders randomly... |
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Post by Elysium on Mar 9, 2020 8:09:36 GMT
They can try all they want, they won't ever come close to Robot's magnificent (former) square-face-with-two-LEDs-on-one-side. Now THAT's what I'd choose if I had any say in the matter.
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Post by bicarbonat on Mar 9, 2020 8:13:21 GMT
Robots, I have three words for you: NO. MIDDLE. SLIDERS.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2020 8:58:38 GMT
This time, the joke is that the Randomize button doesn't affect anyone's inherited current and potential intelligence, making the choice to "randomize" a laughably misguided cross to bear and Kat's character creator about as meaningful as that of any Sims game. Skill point systems might involve a lot of duct tape and handwaving about which traits should correlate, but at least this involves the necessary opportunity cost for individuation, that some routes will be closed in life and some closing more imminently than others; here, we have new wallpapers patched over the same "channel" of consciousness copied over and over. Not much better than headcrabs.
If Kat has been planning to use the robots purely as a homogenized resource for whatever Annie-related plan keeps her awake at night -- showing that her character is changing -- then it would fit, of course. If she is still earnestly concerned with giving life to robots, it still fits, as long as the intent is to show Kat as a genius in her field with a childish approach to anything else (and given how old she is, that's understandable).
imaginaryfriend is also correct that "randomised" is not as strong a restriction as "uniformly distributed", though that is the most effortless possible implementation. Frankly I'm surprised that the last page's final panels have not been applications thereof, as revealed now. I'll assume that the joke was that a robot made Eglamore by just playing around on the sliders, instead.
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Post by Igniz on Mar 9, 2020 9:05:38 GMT
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Post by rosesonthewall on Mar 9, 2020 10:09:46 GMT
Have to check and see if that's how they spell randomize in the UK. [edit] Yes it is; thought so but also thought I'd better check. [/edit] From a Commonwealth country i.e. UK-based education: Yes, a lot of American "-ize" words are spelled "-ise" in UK English. (I kind of prefer the 'Z' though) |
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Post by rosesonthewall on Mar 9, 2020 10:17:01 GMT
I thought it was thoughtful of this robot to relate the randomisation to humans being born in bodies they cannot choose. Of course, many are born in bodies they do not feel they belong in. I wonder if any robots would feel like that, in their human bodies.
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 9, 2020 11:46:48 GMT
"Their minds grow alongside their bodies"?
So, will the newly reincarnated robot's mind be randomised too? It would just be consistent.
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Post by wies on Mar 9, 2020 12:52:13 GMT
"Their minds grow alongside their bodies"? So, will the newly reincarnated robot's mind be randomised too? It would just be consistent. Well, the mind is nothing but a plaything of the body, correct? |
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Post by speedwell on Mar 9, 2020 13:30:02 GMT
As someone whose body does not like itself (literally; I have an autoimmune disorder), I sort of want to go "Nooooo, please, for my sake if nothing else, make good choices and have the body you want".
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Post by speedwell on Mar 9, 2020 13:33:31 GMT
"Their minds grow alongside their bodies"? So, will the newly reincarnated robot's mind be randomised too? It would just be consistent. Well, the mind is nothing but a plaything of the body, correct? If that was a true thing in this context, whatever emerges from this great embodiment exercise wouldn't be the original robot consciousnesses anyway. And to be sure, we might find it to be the case, as it seems to be true in Reynard's. |
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Post by yinglung on Mar 9, 2020 14:02:24 GMT
"Gacha? What's that?"
"If you don't want a humanoid body, you can be a hivemind governing over part of a robotic ecosystem. You get ten bodies, most of which are plants and insects, one might be higher order, and you have a 1% chance of having the Blue-eyes White Rogat Orjak body in your hivemind cluster."
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Post by Gemini Jim on Mar 9, 2020 14:54:36 GMT
If it is truly random, they could have bodies like Friday's last panel, i.e. "played with the sliders and rotated the eyebrows."
Maybe it's random from a variety of random pre-selected bodies. There must be a way to avoid easily-noticeable weirdos... or even elf girls.. walking around.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 9, 2020 15:07:18 GMT
imaginaryfriend is also correct that "randomised" is not as strong a restriction as "uniformly distributed", though that is the most effortless possible implementation. Frankly I'm surprised that the last page's final panels have not been applications thereof, as revealed now. I'll assume that the joke was that a robot made Eglamore by just playing around on the sliders, instead. In hindsight maybe the three end-products of last page were the results of manipulating the sliders a tiny amount or not at all, moving one or more sliders a little, and moving two or more a lot as the robot explored the functions. Related to that: I can also build a case for true random variants making too many improbable (or impossible) end results that would make such a generator unfit-for-purpose without a hard restriction(s). Have to check and see if that's how they spell randomize in the UK. [edit] Yes it is; thought so but also thought I'd better check. [/edit] From a Commonwealth country i.e. UK-based education: Yes, a lot of American "-ize" words are spelled "-ise" in UK English. (I kind of prefer the 'Z' though) I was sure enough to title the thread with "randomise" but as it was 3am local I've found it best to double-check. Since you bring it up, I think I prefer the "z" spelling also (and not just because I'm accustomed to it). Maybe it's random from a variety of random pre-selected bodies. There must be a way to avoid easily-noticeable weirdos... or even elf girls.. walking around. On the other hand, if it didn't take much manipulation to wind up with "elf girl" perhaps Kat has subtly increased the odds of elf-girls and other results that Kat might like, being a fan of video games. |
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Post by bedinsis on Mar 9, 2020 17:31:16 GMT
Has daylight saving times started in the U.S.? Because I believe this page went live an hour earlier than usual.
Speaking of the U.S., as Mr. Siddell points out he has lived there for a year now. I remember him stating that a lot of changes would come in 2019 for him when that year was about to start. In summary he has moved to another country, gotten married and had his webcomic and livelihood optioned for a would-be TV series*. I'd say that IS a lot of changes.
*formally revealed in the last days of January of this year. I suspect this was not completely decided upon in January, meaning it was probably started last year.
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 9, 2020 19:38:47 GMT
On the other hand, if it didn't take much manipulation to wind up with "elf girl" perhaps Kat has subtly increased the odds of elf-girls and other results that Kat might like, being a fan of video games. And of Eglamore?  |
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Post by netherdan on Mar 9, 2020 20:07:17 GMT
imaginaryfriend is also correct that "randomised" is not as strong a restriction as "uniformly distributed", though that is the most effortless possible implementation. Frankly I'm surprised that the last page's final panels have not been applications thereof, as revealed now. I'll assume that the joke was that a robot made Eglamore by just playing around on the sliders, instead. In hindsight maybe the three end-products of last page were the results of manipulating the sliders a tiny amount or not at all, moving one or more sliders a little, and moving two or more a lot as the robot explored the functions. Related to that: I can also build a case for true random variants making too many improbable (or impossible) end results that would make such a generator unfit-for-purpose without a hard restriction(s). From a Commonwealth country i.e. UK-based education: Yes, a lot of American "-ize" words are spelled "-ise" in UK English. (I kind of prefer the 'Z' though) I was sure enough to title the thread with "randomise" but as it was 3am local I've found it best to double-check. Since you bring it up, I think I prefer the "z" spelling also (and not just because I'm accustomed to it). Maybe it's random from a variety of random pre-selected bodies. There must be a way to avoid easily-noticeable weirdos... or even elf girls.. walking around. On the other hand, if it didn't take much manipulation to wind up with "elf girl" perhaps Kat has subtly increased the odds of elf-girls and other results that Kat might like, being a fan of video games. I actually read that page as if the pipe bot's mind-in-the-bucket not having to move an imaginary cursor to set values to the sliders but just "wishing" the values in there and a subroutine sending a packet with a bunch of "set value" commands, so the whole process could be less than a millisecond in the robot's perspective between each iteration (and some millionths of seconds, picoseconds, in real time) |
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Post by crater on Mar 10, 2020 2:02:02 GMT
imagine something so noble actually existing and having to co-exist with it
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Post by maxptc on Mar 10, 2020 4:06:14 GMT
I choose to believe the randomize option only produces around 15-30 different options until otherwise shown.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Mar 10, 2020 16:56:57 GMT
On the other hand, if it didn't take much manipulation to wind up with "elf girl" perhaps Kat has subtly increased the odds of elf-girls and other results that Kat might like, being a fan of video games. And of Eglamore? I had this crazy thought, what if a robot actually chose Eglamore for a new body? (Because he seems normal enough.) And then my mind leapt from there to Kat (nah, that would be sacrilege) and then from there to Annie. Ha ha, a third Annie running around. (It couldn't be Court Annie, time warped back to the start of her story, because Annie has fire powers and other stuff.) But if the bodies have improved, any Court person could be... Jones could be a robot. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 10, 2020 17:19:18 GMT
On the other hand, if it didn't take much manipulation to wind up with "elf girl" perhaps Kat has subtly increased the odds of elf-girls and other results that Kat might like, being a fan of video games. And of Eglamore? Possibly... but really what character doesn't look like Eglamore? And of Eglamore? I had this crazy thought, what if a robot actually chose Eglamore for a new body? ...Ha ha, a third Annie running around. That is something that I assume exists as a hidden restriction... If a robot chooses to make a body that is identical to someone on the Court by chance or for whatever reason I would think that the 'stallation wizard would try to guide them away from it and if they persisted, eventually forbid it. This may extend to celebrities; it probably wouldn't extend to duplicates of just anyone anywhere because the searches would slow the process to glacial levels (to AIs). |
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Post by blackouthart on Mar 10, 2020 19:04:16 GMT
On the other hand, if it didn't take much manipulation to wind up with "elf girl" perhaps Kat has subtly increased the odds of elf-girls and other results that Kat might like, being a fan of video games. And of Eglamore? Hey now, we haven't seen the two in the same room. Who's to say that isn't already Eglamore? (Running joke aside, it would be hilarious if the RND option was actually just an Eglamore preset slider. An army of robot Eglamores.) |
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Post by netherdan on Mar 11, 2020 2:47:33 GMT
(Running joke aside, it would be hilarious if the RND option was actually just an Eglamore preset slider. An army of robot Eglamores.) Kat: "I'm so sorry! I thought none of them would click that button! It should have been just an internal joke between Robot and I!" (Robot having actually run countless simulations and knowing with good certainty that about 90% of the robots would click it) |
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