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Post by Igniz on Feb 27, 2020 4:20:42 GMT
"It's all in the mind"Great Scott! We've just started the chapter and at least one mind-bending mystery has been solved: it's a bucket. Furthermore, we also got the chapter icon. If things continue at this pace...
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Post by merry76 on Feb 27, 2020 11:05:32 GMT
I am not sure why but my brain just assumed the voice belonged to Jones for some reason. I think the stone and flowing fabric evoked some images from past chapters in my mind. Oh dear - if you are right, the robots have more problems than they can handle. I mean, not even Jones gets what Jones really is. Try being self concious for a few weeks and trying to handle Jones existential problems.p
Not that she does have any, I think she is perfectly indifferent.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Feb 27, 2020 19:19:10 GMT
I am not sure why but my brain just assumed the voice belonged to Jones for some reason. I think the stone and flowing fabric evoked some images from past chapters in my mind. Oh dear - if you are right, the robots have more problems than they can handle. I mean, not even Jones gets what Jones really is. Try being self concious for a few weeks and trying to handle Jones existential problems.p Not that she does have any, I think she is perfectly indifferent.
I agree with the Jones idea. Whatever Arthur now is, he may look human, but is he really? Or is he a robot in a human suit? Is he Data? "Jones is a robot" was a pretty common joke/ WMG for a while. Emotionless, strong, not quite human... maybe she is a good person to help the robots understand robot evolution. |
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Post by keef on Feb 27, 2020 19:28:33 GMT
If there is no such thing as Silicon Heaven, then where do all the calculators go?
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Post by wies on Feb 27, 2020 23:30:28 GMT
Maybe this robot is dead/becoming alive, and it met a pschyopomp who does deal in electrical appliances? Anyway, it seems we are in for weird times again, I am excited. Wha...good GOD, man, that is an OBSCURE (and subtle) reference. I'm outraged at you, but also kind of outraged at myself for almost immediately recognizing it. I may or may not have spent a little too much time rereading the comic over and over again. I am surprised it is apparently so obscure! It has pretty much been one of the key panels of GKC for me since the theory of robots getting souls was launched. However, the outrage is very much welcome.  |
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Post by relevant on Feb 28, 2020 6:05:38 GMT
Alright. Okay. I've followed the comic for a long time, read the forum with some regularity for a spell after that, had thoughts and feelings after that again - but I hardly felt the need to create an account to put in my two cents (not adjusted for inflation.) Until now. It's time, lads. I have been waiting for this for years. I am all-in, chips-on-the-table, promise-my-first-born, convinced that the "she" in the chapter title is Annie and that this chapter is about adding to the canon of Robot Religion. Robot explicitly thanks Annie for giving him a choice after finishing his task in the forest. Less convinced but pretty likely that not shown, toga-wearing speaker is also Annie (as romanticized by Robot.) See also: Annie and Robot's first exchange.There's also the thing about the octopus. Oceans. Choice. Misfits and finding one's place. Kat and Paz. Etc...you get the point. Maybe this robot is dead/becoming alive, and it met a pschyopomp who does deal in electrical appliances? Anyway, it seems we are in for weird times again, I am excited. Kat is almost certainly confirmed as the goddess of the newly "sentient" robot race, giver of life, and philosophical platitudes. If Kat is the angel of life and a moral compass/rationale as to [how to live/value that life, love makes us crazy, etc.], then Annie is the other half (not side!) of the coin, the angel of death. /wildSpecStartAnnie is a combination psychopomp to robots and misfits, and mother/Mary figure in the robot sentience creation story. Kat is God, angel, messiah, all wrapped up. Robot is the first prophet and possibly Adam/Eve as the first to "fall from grace," or at least depart from just the Diego-centric, All-Father mentality. E.g. "Our only purpose is to help humans, and we're happy to do it." Well, depart successfully, if this page is any indication.Also, the robot religion is not actually for robots, but for misfits/outcasts - those who don't fit into the Court or the Forest or don't already belong to an existing psychopomp without conflict. Not clear to me yet what role Juliet/Arthur, Smitty/Parley, and Shadow play in this religion yet...but I can't wait to see! Apologies for any inaccurate generalities; I'm not a theology expert. /wildSpecEndAnd if I'm wrong and have to eat pigeon crow? I don't care! What a great piece of storytelling! I might be wrong, but so what? I am pumped to experience more of this story. Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk. |
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Post by wies on Feb 28, 2020 6:45:37 GMT
Hey, welcome relevant! Starting off with a bang, I see!
It is an interesting idea, Annie becoming part of the Robot Mythology, but I think if that were to happen, we would see more focus of Robot, who has been pretty much fixated on Kat, on Annie. So less likely in my book.
But if you are right, you get dozens of cookies to eat!
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Post by madjack on Feb 28, 2020 7:39:44 GMT
That's a really good take on it, I don't think the octopus has anything to do with this though, that was more a metaphor for Kat finding a part of herself and feeling comfortable with it.
I've seen other speculation elsewhere that the bucket is representative of the box Annie found Robot in. And having just typed that, I realised my speculation earlier was wrong: It has to be Robot, there's a big red button on his head.
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Post by wies on Feb 28, 2020 7:54:05 GMT
Why do you think that? Last time we saw him, he didn't have a red button. |
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Post by madjack on Feb 28, 2020 7:56:23 GMT
Because his original seraph body did.
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Post by wies on Feb 28, 2020 7:58:57 GMT
Oh, that makes sense!
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Post by madjack on Feb 28, 2020 8:01:45 GMT
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand as usual, we're all wrong.
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Post by relevant on Feb 28, 2020 8:04:42 GMT
Hey, welcome relevant! Starting off with a bang, I see! It is an interesting idea, Annie becoming part of the Robot Mythology, but I think if that were to happen, we would see more focus of Robot, who has been pretty much fixated on Kat, on Annie. So less likely in my book. But if you are right, you get dozens of cookies to eat! Ha! Thanks, glad to finally contribute. You make a great point, and it clarifies Shadow's role in my theories. A big theme of the comic (at least to me) as always been duality - Court/Forest, Ether/Science, Kat/Annie, Mortal/Immortal, Frannie/Courtney, and so on and so forth. It's a good narrative corollary to think that Shadow becomes prophet (at least in myth - wouldn't put it past toad-bro to embellish a very straight-forward statement from Shadow about Annie) to Annie's burgeoning myth in parallel to Robot's fixation with Kat. In any case, I don't think the Robot Religion + Goddess Kat need be the exact same as...whatever's happening with Annie. Historically, tons of religions have the similar origins (the Abrahamic big three, or Hinduism and Buddhism), but multiple prophets pop up in separate regions, or disciples squabble, or you get 95 complaints nailed to a door. It wouldn't surprise me if there are different denominations of the Robot Mythology (Seraphs vs Robot King) or even full on departure to a related but not-the-same myth. We've already started to see Shadow's unhappiness with Robot's evangelizing despite their super cute relationship and love for one another (sorry, can't be arsed right now to find the page where Robot is being prophet-y and Shadow is looking sad in the background.) |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 28, 2020 8:04:56 GMT
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand as usual, we're all wrong. Meh, I was close. |
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Post by wies on Feb 28, 2020 8:05:23 GMT
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand as usual, we're all wrong. Well, my guess could still work! |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 28, 2020 8:10:50 GMT
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Post by madjack on Feb 28, 2020 8:11:58 GMT
Well, my guess could still work! Oh, fine. * Hands over cookie platter* |
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Post by relevant on Feb 28, 2020 8:14:27 GMT
I still stand by my previous statement! i.e. romanticized psychopomp-Annie. We've already seen how etheric representations hardly correlate to the physical form.
But it does occur to me that this green-eye'd, fair hair'd, rock-sitting representation interface may be the disappointing Diego-robot death psychopomp direct comparison to the early-chapter Annie-Kat-Robot interactions.
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Post by Runningflame on Feb 29, 2020 4:17:32 GMT
I don't think the octopus has anything to do with this though, that was more a metaphor for Kat finding a part of herself and feeling comfortable with it. Sometimes a floating octopus is just a floating octopus. |
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