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Post by Per on Feb 21, 2020 8:01:23 GMT
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Post by madjack on Feb 21, 2020 8:02:35 GMT
Welp, that's it, the pair of them won't last the next chapter.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 21, 2020 8:03:02 GMT
Another vote registered for keeping Antimony as a duo.
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Post by shadow3 on Feb 21, 2020 8:07:38 GMT
When the original Annie of Gunnerkrigg Court comes back, we'll be seeing three.
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Post by arf on Feb 21, 2020 8:22:56 GMT
I like Zimmy's final quip at the end, but it would have been even better if Gamma had responded with a single "She is"
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 21, 2020 8:22:56 GMT
Looks like they're on a rooftop. Can't really think of anything else to say about the bonus page so here's a link for the younger and/or non-American readers to a old commercial from a very old advertising campaign, just in case any old ninjas decide to make jokes/references. The tagline at the close of that commercial became more prominent in later ads. |
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Post by philman on Feb 21, 2020 8:24:59 GMT
Yaaah! I know it is just perspective and not mentally adjusting to them growing up, but Giant Gamma keeps throwing me off on some pages.
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Post by Kuraimizu on Feb 21, 2020 8:35:15 GMT
I like the two of them, Annie deserved to have a sister, someone that really understands her. they work well together. the problem is the answer Kat got when she asked "Which Annie shouldn't be in this timeline?" www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2162"Neither of them should be here." but that is the same as saying, the timeline, where Loup exists, shouldn't exist, or that Annie should never have met with Loup. The only way to fix this would be to literally erase one of the timelines starting at the point where Coyote gave Ysengrin his strength. or stopping Ysengrin the moment he tried to kill Coyote. Or preventing Annie from going into the Forest to meet Loup the first time, Preventing Loup from duplicating Annie in the first place. Kat has been obsessing about this problem, she has 3 options. 1. Fuse both Annies into one new person with the memories of both, having two Fire Spirits, and double the power, allowing herself to have one child without dying. 2. Pulling a third Annie from an alternate timeline where she never meets Loup in the forest. Leaving an alternate reality with Loup in control, and no Annie to fight him, And a Kat that never sees her best friend ever again. 3. Kat and the two Annies travel back in time to erase the current timeline. After succeeding, 3A. Kat and the two Annies would fade out of existence, back to the future style, after the right timeline gets established as the prime reality, leaving one Kat and one Annie. or 3B. They'd create a new timeline, with 2 Kats and 3 Annies, Quantum Timelines Multiverse theory. |
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Post by wies on Feb 21, 2020 8:42:29 GMT
Makes sense Zimmy likes Annie. We know Annie is both attuned to Etherical beings and already has enough experience with the strange that she is neither afraid nor repulsed by Zimmy. I think that is an unusual experience for Zimmy who has been less positively regarded by many characters. Jack, Annie and Gamma, those are the only people, so far, who do not dislike her.
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Post by arf on Feb 21, 2020 8:44:18 GMT
All I will say about the tangled timelines is that I think Tom has thought the main themes through to the end.
... or maybe that was the Tom in the timeline without Loup?
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Post by Isactuallyabear on Feb 21, 2020 8:57:13 GMT
Gamma and Zimmy are cute here. Yaaah! I know it is just perspective and not mentally adjusting to them growing up, but Giant Gamma keeps throwing me off on some pages.
Yeah it's a little weird for me too. Zimmy looks tiny next to Gamma.
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Post by arf on Feb 21, 2020 9:13:53 GMT
I don't think we've seen Zimmy and Gamma since the cruise, which was over eighteen months ago, Court time. Looking back, I can see Gamma was about half a head taller than Zimmy then |
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Post by Elysium on Feb 21, 2020 9:40:47 GMT
but that is the same as saying, the timeline, where Loup exists, shouldn't exist, or that Annie should never have met with Loup. It doesn't, the fact that the twin Annie both believed they were from this timeline means that all the events leading to Annie going to talk to Loup in the forest played out exactly the same in all 3 timelines, including the existence of Loup. The thing is that there's at least one timeline that has had its Annie completely evaporate, and that would be two if the "main Annie" hasn't been replacing Cannie or Fannie in their respective timeline. The question of main Annie remains a complete mystery, and that's likely eating Kat inside out. |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 21, 2020 9:40:55 GMT
Aw.
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Post by migrantworker on Feb 21, 2020 12:02:06 GMT
That Gamma's 'nice girl' comment. So diplomatic. So ambiguous.
That Zimmy's 'she is' response. So rushed. So understated.
I wouldn't be surprised if this brief conversation is meant to set us up for new and interesting consequences to occur in future chapters.
TL;DR Zimmy and Gamma might be up to something.
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Post by saardvark on Feb 21, 2020 12:02:49 GMT
Gamma and Zimmy are cute here. Yaaah! I know it is just perspective and not mentally adjusting to them growing up, but Giant Gamma keeps throwing me off on some pages.
Yeah it's a little weird for me too. Zimmy looks tiny next to Gamma.
welcome to the forum, bear-like-person! |
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Post by saardvark on Feb 21, 2020 12:07:33 GMT
That Gamma's 'nice girl' comment. So diplomatic. So ambiguous.
That Zimmy's 'she is' response. So rushed. So understated.
I wouldn't be surprised if this brief conversation is meant to set us up for new and interesting consequences to occur in future chapters.
TL;DR Zimmy and Gamma might be up to something.
"It might be nice they stuck around" ... "Yes" If they act on it - this would potentially put them on a collision course with Kat, who may well want to get rid of the current Annies (return them to their timelines) in favor of her own OrigAnnie. |
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Post by Draxiss on Feb 21, 2020 13:48:08 GMT
Just realized that it really looks like Zimmy may have delayed puberty due to malnourishment. I don't know if I'm way behind everyone else on this or not, but it'd been bumping around in the back of my head for a while now.
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 21, 2020 14:51:43 GMT
Just realized that it really looks like Zimmy may have delayed puberty due to malnourishment. I don't know if I'm way behind everyone else on this or not, but it'd been bumping around in the back of my head for a while now. That popped into my head, too. Then again, Zimmy may have always been that size/age, even when Gamma was very young. Zimmy may always be that size. I don't recall any flashback of Zimmy being younger. Unless Tom pulls a clever switcheroo, the next chapter is looking to be a doozy. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Feb 21, 2020 15:52:49 GMT
Heh. It does feel like this bonus page could have an effect on the actual plot of the comic, unlike some bonus pages.
Maybe this is why they wanted Annie to keep an eye on Kat.
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Post by mturtle7 on Feb 21, 2020 19:56:17 GMT
*dies from cuteness*
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 21, 2020 20:38:37 GMT
That Gamma's 'nice girl' comment. So diplomatic. So ambiguous.
That Zimmy's 'she is' response. So rushed. So understated.
I wouldn't be surprised if this brief conversation is meant to set us up for new and interesting consequences to occur in future chapters.
TL;DR Zimmy and Gamma might be up to something.
"It might be nice they stuck around" ... "Yes" If they act on it - this would potentially put them on a collision course with Kat, who may well want to get rid of the current Annies (return them to their timelines) in favor of her own OrigAnnie. I will so laugh my posterior off if Kat proceeds to do exactly that, only to find out OrigAnnie has been keeping Jeanne's boyfriend's skeleton company for some years in another timeline. |
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Post by saardvark on Feb 21, 2020 20:42:52 GMT
"It might be nice they stuck around" ... "Yes" If they act on it - this would potentially put them on a collision course with Kat, who may well want to get rid of the current Annies (return them to their timelines) in favor of her own OrigAnnie. I will so laugh my posterior off if Kat proceeds to do exactly that, only to find out OrigAnnie has been keeping Jeanne's boyfriend's skeleton company for some years in another timeline. you mean, as a skeleton herself? (ie, that she died falling off the bridge with no Tick-Tocs to save her?) |
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Post by Isactuallyabear on Feb 21, 2020 21:20:48 GMT
welcome to the forum, bear-like-person! Hello. ^_^ |
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Post by bedinsis on Feb 22, 2020 17:04:07 GMT
In summary I'd argue that this chapter was all over the place. With the theme: "updates from various entities".
We found out that the court is furious with the Antimonies.
We had an update on how things are going with the Tree Elves.
We found out (through Paz) that people are suspicious of AnnieF.
We found out that Kat is working furiously on something and it is causing a rift between her and Paz.
We found out that Paz is putting that on the Antimonies.
We got an update on how Zimmy and Gamma are doing, and Zimmy's perspective on magic.
If I had to chose what the chapter was really about I'd say it's about Kat's current efforts, since that's what the chapter started and ended with and the encounters with Paz, Zimmy and Gamma was all about Kat.
On the first page of this chapter I also predicted that the reason for Paz' argument with Kat would be brought up in passing, but not be the main focus of the chapter. Since the chapter was all over the place and what a reader might consider to be the main focus is a bit dependent on what parts of the story they enjoy the most it could both be argued that I was wrong and that I was right. I honestly am a bit uncertain myself, but it doesn't really matter for my ego.
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 22, 2020 17:50:45 GMT
I will so laugh my posterior off if Kat proceeds to do exactly that, only to find out OrigAnnie has been keeping Jeanne's boyfriend's skeleton company for some years in another timeline. you mean, as a skeleton herself? (ie, that she died falling off the bridge with no Tick-Tocs to save her?) Yes, that. But at least she would have had her hairclip the whole time. |
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Post by DonDueed on Feb 22, 2020 21:45:06 GMT
On the first page of this chapter I also predicted that the reason for Paz' argument with Kat would be brought up in passing, but not be the main focus of the chapter. Since the chapter was all over the place and what a reader might consider to be the main focus is a bit dependent on what parts of the story they enjoy the most it could both be argued that I was wrong and that I was right. I honestly am a bit uncertain myself, but it doesn't really matter for my ego. Have a Schrödinger's cookie. |
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Post by DonDueed on Feb 22, 2020 22:00:09 GMT
In some of the previous episodes where Zimmy and Gamma communicated wordlessly, the link was shown by faint lines between them. Not so in this bonus page.
Instead, they are talking back and forth like a spoken conversation. But instead of separate word balloons for each girl, Tom shows us a single long chain of boxes, linked to both girls.
To me this suggests that Z and G are becoming much closer than ever before, essentially becoming one mind in two bodies. It brings to mind a conversation I had with a friend years ago about what it might be like to be a true telepath. My friend was of the opinion that in such a scenario, things wouldn't be all that different from the thought process of a single person -- it would still be an internal conversation just as it is for each of us as individuals (when awake), just with different sensory inputs due to multiple bodies with more or less distance between them.
I found that to be a fascinating idea, along the lines of a hive mind. You could follow that idea down many roads, but one that strikes me is this: if one of the bodies with linked minds should die, what happens to the survivor?
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Post by saardvark on Feb 22, 2020 23:09:50 GMT
On the first page of this chapter I also predicted that the reason for Paz' argument with Kat would be brought up in passing, but not be the main focus of the chapter. Since the chapter was all over the place and what a reader might consider to be the main focus is a bit dependent on what parts of the story they enjoy the most it could both be argued that I was wrong and that I was right. I honestly am a bit uncertain myself, but it doesn't really matter for my ego. Have a Schrödinger's cookie. or a Heisenberg cookie! (Schrödinger's might have cat hair. Then again, maybe not...) |
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Post by Runningflame on Feb 23, 2020 1:07:13 GMT
Have a Schrödinger's cookie. or a Heisenberg cookie! (Schrödinger's might have cat hair. Then again, maybe not...) A Heisenberg cookie sounds difficult to eat. Either you know how fast it's moving but you don't know where it is, or you know where it is but not how fast it's moving. Generally, eating a cookie requires its location to be in your mouth and its velocity (relative to your mouth) to be zero. |
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