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Post by Per on Feb 14, 2020 8:01:30 GMT
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Post by drdave on Feb 14, 2020 8:02:28 GMT
she does have a big nose
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Post by madjack on Feb 14, 2020 8:05:30 GMT
That's totally not an altar at all, Kat. For a technological event this is coming off as extremely ritualistic.
Also I'm not sure if it was intentional but Kat is looking weirdly inhuman.
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Feb 14, 2020 8:07:37 GMT
It is pretty weird, in hindsight, that "install" is just "stall" with a prefix, given that the only way it makes sense is if we're talking about "stall" the noun, even though "install" is a verb and "stall" the verb means something completely different.
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Post by Per on Feb 14, 2020 8:12:18 GMT
It is pretty weird, in hindsight, that "install" is just "stall" with a prefix, given that the only way it makes sense is if we're talking about "stall" the noun, even though "install" is a verb and "stall" the verb means something completely different. According to Oxford's sacred dictionary the "stall" in "install" is the one that means "booth, compartment", not the one that means "play for time" (which may ultimately be the same word but taking a detour through criminal lingo). |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Feb 14, 2020 8:13:09 GMT
It is pretty weird, in hindsight, that "install" is just "stall" with a prefix, given that the only way it makes sense is if we're talking about "stall" the noun, even though "install" is a verb and "stall" the verb means something completely different. According to Oxford's sacred dictionary the "stall" in "install" is the one that means "booth, compartment", not the one that means "play for time" (which may ultimately be the same word but taking a detour through criminal lingo). Right, which is the noun. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 8:24:29 GMT
The verb and noun are cognate. Stall still means "stable" (i.e. "place where animals are at rest / halted / fixed") in German, and is directly derived from a reconstructed PIE root *stel- "to fix" (German stellen, "to put, to place"; also in Ancient Greek stéle, "post, pillar, etc." (fixed thing)). Middle Latin loaned this as stallum and then used installare figuratively to mean "to fix in a seat of office". The meanings aren't distinct even in modern English anyway, as I understand them -- "stall" is "to come to a halt" and "install" is "to make fixed within some system".
(source is Kluge on "Stall" and "installieren")
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Post by wies on Feb 14, 2020 8:33:44 GMT
Also I'm not sure if it was intentional but Kat is looking weirdly inhuman. I got the same feeling. Her eyes look weird. Past page I thought she would make bodies for all those robots, like she did for Arthur. But it now looks like she is planning something else. I hope she knows what she is doing. Or else Annie is no longer the only one in trouble with the Court. |
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Post by Per on Feb 14, 2020 8:38:21 GMT
Right, which is the noun. There's not just one noun. I'm just saying "install" is not derived from the ones that "mean something completely different". |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Feb 14, 2020 8:49:47 GMT
That's totally not an altar at all, Kat. For a technological event this is coming off as extremely ritualistic. Also I'm not sure if it was intentional but Kat is looking weirdly inhuman. She's looking pretty... robotic, by which I mean she's usually in a chipper mood, smiling or looking interested or pensive, sometimes distracted. Here she's just... going through the motions. |
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Post by Igniz on Feb 14, 2020 9:06:33 GMT
Also I'm not sure if it was intentional but Kat is looking weirdly inhuman. I got the same feeling. Her eyes look weird.  |
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Post by Futurismo on Feb 14, 2020 9:24:34 GMT
Yeah, Kat is looking very stiff and intense on the page. Laser-focused, I would say.
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Post by Timberwere on Feb 14, 2020 9:36:05 GMT
Laser-focused, but also a bit apprehensive, is my feeling.
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Post by basser on Feb 14, 2020 9:57:39 GMT
If she's about to load a bunch of robot brains into mechanical bird bodies I'ma freak.
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 14, 2020 10:23:32 GMT
Not really sure whether the display shows "installed" and the "-in" is just cut off, or it shows "stalled" referring to the state of the CPU (stalled in this case means that a processor is waiting for input).
Anyway, who wants to place bets that this time Kat finally manages to tick the Court off with her secret work? Fifty quatloos that next chapter will show her to be in trouble.
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Post by csj on Feb 14, 2020 11:48:51 GMT
the robo-doctor is in, here to do some l337 h4x on these liberated CPUs
GKC becomes cyberpunk
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Post by saardvark on Feb 14, 2020 13:34:17 GMT
Not really sure whether the display shows "installed" and the "-in" is just cut off, or it shows "stalled" referring to the state of the CPU (stalled in this case means that a processor is waiting for input). Anyway, who wants to place bets that this time Kat finally manages to tick the Court off with her secret work? Fifty quatloos that next chapter will show her to be in trouble. "Stalled" could make sense if it refers to the fact that normal robot functions were stalled (frozen) while they devoted all their energies to maintaining the bubble shield. Is Kat planning to "un-stall" all the hijacked robots? Could bring down the shield and lead to a Loup attack... she'd want to figure out a way to maintain the shield without the robots. |
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Post by jda on Feb 14, 2020 13:35:55 GMT
If she's about to load a bunch of robot brains into mechanical bird bodies I'ma freak. When reading comments, in my mind I usually depict each one being said by the Avatar's icon, so I laughed when you said : "I'ma freak", like:  |
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Post by saardvark on Feb 14, 2020 13:54:00 GMT
so Juliette has *not* left the Court? She's still "wearing the uniform" as well... acting like a spy for Kat?
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 14, 2020 14:16:08 GMT
Not really sure whether the display shows "installed" and the "-in" is just cut off, or it shows "stalled" referring to the state of the CPU (stalled in this case means that a processor is waiting for input). Anyway, who wants to place bets that this time Kat finally manages to tick the Court off with her secret work? Fifty quatloos that next chapter will show her to be in trouble. "Stalled" could make sense if it refers to the fact that normal robot functions were stalled (frozen) while they devoted all their energies to maintaining the bubble shield. Is Kat planning to "un-stall" all the hijacked robots? Could bring down the shield and lead to a Loup attack... she'd want to figure out a way to maintain the shield without the robots. The robots whose CPUs she has before her have already been shut down for the moment: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2241The shield should stay up, unless Kat succeeds in stealing many more robots' CPUs from the ones forming the shield right now. |
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Post by atteSmythe on Feb 14, 2020 14:27:34 GMT
IT'S HAPPENING
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 14, 2020 14:43:27 GMT
I'm guessing the "in" was cut off. As for whether it was a subtle style choice by Tom, or he was cutting off a spoiler(____ installed), is another question? Is she installing new code onto the chips, or installing/transferring the chip's code someplace else?
I, also, thought we'd see Kat near a bunch of new robot bodies. She might be moving their code to her own cloud(Kloud™?). With her knowledge of their code, could she make them function in a cloud? Minds without bodies thinking, talking, and seeing(through Court sensors)? How would the Robot's cult view that? The Kloud would be kind of cyber-ether afterlife like.
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Post by saardvark on Feb 14, 2020 15:06:29 GMT
"Stalled" could make sense if it refers to the fact that normal robot functions were stalled (frozen) while they devoted all their energies to maintaining the bubble shield. Is Kat planning to "un-stall" all the hijacked robots? Could bring down the shield and lead to a Loup attack... she'd want to figure out a way to maintain the shield without the robots. The robots whose CPUs she has before her have already been shut down for the moment: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2241The shield should stay up, unless Kat succeeds in stealing many more robots' CPUs from the one forming the shield right now. Not sure Ive got this right, but... The Court was removing the CPUs from shield robots and overriding them (head-crabbing?) to open a gap in the shield www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2240this suggests that the head-crabbing isn't what makes the shield... the ability to make the shield was already intrinsic in their original CPUs. (Who put the shield ability there is another interesting question...) The "head-crabbing" would seem to be the Court's way of bypassing the shield protocol and making some robots pseudo-functional again. Which sorta works, but lobotomizes them, bumming out their Angel, Kat. One interpretation could be that Kat would study the "stalled state" CPUs (stalled because they are focussed on shield generation to the exclusion of all else) to learn how the shield program works, so she could turn it off to free up some/all of them. (Other means to maintain the shield would be needed then.) Alternately, maybe she is just going to start planting the CPUs in new bodies... tho she would still have to learn how to turn off the shield program, or the newly replanted CPUs might just march their new bodies back to the shield maintainance line... |
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Post by netherdan on Feb 14, 2020 15:22:51 GMT
The robots whose CPUs she has before her have already been shut down for the moment: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2241The shield should stay up, unless Kat succeeds in stealing many more robots' CPUs from the one forming the shield right now. Not sure Ive got this right, but... The Court was removing the CPUs from shield robots and overriding them (head-crabbing?) to open a gap in the shield www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2240this suggests that the head-crabbing isn't what makes the shield... the ability to make the shield was already intrinsic in their original CPUs. (Who put the shield ability there is another interesting question...) The "head-crabbing" would seem to be the Court's way of bypassing the shield protocol and making some robots pseudo-functional again. Which sorta works, but lobotomizes them, bumming out their Angel, Kat. One interpretation could be that Kat would study the "stalled state" CPUs (stalled because they are focussed on shield generation to the exclusion of all else) to learn how the shield program works, so she could turn it off to free up some/all of them. (Other means to maintain the shield would be needed then.) Alternately, maybe she is just going to start planting the CPUs in new bodies... tho she would still have to learn how to turn off the shield program, or the newly replanted CPUs might just march their new bodies back to the shield maintainance line... She already knows how to bypass the shield program, or else Arthur would be hyped to go to maintain the shield even though he doesn't have the necessary hardware anymore. My bet is that she's transferring them either to new grown bodies (that may or may not be birds, thanks basser) or into the Kloud (haha, thanks ctso74) |
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Post by fish on Feb 14, 2020 15:51:24 GMT
the page has been updated to clear the stall/install confusion.
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Post by Gemini Jim on Feb 14, 2020 16:17:58 GMT
The giant STALLED message reminds me of those big, blinking red bomb timers in movies. They are there for the audience's sake, not the in-movie bomb designer or the bomb squad.
EDIT: I'm also surprised there's not an "end of chapter, see you next week" antimony symbol right after Kat says "we should get started."
But maybe he will end on a Wednesday, so the bonus page is on a Friday.
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Post by shadow3 on Feb 14, 2020 17:00:04 GMT
THIS IS HOW SKYNET BEGINS
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Post by aline on Feb 14, 2020 19:43:38 GMT
She’s going to make a whole army of flesh robots, isn’t she
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Post by Gemini Jim on Feb 14, 2020 20:18:58 GMT
She’s going to make a whole army of flesh robots, isn’t she She scanned the Annies, and now she's back to fiddling with robots. She's making an army of Annie-bots? |
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Post by mturtle7 on Feb 14, 2020 21:25:29 GMT
If she's about to load a bunch of robot brains into mechanical bird bodies I'ma freak. I am actually 100% on board with this theory. Making the Tic-tocs now not only fits with Kat's goals (as people have discussed before, a little), but it also just kind of fits with the heavy atmosphere of this page. |
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