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Post by netherdan on Sept 11, 2019 13:26:31 GMT
What if they can't move away from their "designated partners" because they can't move away at all? They might be stunned lying on the ground or being cocooned while having the illusion of freedom for all we know! I'm waiting to see one of the Annies trying to spy through the ether and seeing everyone knocked out with little stabs on their chests and commanding Reynard to hop out and body snatch hop all the wisps to dispel the illusion. The next thing will be them finding out they have wisp larvae eating their insides (by pulling out the dead one from Reynard's plushie) and dealing with how to kill/remove the bastards before they chest-burst their way out I got the cocooning right and the ether vision wrong. That makes it zero cookie points. Now I need the Anwyn person to hint at the possibility of chest larvae if I'm to have any baked goods. By the way, how did she got smacked in the eye if Parley was cocooned? Do mind punches count? Is that a Matrix reference? |
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Post by Jota on Sept 11, 2019 13:49:20 GMT
I mean...the illusion already seemed to have had more than one layer. Or how could Parley have been hit with a thrown rock/lump of clay, if they are all tied up? (Granted, we have not yet seen whether Cvet is also stuck in the webs, but her attempt at flying showed that she was deep inside the illusory world as well.)
I suspect they weren't trapped like this when the illusion first started. The purpose of the illusion was probably to make it easier for the wisps to web them up without anyone realizing it. In which case, they've presumably been getting increasingly more restrained as the chapter progressed, and at the time of the rock, Cvet at least still had her hands free. In fact, I suspect that in the first few pages of the chapter they were completely free, and that our new friend initially got her injuries back in www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2175. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Sept 11, 2019 14:52:42 GMT
I don't get it... if they are bound to the walls... how could they throw stones to each other or beat each other? Oh, I imagine it's one of those "If you die in the game, you die for real!" things. The Matrix has you, and so forth. Probably, the wisps know how to link dream illusions. They might have been trapped from the very start. |
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Post by alevice on Sept 11, 2019 14:54:02 GMT
I like how beefy paz became.
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Post by alevice on Sept 11, 2019 15:00:35 GMT
Hey but serously, do we know any other anwyn with brown hair?Most i recall have wild colors like blue etc
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Post by alevice on Sept 11, 2019 15:02:00 GMT
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Post by alevice on Sept 11, 2019 15:03:03 GMT
Also why wards can work in dreamscape while etheric powers cant?
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Post by ohthatone on Sept 11, 2019 15:48:38 GMT
Also why wards can work in dreamscape while etheric powers cant? maybe they wanted the wards to work to lure everyone where they wanted them? or i guess for some reason wards aren't under the same rules as ether powers (like how the Annies were able to talk to Rey but not use their powers) and the wisps have no way of interrupting them. the counter argument would be what about the ineffective radios but to that i ask were the redshirts even real? I know it's weak, but it's all i got. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Sept 11, 2019 16:22:18 GMT
Is this going to become a thing? Where new characters are all Paz, unless they're male, in which case they are That Guy?
I'd be OK with that.
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 11, 2019 16:39:52 GMT
I doubt chestbursters are a problem in short term. They are not brussel sprouts. Looming threat, maybe. Wisps who live in webbed houses shouldn't predate on fire elementals. Well, they all are there. So no going full "fire spike". |
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Post by Eily on Sept 11, 2019 17:09:31 GMT
By the way, how did she got smacked in the eye if Parley was cocooned? Do mind punches count? Is that a Matrix reference? Came here to ask the same question. And I wonder if Greenie was ever in the illusion or she was awake all along, and the fight with Parley was actually the Wisp's way of trying to hide the fact that Greenie was trying to wake her up. If Parley partially woke up and managed to move, she might have been the one hurting their new ally. And her opponent turning green and more monstruous might have come from a slip of the illusion when she was starting to wake up. The monster does seem to react to the rumbling, but Greenie's word do make it sound like she has been awake for a while, so maybe the rumble was actually something happening in real life, and the wisps masked it again? Another question, why did the groups end up as they were (eg Parley + her Pal Rey) when they have nothing to do with how close they were in the nest? |
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Post by DonDueed on Sept 11, 2019 18:42:45 GMT
Onto the page: maaaaaaaaaaaan those wisps are in TROUBBBBBLLLLLLLEEEEE. But now I'm wondering: what was all the fighting about? Why would they fight each other in mind-space, what good would that do to the little buggers? Perhaps it was a distraction, keeping the captives' minds occupied with imaginary conflicts while missing the real threat -- namely the wisps laying their eggs inside their bodies so they could be consumed alive from the inside out by the wisp larvae.
ETA: Doh! I see netherdan covered this quite a while ago. Note to self: read all pages of comments before chiming in.
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Post by netherdan on Sept 11, 2019 19:36:10 GMT
Onto the page: maaaaaaaaaaaan those wisps are in TROUBBBBBLLLLLLLEEEEE. But now I'm wondering: what was all the fighting about? Why would they fight each other in mind-space, what good would that do to the little buggers? Perhaps it was a distraction, keeping the captives' minds occupied with imaginary conflicts while missing the real threat -- namely the wisps laying their eggs inside their bodies so they could be consumed alive from the inside out by the wisp larvae.
ETA: Doh! I see netherdan covered this quite a while ago. Note to self: read all pages of comments before chiming in.
Perhaps timing the sting to the fight outcome so that they would mistake it for a broken rib or a cut. That would make a lot of sense in my opinion. They're kinda like wasps and their MO is too mix truths with lies! |
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Post by caber on Sept 11, 2019 19:36:45 GMT
It could just be that her hair is disheveled, but it Parley looks to have longer hair after waking up... how long HAVE they been out?
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Post by mturtle7 on Sept 11, 2019 19:44:34 GMT
Well that at least clarifies who the green girl is (new character), but now I'm more confused than ever about what exactly the wisps were doing!!! Even if everyone had her hands free the whole time (which I doubt), they obviously couldn't move around and change their position in relation to the others. So why could they still see the others moving around in monster form? How were Court Annie and Eglamore able to get close to Parley's group? And even if Cvet could make rock throwing motions, there shouldn't have been a rock to throw in the first place!! And most confusing of all, what the heck was up with people not being able to use their "natural" abilities but still being able to use wards?!?
EDIT: Should really make sure to read all the comment pages before making a new post. Jota seems to have come up with a pretty good explanation for the fighting and stuff, but it still doesn't really explain what Eglamore and Court Annie did. And alevice and ohthatone already brought up the wards thing, but don't really have a satisfying explanation. So, I stand by my outraged questions. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Sept 11, 2019 21:12:31 GMT
Wisps who live in webbed houses shouldn't predate on fire elementals. Well, they all are there. So no going full "fire spike". On the contrary, the Antimonies' fire burns only what they want it to burn so it's ideal in a situation like this. Even if this is a new level of illusion they can just set their flames to "wisp" and splash fire everywhere.  [edit] "Wisp" and "webbing" [/edit] |
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Post by Per on Sept 11, 2019 21:52:05 GMT
It could just be that her hair is disheveled, but it Parley looks to have longer hair after waking up... how long HAVE they been out? Parley: How long have we been out? Forest Annie: *swivels around in chair* Six months! CAUGHT UP, BITCHES! AHAHAHA! *sips tea* |
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Post by todd on Sept 11, 2019 23:48:59 GMT
Is this going to become a thing? Where new characters are all Paz, unless they're male, in which case they are That Guy? It reminded me of how for so long, so many of the readers were convinced that the "Third Girl" in the photograph was either a younger version of Jones or Gamma's mother (most often a younger version of Jones) before we finally found out it was an entirely new character (and one who hasn't even shown up yet in the present-day portion of the comic). |
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Post by Igniz on Sept 11, 2019 23:58:55 GMT
I had also suspected an outcome like this, but I had pictured them all standing in one place instead of being cocconed by the Xenomorphs Brood wisps.  Regarding the "Anwyn" girl, it remains to be seen if she really is part of said people, and if she also was a direct victim or was just integrated into the illusion by proximity alone. Also why wards can work in dreamscape while etheric powers cant? I guess that, being a lucid dream-like experience it follows a similar set of rules (as similar illusions and mind manipulation seen in other media do), and it's just as when someone can't run, throw a punch or scream in a dream, but can perform other actions and activities without problem, including some that they can't actually do, like flying, teleporting, matter manipulation or shapeshifting (we saw the latter a few pages ago, in fact). |
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Post by csj on Sept 12, 2019 4:33:05 GMT
It's almost as if the way the Court uses etheric magic is incomprehensible/obscured by design in ways the wisps as Forest creatures can't predict and/or account for. (those wondering what was about to happen would be well advised not to google wasp reproduction strategies during lunch, especially those involving other insects and yes, even other wasps...) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 6:30:36 GMT
Hey but serously, do we know any other anwyn with brown hair?Most i recall have wild colors like blue etc I still think "Anwyn" is not the name of the species, but of a certain family |
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Post by hnau on Sept 12, 2019 8:24:05 GMT
So, the new girl is either pest control or drug squad? "You are arrested for overdosing on wisp hallucinogens!"
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Post by netherdan on Sept 12, 2019 10:49:21 GMT
(those wondering what was about to happen would be well advised not to google wasp reproduction strategies during lunch, especially those involving other insects and yes, even other wasps...) Or what could have already happened. They didn't check for unknown stabby wounds yet! |
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 12, 2019 11:01:37 GMT
Another question, why did the groups end up as they were (eg Parley + her Pal Rey) when they have nothing to do with how close they were in the nest? My theory is that the wisps estimated pairing them up in unfamiliar combinations would take up the most brain power they could have otherwise used to realize they were in an illusion. Hey but serously, do we know any other anwyn with brown hair?Most i recall have wild colors like blue etc I still think "Anwyn" is not the name of the species, but of a certain family Must be a pretty big family then, if they have their own prince. Also why wards can work in dreamscape while etheric powers cant? Who says the wards did work? If the wisps can create an illusory world, they would have no problem adding a fake compass arrow. Me too, I mean I guess the haircuts are sort of similar? That's about it. It is, it really is just that, the haircut. People want to categorize. Me too, I mean I guess the haircuts are sort of similar? That's about it. Fandoms gonna fandom. I...well. Some of your earthlings' more peculiar behaviours still elude me. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Sept 12, 2019 11:36:34 GMT
So, the new girl is either pest control or drug squad? "You are arrested for overdosing on wisp hallucinogens!" Hmmm...Maybe she's just someone that the Court medium met in the Wood who happened to have the right skill set or ability to get his gf out of a jam, and just so happened to show up at the exact right time for a seemingly coincidental reason... |
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Post by netherdan on Sept 12, 2019 11:42:19 GMT
So, the new girl is either pest control or drug squad? "You are arrested for overdosing on wisp hallucinogens!" Hmmm...Maybe she's just someone that the Court medium met in the Wood who happened to have the right skill set or ability to get his gf out of a jam, and just so happened to show up at the exact right time for a seemingly coincidental reason... And was also conveniently out of the woods during the time freeze shenanigans! |
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Post by alevice on Sept 12, 2019 15:03:04 GMT
KamlenI still think "Anwyn" is not the name of the species, but of a certain family Must be a pretty big family then, if they have their own prince. To be fair, that source of information likes to go over the top, since we know Annie didnt train for 100 years (or did she?  ) Still find it slly they can fake stone throws, magic compasses, but they cant fake etheric fire. |
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 12, 2019 15:17:24 GMT
To be fair, that source of information likes to go over the top, since we know Annie didnt train for 100 years (or did she? ) Certainly, though I do hope that the Forest denizens know whether the Anwyn are a people or a family. Theory: Wisps can fake normal sensory impressions (the assumption here being that the compass thing can be handled by faking the haptic and muscular impression of clapping one's hands together, and the visual impression of an arrow), but they cannot fake Etheric impressions. Or at least not good enough to be sure they could successfully fool a half-elemental. |
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Post by DonDueed on Sept 12, 2019 15:43:30 GMT
A couple other thoughts...
Panel 2: Green Gal has a wrap on her wrist as well as the upper arm. Could that be a subtle clue that she is, in fact, this timeline's "real" Antimony?
Panel 4: We see Parley, both Annies, (probably) Rey, and one other person -- probably that guy. But where's Cvet? Maybe in the foreground in front of George? But in any case, no sign of any redshirts. Were they ever there at all, or were they just parts of the wisp-lucinations?
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Post by Per on Sept 12, 2019 16:02:16 GMT
We see Parley, both Annies, (probably) Rey, and one other person -- probably that guy. But where's Cvet? Cvet: *swivels around in chair* Is unable to move, yes? Then perhaps you stay and politely listen to gossip for once. Parley: F-for how long? Forest Annie: *swivels around in the same chair* Six months! AHAHAHA! *sips tea* |
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