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Post by zaferion on Jan 14, 2019 16:54:32 GMT
First they worry that Annie might set them on fire, now they're referring to Courtney as the "other" Annie. Their language and actions keep singling Courtney out as the weird Annie here, but maybe I'm just reading too much into it
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Post by ctso74 on Jan 14, 2019 17:16:16 GMT
I love her innocent eagerness in panel three. she wants to see Kat, and probably also get some resolution of the Annie-vs-Annie struggle... Since seeing the phrase "Annie-vs-Annie struggle", the Amok Fight Scene music keeps playing in my head. I keep envisioning the Annies in a fight circle, with their friends surrounding and cheering them on. Money exchanges hands quickly underneath a banner that says, " Who will be Annie PRIME?" Things have changed in these last months... things have changed... Maybe, the comical vibe of today's comic indicates, that the tension between the Annies will be more mature. Still got to be rough dividing up all your stuff, though. |
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Post by Trillium on Jan 14, 2019 17:50:19 GMT
This page of Gunnerkrigg Court is just too funny!
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 14, 2019 19:18:45 GMT
Still trying to figure out why this has to be done secretly and at night. Maybe Anthony still doesn't know about the arrow in Kat's lab and that somehow would figure into the testing they've got planned? Or maybe they want to do this testing discreetly so as to have more flexibility with the fate of any Antimony who's declared a fake? Kat's lab is "very near one of the affected areas" so the Court might/should want to send escorts if they're visiting it. (btw: Robot and Shadow should be there) |
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Post by Corvo on Jan 14, 2019 20:30:45 GMT
First they worry that Annie might set them on fire, now they're referring to Courtney as the "other" Annie. Their language and actions keep singling Courtney out as the weird Annie here, but maybe I'm just reading too much into it
Two friends with the same name/nickname: The one not present is always "the other...". But they're both the weird ones. |
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Post by shadow3 on Jan 14, 2019 20:34:11 GMT
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Post by tustin2121 on Jan 14, 2019 20:47:08 GMT
First they worry that Annie might set them on fire, now they're referring to Courtney as the "other" Annie. Their language and actions keep singling Courtney out as the weird Annie here, but maybe I'm just reading too much into it I think you're reading too much into it. The pause there seems to me like he was just gonna say "...to see Kat and Annie", and halfway through he realized he was talking to Annie, and might have wanted to not sound rude to Annie or potentially express any opinions he might have about which Annie is Annie. I mean, it's a fine line to walk. You want to be friends with Annie, but not with Annie, because Annie is the real Annie, and Annie is the fake Annie. Since Annie hates Annie, if you're friends with Annie, you're just ruining any relationship you had with Annie if you so much as give the time of day to Annie. But then if Annie turns out to be the fake Annie and Annie the real Annie, then Annie is not gonna like you very much for siding with Annie, and you don't want to get on Annie's bad side. ...And they have yet to work out a "Courtnie/Fannie" system like we have, because it's still the same day for them and it's been months for us, so this discussion is gonna be fun.  |
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Post by tustin2121 on Jan 14, 2019 20:49:23 GMT
First they worry that Annie might set them on fire, now they're referring to Courtney as the "other" Annie. Their language and actions keep singling Courtney out as the weird Annie here, but maybe I'm just reading too much into it
Two friends with the same name/nickname: The one not present is always "the other...". But they're both the weird ones.Also this. My sister has a friend with the same name as her (pronounced the same but spelled differently) so there are always some fun semantic gymnastics to be had when talking about them. |
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Post by Runningflame on Jan 14, 2019 21:36:17 GMT
What about this jerk? I don't understand the last two panels. What is Fannie pointing at? Where is Renard looking? How do they infer that she is real? If I hadn't seen the WilliamXJanet test already predicted on these forums, it would've taken me a while to figure out today's page too. Could've been a little clearer what Annie was pointing at. Hehe... so how are William and Janet going to explain to the others why they know she's real, eh?  |
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 14, 2019 21:40:41 GMT
Actually now I think about it, I can see Janet and Winsbury wanting to know if their secret is still safe, that would be plenty of motivation on its own. They might get the idea to ask Fannie if she knows what their secret is, to test if she is real. Does that qualify for half a cookie for each of us? |
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Post by Runningflame on Jan 14, 2019 21:41:40 GMT
They might get the idea to ask Fannie if she knows what their secret is, to test if she is real. Does that qualify for half a cookie for each of us? I was just about to award you the cookies, and encourage you to share one with madjack . |
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Post by Eversist on Jan 14, 2019 21:56:53 GMT
I thought it was pretty obvious what Annie was referring to with W+J. Then again, I re-read portions on this comic on the regular, so everything's pretty fresh. Edit: A lot of people are struggling in the page comments too. Everyone has homework: reread the comic.  Still trying to figure out why this has to be done secretly and at night. [...] It's taking place at night because *mood*!  Also maybe they don't want to deal with adults. |
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Post by madjack on Jan 14, 2019 22:10:21 GMT
They might get the idea to ask Fannie if she knows what their secret is, to test if she is real. Does that qualify for half a cookie for each of us? I'll take that deal. |
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Post by mturtle7 on Jan 14, 2019 22:56:35 GMT
Still trying to figure out why this has to be done secretly and at night. Maybe Anthony still doesn't know about the arrow in Kat's lab and that somehow would figure into the testing they've got planned? Or maybe they want to do this testing discreetly so as to have more flexibility with the fate of any Antimony who's declared a fake? Kat's lab is "very near one of the affected areas" so the Court might/should want to send escorts if they're visiting it. (btw: Robot and Shadow should be there) You know, between Power Station, Faraway Morning, and now this, we've seen the kids try to sneak out at night undetected for increasingly vague and trivial reasons. Now I really have to wonder if they just do this ALL THE TIME for COMPLETELY POINTLESS reasons, like it's a tradition.
"Annie, quick, wake up! We've got to sneak past the cameras and dorm monitors to attend a secret meeting at 3 AM sharp!" "Really? What for?"
"John found a cool rock, and he wants to show it off to the rest of us." "..." "It's pretty important, ok."
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Post by warrl on Jan 14, 2019 23:55:18 GMT
Now I really have to wonder if they just do this ALL THE TIME for COMPLETELY POINTLESS reasons, like it's a tradition. I believe it IS a tradition, dating back to approximately the time that adults started trying to regulate teenagers' sex lives. But I don't think it's pointless. In fact, I suspect that if it weren't a well-established tradition the human species would have gone extinct. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 15, 2019 0:12:09 GMT
Now I really have to wonder if they just do this ALL THE TIME for COMPLETELY POINTLESS reasons, like it's a tradition. I believe it IS a tradition, dating back to approximately the time that adults started trying to regulate teenagers' sex lives. But I don't think it's pointless. In fact, I suspect that if it weren't a well-established tradition the human species would have gone extinct. I'm old enough that my childhood was gloriously free of cctv and people taking pics with phones, as I suspect most of you are. Maybe your experiences are different but my compatriots and I didn't sneak out to do things. That would have been a drag. We snuck out to do nuthin. Didn't really go places either, as we could do nuthin nearly anywhere. Of course if we had been rich it might have been a different story, but I suspect we would still have done nuthin... just in fancier places. |
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Post by todd on Jan 15, 2019 0:21:48 GMT
I still suspect that the Court tolerates this kind of behavior (provided that the kids aren't clumsy enough to get caught) since rulebreakers are more likely to take part in a lot of the things that the Court gets up to than law-abiding people. (And that when they punish them, it's not for breaking the rules, but for getting caught - a tone of "You're going to have to learn to handle coverups of illegal/immoral behavior a lot better").
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Post by speedwell on Jan 15, 2019 11:19:33 GMT
Say, now that Forest Annie has come back, why doesn't she wear her makeup?
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 15, 2019 15:58:06 GMT
Say, now that Forest Annie has come back, why doesn't she wear her makeup? Maybe Courtney did not grant her access to the makeup. |
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Post by Timberwere on Jan 15, 2019 16:47:36 GMT
Say, now that Forest Annie has come back, why doesn't she wear her makeup? Maybe Courtney did not grant her access to the makeup. Also, it's not even the next day yet. She had dinner with Tony then went to bed at some point - I don't think she would have bothered to put it on for however many hours there were in between. The next morning, perhaps, and perhaps only after having cleared with Tony that it's okay. |
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Post by netherdan on Jan 15, 2019 18:20:21 GMT
Maybe Courtney did not grant her access to the makeup. Also, it's not even the next day yet. She had dinner with Tony then went to bed at some point - I don't think she would have bothered to put it on for however many hours there were in between. The next morning, perhaps, and perhaps only after having cleared with Tony that it's okay. Didn't she ditch the makeup? Weren't forumites alerted to Courtmony using makeup as a suspicion of fakeness? Am I forgetting something? |
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Post by Mitth'raw'nuruodo on Jan 15, 2019 19:39:10 GMT
Also, it's not even the next day yet. She had dinner with Tony then went to bed at some point - I don't think she would have bothered to put it on for however many hours there were in between. The next morning, perhaps, and perhaps only after having cleared with Tony that it's okay. Didn't she ditch the makeup? Weren't forumites alerted to Courtmony using makeup as a suspicion of fakeness? Am I forgetting something? I think that is the case. Fannie moved on as a person and a character. Courtnie seems to be reverting. I don't wonder if Courtnie isn't some Coyote-lead "backup" of Annie from a while back, just aged up. |
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Post by tiberius on Jan 15, 2019 19:41:16 GMT
Still trying to figure out why this has to be done secretly and at night. Maybe Anthony still doesn't know about the arrow in Kat's lab and that somehow would figure into the testing they've got planned? Or maybe they want to do this testing discreetly so as to have more flexibility with the fate of any Antimony who's declared a fake? Kat's lab is "very near one of the affected areas" so the Court might/should want to send escorts if they're visiting it. (btw: Robot and Shadow should be there)
This leads into my thoughts which of both Annies is the real or right or better one.
Light a candle, use this candle to light a second one. Now, ask yourself which of these flames is the real one.
You can't. Loup divided Annie in two parts, kept one of them for a chat and send the other one back. This is why their memories up until the point of meeting loup are shared.
I fear Annie's human side played a role in this too, though. I would suspect that you can't divide a human soul or human feelings by two and keep both sides exactly the same. This is why both Annies are different from my point of view. While Forest-Annie seems more lively and compassionate, Annie from the court is more serious and hints at a high nose theme.
Even their appearances hint at their different versions of one Annie. Forest Annie is exactly this. The type of Annie I would envision as the medium of the forest. Long, wild hair, forest colorthed cloathing, broad smile even in a situation of stress. On the other side is Court Annie the version of Annie which stays at the court. Short hair, makeup, plain clothes, serious face expressions and even complicit in helping getting creatures from the forest killed on a train.
Now, let's come to what the kids have planned. Even though 'the kids' have grown up quite some over the time. I agree with you that - from my point of view - it likely has to do with the arrow. Kat might still remember how Annie saw Kat when dealing with the Arrow all this time ago and hopes for a different reaction from both of them. If so, I don't think there will be a difference. Both Annies will have the same connection to the ether still.
But what could be triggered is a meeting of both Annies in the ether, a confrontation and them coming together as one single sprit. This might look quite interesting in the real world as in which clothes are they ending up in, but I don't want to go there, to be honest. (unless Jones has something comedic to add, there based on her recent experiences) In the end, Annie pulls herself together, literally. Once more.
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Post by fia on Jan 15, 2019 21:00:14 GMT
Can I make a prediction? I think Kat might want the two Annies to meet in her workshop. She might test their connection to Renard (or test them some other way) using her computer which must have decrypted some of Annie's ether code. |
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Post by stef1987 on Jan 15, 2019 22:26:22 GMT
I don't understand the last two panels. What is Fannie pointing at? Where is Renard looking? How do they infer that she is real? She knows those two are dating and it's still a super secret to everyone else. how does she know? was this ever established? |
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Post by The Anarch on Jan 15, 2019 23:16:11 GMT
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Post by stef1987 on Jan 16, 2019 15:28:36 GMT
I completely forgot about that. thanks! |
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Post by todd on Jan 17, 2019 0:11:53 GMT
I completely forgot about that. thanks! After seeing all the confused responses here, I can't resist thinking that the ideal Bonus Page for this chapter might be Tea doing another not-quite-apology for the assumption that the readers would have remembered that chapter where Annie found out about Winsbury and Janet (to match the Bonus Page for that one). |
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Post by warrl on Jan 17, 2019 5:33:29 GMT
I was kind of under the impression that ALL the kids know about that relationship, but also know that Janet and William think it's a secret known only to themselves (not being aware that W&J know that Annie knows).
After all, it's much easier to keep a relationship secret if most of the people you're trying to hide it from are knowingly helping you hide it.
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 17, 2019 22:05:25 GMT
Kat at least really thought Winsbury was single and would ask Annie out.
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Also maybe they don't want to deal with adults.
