[2090] "No, it's MY favorite jumper!"

[gillyc]

Delurking to say, I'm really looking forward to seeing Annie have a nice conversation with her dad. It looks like he's spent the last few months getting closer to Court!Annie and finally being a real dad, and now Forest!Annie will be reaping the benefits of that. I'm sure she'll be a bit surprised, but I think she'll be really happy; she deserves it.

[speedwell]

Look, folks. Court Annie has had six months of being pointed at by everyone else as The Cause Of All Of This. I'd be pretty damn sarcastic and distant if I had to put up with that, too. Perhaps Tony is not laughing with comfortable amusement but because he has to break it to Forest Annie what the score is.

[speedwell]

Oh, wait just a cotton-pickin' minute here. COURT Annie doesn't know that FOREST Annie doesn't wear that jumper anymore.

Do you realise what that means?

They don't share a history. They aren't the same person split off at a specific point in time.

Ho Lee Crap. I literally just got chills.

Edit: By implication, none of the other people are exactly the same, either.

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Ayilu? Ayilu, that's enough, babe. Cut it out.

[The Anarch]

Dec 31, 2018 22:32:49 GMT speedwell said:

Oh, wait just a cotton-pickin' minute here. COURT Annie doesn't know that FOREST Annie doesn't wear that jumper anymore.

Do you realise what that means?

They don't share a history. They aren't the same person split off at a specific point in time.

Or she just didn't remember when the decision to stop wearing it happened because it was over six months ago for her while for Forest Annie it mighta been only like a week ago.

Or she's trying to pull a fast one and give away an article of clothing she doesn't like anymore like one might do with a sibling, forgetting for a moment that the other Annie is inherently wise to her shenanigans.

Or maybe during the time skip she started liking and wearing that one again and simply forgot that it would still be out of favor with her time-skipped self.

I mean. There's alternatives is all I'm sayin'.

[zaferion]

Uh oh. Is Tony loosening up around Fannie because he's undone 40-odd years of anxiety in the last 6 months, or because he doesn't actually see her as his daughter? I don't think I'm going to like the answer.

[speedwell]

Dec 31, 2018 22:46:38 GMT The Anarch said:

I mean. There's alternatives is all I'm sayin'.

Are you acquainted with the same Tom Siddell the rest of us are?

[Runningflame]

Piling onto the Court!Annie defense bandwagon:

One of the things we know about Annie is that she fears abandonment, so the notion that she might lose any of her few friends is intolerable. We've also seen that the concept of sharing a friend with someone else is a bit foreign to her. (See again previous link: she sees Kat with Paz and feels like she's losing Kat.) So now we have somebody showing up who appears to have a good claim to every single relationship in Annie's life. Court!Annie fears she may lose everybody who is close to her, all at once. Thus, her possessiveness: about Tony on a previous page, and about Kat and Renard on this one. She's in "circle the wagons" mode.

Frankly, I'm impressed that Court!Annie offered to give some of her clothes to Forest!Annie, without anyone prompting her.

[warrl]

Dec 31, 2018 22:46:38 GMT The Anarch said:

Dec 31, 2018 22:32:49 GMT speedwell said:

Oh, wait just a cotton-pickin' minute here. COURT Annie doesn't know that FOREST Annie doesn't wear that jumper anymore.

Do you realise what that means?

They don't share a history. They aren't the same person split off at a specific point in time.

Or she just didn't remember when the decision to stop wearing it happened because it was over six months ago for her while for Forest Annie it mighta been only like a week ago.

Or she's trying to pull a fast one and give away an article of clothing she doesn't like anymore like one might do with a sibling, forgetting for a moment that the other Annie is inherently wise to her shenanigans.

Or maybe during the time skip she started liking and wearing that one again and simply forgot that it would still be out of favor with her time-skipped self.

I mean. There's alternatives is all I'm sayin'.

Or they DO share a history, and Court!Annie either hasn't fully realized it or is snottily denying it. She doesn't like that jumper (or maybe thinks it's too small) so is willing to give it away... meanwhile Forest!Annie, having exactly the same tastes, also doesn't like that jumper so doesn't want it.

[Runningflame]

Dec 31, 2018 22:32:49 GMT speedwell said:

They don't share a history. They aren't the same person split off at a specific point in time.

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Ayilu? Ayilu, that's enough, babe. Cut it out.

 I don't think this is what's going on, but I got a good chuckle out of the implication that Ayilu is doing the whole thing just to mess with Annie's head.

[yinglung]

Dec 31, 2018 22:48:13 GMT zaferion said:

Uh oh. Is Tony loosening up around Fannie because he's undone 40-odd years of anxiety in the last 6 months, or because he doesn't actually see her as his daughter? I don't think I'm going to like the answer.

I wouldn't say he has undone 40 years of anxiety. Look at every shot of Tony this chapter. He is deadpan expressionless every time, except for this page. So we probably have another instance of Tony being more comfortable in one-on-one conversations, with the implication that he and Court!Annie have interacted enough to lower their emotional wariness around each other. The fact that he is smiling and laughing here is actually a positive sign that he thinks of Forest!Annie as his daughter as well.

[penguinguy]

Jan 1, 2019 0:13:15 GMT Runningflame said:

Piling onto the Court!Annie defense bandwagon:

One of the things we know about Annie is that she fears abandonment, so the notion that she might lose any of her few friends is intolerable. We've also seen that the concept of sharing a friend with someone else is a bit foreign to her. (See again previous link: she sees Kat with Paz and feels like she's losing Kat.) So now we have somebody showing up who appears to have a good claim to every single relationship in Annie's life. Court!Annie fears she may lose everybody who is close to her, all at once. Thus, her possessiveness: about Tony on a previous page, and about Kat and Renard on this one. She's in "circle the wagons" mode.

Frankly, I'm impressed that Court!Annie offered to give some of her clothes to Forest!Annie, without anyone prompting her.

That's a good point and honestly kinda sad. It seems like she really improved her relationship with Tony, something she's yearned for for a long time. And now that and all her other relationships are being threatened. She's making it really hard to feel sad for her, but I do feel sad for her. Maybe Tony is about to give us some insight about how Court Annie feels.

[pyradonis]

Dec 31, 2018 22:48:13 GMT zaferion said:

Uh oh. Is Tony loosening up around Fannie because he's undone 40-odd years of anxiety in the last 6 months, or because he doesn't actually see her as his daughter? I don't think I'm going to like the answer.

Or has he just always dreamed of being the dad of a sitcom family?

[imaginaryfriend]

Quoth Antimony, to Kat, back when Antimony returned from that summer in the woods: "I ran away without thinking. It was a weak and selfish thing to have done." Renard: "I didn't exactly help in that department."

Quoth Kat to Antimony after she saw Kat kissing Paz: "You're afraid you'll push me away and the first thing (emphasis hers) you do is run away and hide. That doesn't help."

Today's comic: Courtnie leaves in a literal huff, Renard doesn't help.

Jan 1, 2019 1:40:25 GMT pyradonis said:

Dec 31, 2018 22:48:13 GMT zaferion said:

Uh oh. Is Tony loosening up around Fannie because he's undone 40-odd years of anxiety in the last 6 months, or because he doesn't actually see her as his daughter? I don't think I'm going to like the answer.

Or has he just always dreamed of being the dad of a sitcom family?

Back before Surma died he probably ingested information on fathering as part of preparations for having a kid.  Even if not specifically planning a second child (which he might have specifically done as he was planning on curing her at one point) he likely collected data on multiple-child households from both scholarly and popular entertainment sources. And finally with this jumper incident there's a chance to put some of that unused study into practice.

[noone3]

Dec 31, 2018 13:10:09 GMT speedwell said:

Anyone else hearing British comedian Jimmy Carr's laugh in that frame?

Well... now I do.

Thanks a lot :/

As if Tony laughing wasn't enough...

[jasmijn]

Dec 31, 2018 22:46:38 GMT The Anarch said:

Or she's trying to pull a fast one and give away an article of clothing she doesn't like anymore like one might do with a sibling, forgetting for a moment that the other Annie is inherently wise to her shenanigans.

I was pretty sure that was the reason, yeah.

[netherdan]

Dec 31, 2018 18:23:12 GMT fia said:

What if Tony has suddenly relaxed because all the weight of his terrible Surma guilt has lifted with the sudden introduction of a new daughter in his life? I mean, Tony hasn't had something fun and unexpected happen in probably a long time.
Also, he got this second daughter without his wife having to die to have her. That's pretty big, isn't it?

I wonder if Anthony will be able to relax if it's just he and the two-actually-one Annie. That I think would confirm the split theory. If not then it could be the timesplit or magical perfect copy theories we'd be dealing with

[imaginaryfriend]

Ah, the gurlpolitik, so often it is over jumpers/sweaters.

Jan 1, 2019 20:14:29 GMT jasmijn said:

Dec 31, 2018 22:46:38 GMT The Anarch said:

Or she's trying to pull a fast one and give away an article of clothing she doesn't like anymore like one might do with a sibling, forgetting for a moment that the other Annie is inherently wise to her shenanigans.

I was pretty sure that was the reason, yeah.

I don't disagree but I think it's a shade more complex. Courtnie didn't start this sequence of events with asking if Fannie wanted some clothes or if they should divide up the clothes. Said Courtnie on the previous page, "I suppose I should let you have some of my clothes" (emphasis hers). Come on, then." That might seem conciliatory but it contains a strong implicit assertion of superiority and a denial of Fannie having any rights to Antimony's things, followed by an order. Fannie trailed along behind Courtnie upstairs for whatever reason, perhaps as an effort to meet Courtnie halfway, perhaps just because she wanted a change of clothes for next morning, but things did not go smoothly as Fannie soon found out that she wasn't going to get much of what she wanted without a struggle. After some time passed [as indicated by the last panel on the previous page] Courtnie found out that she wasn't going to be able to buy Fannie cheaply, as they both liked or disliked the same things the same amount, but this may have been after giving in or being reasonable on a few things early on. We'll see what Fannie puts back and what she leaves the room with (assuming she's only taking things that Courtnie agreed to).  But first we get to find out if Anthony is going to try to help or if he's just amused.

[yinglung]

Jan 1, 2019 23:10:29 GMT netherdan said:

Dec 31, 2018 18:23:12 GMT fia said:

What if Tony has suddenly relaxed because all the weight of his terrible Surma guilt has lifted with the sudden introduction of a new daughter in his life? I mean, Tony hasn't had something fun and unexpected happen in probably a long time.
Also, he got this second daughter without his wife having to die to have her. That's pretty big, isn't it?

I wonder if Anthony will be able to relax if it's just he and the two-actually-one Annie. That I think would confirm the split theory. If not then it could be the timesplit or magical perfect copy theories we'd be dealing with

I'm not sure why you all think Tony being this relaxed around Annie is a development after he found out his daughter has been cloned.

[faiiry]

I want to see more of the house so I can decide how long it took Tony to Feng Shui it.

[netherdan]

Jan 2, 2019 1:05:01 GMT yinglung said:

Jan 1, 2019 23:10:29 GMT netherdan said:

I wonder if Anthony will be able to relax if it's just he and the two-actually-one Annie. That I think would confirm the split theory. If not then it could be the timesplit or magical perfect copy theories we'd be dealing with

I'm not sure why you all think Tony being this relaxed around Annie is a development after he found out his daughter has been cloned.

I'm not saying that, he might as well have had his development with his daughter over those 6 months, I'm suggesting that if he could show the same friendly personality around both Annies that would imply they're actually two halves of a single person (but that could only happen if his condition were etheric instead of psychologic)

[tc]

Jan 2, 2019 5:02:20 GMT faiiry said:

I want to see more of the house so I can decide how long it took Tony to Feng Shui it.

I just have to thank you for making me genuinely laugh aloud.