qiam
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Post by qiam on Dec 29, 2018 5:58:22 GMT
The tilde at the end of the first speech bubble is a funny choice, if its being used to indicate he's holding out the end of her name. I'm trying to figure out how Tony would be saying it. I can't imagine him having doing it in a sing-song way like when a parent is calling their child, but him doing it completely monotone with that blank expression is just too silly. I really like the different expressions the two Annie's have, Forest Annie seems more annoyed or tired while Court Annie is more of concern attention. I think they appear to be getting along at least slightly better. I definitely have a feeling that these two are here to stay for while and have to come to terms with the differences between each other, which are really just conflicts within Annie. I also just love that expression on Tony's face, and the way he looks like he's staring out into the stars. It's not a tilde, that's just how hyphens look in the font used for the comic. The hyphen is being used because his dialogue is split by that middle panel. |
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Post by DonDueed on Dec 29, 2018 13:42:59 GMT
Between this page and the previous one, Tony went upstairs and made up the spare bedroom. That takes a few minutes at least.
What were the Annies and Rey doing all that time? Staring daggers at each other? Chatting calmly? Each trying to convince Rey that they're the REAL Antimony?
And wasn't Tony at least a bit concerned about leaving them with no supervision (other than Rey)? Or has he come to trust Rey implicitly?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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Post by csj on Dec 29, 2018 16:30:34 GMT
*laugh track*
*funky bass*
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Post by mturtle7 on Dec 29, 2018 17:22:48 GMT
Between this page and the previous one, Tony went upstairs and made up the spare bedroom. That takes a few minutes at least.
What were the Annies and Rey doing all that time? Staring daggers at each other? Chatting calmly? Each trying to convince Rey that they're the REAL Antimony?
And wasn't Tony at least a bit concerned about leaving them with no supervision (other than Rey)? Or has he come to trust Rey implicitly?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Tony wasn't actually in the previous page, so it's actually entirely possible he started getting the room ready before then, in which case there doesn't have to be any time difference at all between those pages. In other words, Tony just came into the house, immediately left the Annies and Renard to their own devices, and then comes back just in time to interrupt the Annies' side-eyeing each other as Renard stands awkwardly in the background.
Incidentally, considering the fourth panel, I'm surprised nobody's made the "beside herself" pun yet.
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myzelf
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Post by myzelf on Dec 29, 2018 17:43:25 GMT
Perhaps this is karma for that one time he tried to murder her.
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Post by DonDueed on Dec 29, 2018 17:55:40 GMT
Between this page and the previous one, Tony went upstairs and made up the spare bedroom. That takes a few minutes at least.
What were the Annies and Rey doing all that time? Staring daggers at each other? Chatting calmly? Each trying to convince Rey that they're the REAL Antimony?
And wasn't Tony at least a bit concerned about leaving them with no supervision (other than Rey)? Or has he come to trust Rey implicitly?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Tony wasn't actually in the previous page, so it's actually entirely possible he started getting the room ready before then, in which case there doesn't have to be any time difference at all between those pages. In other words, Tony just came into the house, immediately left the Annies and Renard to their own devices, and then comes back just in time to interrupt the Annies' side-eyeing each other as Renard stands awkwardly in the background.
Incidentally, considering the fourth panel, I'm surprised nobody's made the "beside herself" pun yet.
If what you suggest is true, then Tony may not have seen the Reynardine test (where each Annie gave Rey a command). It doesn't seem likely he would have missed that. I don't think Tony went upstairs until after that point, at least; just because he's not shown doesn't mean he's not there.
Either way, it continues the pattern of the adults seeming rather unconcerned about the doppelAnnie situation.
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Post by Gotolei on Dec 29, 2018 18:12:44 GMT
Tony wasn't actually in the previous page, so it's actually entirely possible he started getting the room ready before then, in which case there doesn't have to be any time difference at all between those pages. In other words, Tony just came into the house, immediately left the Annies and Renard to their own devices, and then comes back just in time to interrupt the Annies' side-eyeing each other as Renard stands awkwardly in the background. Incidentally, considering the fourth panel, I'm surprised nobody's made the "beside herself" pun yet. If what you suggest is true, then Tony may not have seen the Reynardine test (where each Annie gave Rey a command). It doesn't seem likely he would have missed that. I don't think Tony went upstairs until after that point, at least; just because he's not shown doesn't mean he's not there. Either way, it continues the pattern of the adults seeming rather unconcerned about the doppelAnnie situation. The previous page started with [After once more explaining the situation], which Tony's already heard through. Seems reasonable enough that he'd decide to go up and prepare the aforementioned room, and have it ready sooner, rather than spend 10+ minutes(?) sitting* through the same tale again. Now that he and Rey seem to be on decent speaking terms (also read: mutual trust? Rey and Eggers ended up being buddies as well after all, and they didn't exactly have a sterling start either) and have ended up alone with each other, and the last panel of this page seems to indicate at least a few hours passing, chances are they've exchanged their thoughts in that time and Tony's been told about it. *(or probably more accurately, silently standing off to the side somewhere) |
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Post by jda on Dec 29, 2018 18:37:36 GMT
Probability 1: ... and then, both Annies remembered they were Loup!
Probability 2: EtherDome!
Two Annies enter, one Annie leaves!
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Post by brilliantgrey on Dec 29, 2018 22:35:15 GMT
I'd love to see the two Annies getting along enough to chat in the ether just to get a better grasp on the situation. I don't think there'll be much chance of a revelation until those two are working together. (aside from the usual 'throw Zimmy at it' suggestions we get anytime something weird happens)
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Post by davidm on Dec 30, 2018 0:23:09 GMT
Perhaps this is karma for that one time he tried to murder her. He never tried to murder his daughter, he tried to save his wife, and then became broken man when he found out he was tricked and that his attempt to save his wife almost killed his daughter. Perhaps Tony, Annie and Annie are all also seeing to potential usefulness of current situation, rather than just the negative. In the same way a parent who has 2 children is hurt when one of them suddenly dies, Tony might in part be happy from suddenly going from one daughter to 2 when he probably views his daughter someone to be proud of. Annie has acted as good person and asset, now there is a bonus Annie. The 2 daughters also may see value in the other, but currently competing to be the Alpha Annie. |
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Post by arf on Dec 30, 2018 5:29:38 GMT
It occurs to me that Tom could have followed C!Annie for the next six months. F!Annie could have turned up at the end of the next volume.
(Lots of opportunities for speculation as C!Annie makes no reference to meeting Loup in that time.)
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yinglung
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Post by yinglung on Dec 30, 2018 16:12:09 GMT
Either way, it continues the pattern of the adults seeming rather unconcerned about the doppelAnnie situation.
I wouldn't say unconcerned, probably more cautious about it. If Fannie is some sort of spy or sleeper agent, then observing her while she is free to do what she wants is useful. If she is a legitimate person, then extended quarantine and interrogation won't help, and will likely harm. |
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Post by penguinguy on Dec 30, 2018 19:27:10 GMT
I'd love to see the two Annies getting along enough to chat in the ether just to get a better grasp on the situation. I don't think there'll be much chance of a revelation until those two are working together. (aside from the usual 'throw Zimmy at it' suggestions we get anytime something weird happens) That would be interesting to see for sure, and brings up an interesting point. We only got a brief glimpse of what Court Annie looks like in the ether, I wonder what the characters from the forest who mostly interact in the ether think of Court Annie? So far we've only seen robots, humans (and Jones) and Rey, I wonder what <snuffle> or Ms Bugsy for instance thinks of Court Annie. |
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Post by jasmijn on Dec 30, 2018 20:27:40 GMT
By this time next year he should have thousands of daughters!
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Post by warrl on Dec 30, 2018 23:50:01 GMT
Between this page and the previous one, Tony went upstairs and made up the spare bedroom. That takes a few minutes at least. Extremely variable. There's no indication that he went out and bought a bed, so the spare room was probably made up as a guest room, and those are normally kept ready or nearly-ready for use as such. He may have just had to verify that it was ready, and perhaps move a box out to another storage location - a matter of seconds. Or he may have had to take the plastic wrap off the never-before-used guest-bed mattress, move a bunch of boxes, find sheets blankets and pillows in storage... Or somewhere in between. |
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Post by pyradonis on Dec 31, 2018 0:50:07 GMT
Tony wasn't actually in the previous page, so it's actually entirely possible he started getting the room ready before then, in which case there doesn't have to be any time difference at all between those pages. In other words, Tony just came into the house, immediately left the Annies and Renard to their own devices, and then comes back just in time to interrupt the Annies' side-eyeing each other as Renard stands awkwardly in the background.
Incidentally, considering the fourth panel, I'm surprised nobody's made the "beside herself" pun yet.
If what you suggest is true, then Tony may not have seen the Reynardine test (where each Annie gave Rey a command). It doesn't seem likely he would have missed that. I don't think Tony went upstairs until after that point, at least; just because he's not shown doesn't mean he's not there.
Either way, it continues the pattern of the adults seeming rather unconcerned about the doppelAnnie situation.
Which reminds me, does Tony still not know he was never handed control of Renard? |
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Post by keef on Dec 31, 2018 10:47:48 GMT
Which reminds me, does Tony still not know he was never handed control of Renard? We don't know. But things between him and his daughter (court version) seem to have changed quite a bit, so I wouldn't be surprised if she has told him. |
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Post by tc on Jan 4, 2019 14:33:25 GMT
I hope Tony has fully abandoned his hopes of bringing Surma back... Have we ever been shown that he set out to do that? |
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Post by DonDueed on Jan 4, 2019 15:42:54 GMT
I hope Tony has fully abandoned his hopes of bringing Surma back... Have we ever been shown that he set out to do that? We know he was trying to prevent her death, but AFAIK he's never made any attempts to bring her back from the dead. Is that even possible in the Gunnerkrigg 'verse (except maybe by Coyote/Loup)? |
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Post by keef on Jan 4, 2019 17:21:25 GMT
I hope Tony has fully abandoned his hopes of bringing Surma back... Have we ever been shown that he set out to do that? No, he wanted to see her again, and only that after he was tricked in believing that was possible. His whole expedition was meant to find the reason he failed to save her, not to bring her back. bring her back from the dead. Is that even possible in the Gunnerkrigg 'verse (except maybe by Coyote/Loup)? It seems that "souls" in the Gunnerverse are dissolved in the ether, so it looks unlikely. |
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Post by tc on Jan 6, 2019 12:16:56 GMT
His whole expedition was meant to find the reason he failed to save her, not to bring her back. This is the thing - we don't know exactly *what* his expedition was in aid of, other than an implication that he was using the Court's Omega Device research as a cover for what he was actually trying to do. When the etheric entities in the caves offered him a chance to see Surma he was already physically and mentally traumatised and exhausted from the effort involved in making it that far and it's fair to suggest that he wasn't in his right mind when they offered him a way to see Surma. Like you, I'm fairly convinced that his original aim was different - and it's probable that trying to understand why he failed to save Surma was part of that. I have my own theories as to what he was up to and why, but I don't want to jinx the story! In addition, this comic shows us that Tony and Renard seem to have come to an understanding which, given Renard's feelings towards Tony prior to this point, is a big deal in itself... |
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