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Post by faiiry on Apr 6, 2018 7:00:38 GMT
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Post by calpal on Apr 6, 2018 7:03:33 GMT
You mean to tell me that the Court admin themselves don't have any means of calling on their Court Defender in an emergency? You know... like this exact time?!
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 6, 2018 7:04:14 GMT
Good man, Smitface. Reporting in is always important. Helps to know who's attacking and with what.
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Post by faiiry on Apr 6, 2018 7:15:15 GMT
Eggers said he'd be able to find Annie " wherever you are." I assume that means even when he's off training, he can get there if one might need him. In any case, Annie should not have been so neglectful, especially after the last time this happened. Having the stick might not have helped, but it sure wouldn't have hurt. Also: Annie in the first panel. Inconsistent with other profile shots we've seen. |
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Post by Gotolei on Apr 6, 2018 7:22:32 GMT
Seems a little strange to me how she would still have the beacon that summons the Court protector, after that whole song and dance where the Court went out of their way to prevent her from becoming Medium. Were they just too lazy to take it back or something? Or maybe Eglamore/Parley slipped her one later on?
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Post by madjack on Apr 6, 2018 7:27:15 GMT
All this and both the main defenders are away, oof.
Despite the situation, Annie's hair in panel 2 starting to get some of its old length back makes me smile, shows she's healing.
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Post by faiiry on Apr 6, 2018 7:29:15 GMT
Seems a little strange to me how she would still have the beacon that summons the Court protector, after that whole song and dance where the Court went out of their way to prevent her from becoming Medium. Were they just too lazy to take it back or something? Or maybe Eglamore/Parley slipped her one later on? Maybe it was more of a personal gift from Eglamore rather than an offering from the court. |
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Post by Gotolei on Apr 6, 2018 7:47:30 GMT
Seems a little strange to me how she would still have the beacon that summons the Court protector, after that whole song and dance where the Court went out of their way to prevent her from becoming Medium. Were they just too lazy to take it back or something? Or maybe Eglamore/Parley slipped her one later on? Maybe it was more of a personal gift from Eglamore rather than an offering from the court. Makes sense, I guess that would also explain why Andrew doesn't have one. |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Apr 6, 2018 7:49:11 GMT
All this and both the main defenders are away, oof. I am certain Coyote planned for that to be the case. In fact, if she'd had the stick on her, I bet Coyote would have simply waited till a visit where she didn't have it coincided with the defenders being away. |
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Post by arf on Apr 6, 2018 7:57:24 GMT
To the Admin-mobile, Andrew!
Actually, it was probably just as well Annie did leave the beacon behind. Ysengrote would have swatted Eglamore on sight. (I doubt "Ys eats Coyote" was a scenario with a particularly high risk rating.)
Looking forward to seeing Rey's reaction.
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Post by madjack on Apr 6, 2018 7:58:08 GMT
All this and both the main defenders are away, oof. I am certain Coyote planned for that to be the case. In fact, if she'd had the stick on her, I bet Coyote would have simply waited till a visit where she didn't have it coincided with the defenders being away. Possible, but it's also possible the stick can work from absolutely anywhere, so that 'no stick = defenders absent' couldn't have been a reliable conclusion to draw (aware this is Coyote we're talking about). Does he have a way of knowing whether Eggers and Parley are absent as well? I'd say if he noticed Annie didn't have the thing on her, he'd chalk it up to good fortune and go ahead with his plan anyway. Edit: Actually, it was probably just as well Annie did leave the beacon behind. Ysengrote would have swatted Eglamore on sight. (I doubt "Ys eats Coyote" was a scenario with a particularly high risk rating.) Also, this. |
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Post by philman on Apr 6, 2018 8:03:10 GMT
You didn't think you'd need it? Come on Annie! It's a last resort safety equipment, you never think you'll need it until you do!
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Post by saardvark on Apr 6, 2018 8:25:28 GMT
The fact that there is still dust/plaster falling from the ceiling suggests the more Spak-roots are still shooting across the gorge and/or they are burrowing deeper under the Court. If the latter, and these roots act like runners, more trees could erupt from them anywhere along their length, enabling Coysengrin/Ysote to potentially strike multiple places simultaneously all across the Court. He could start spreading Gillitte everywhere... power of the Forest indeed! Nasty.....
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Post by Per on Apr 6, 2018 10:30:36 GMT
That awkward moment when you say goodbye and realize you're headed in the same direction.
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Post by fjodorii on Apr 6, 2018 12:00:08 GMT
The fact that there is still dust/plaster falling from the ceiling suggests the more Spak-roots are still shooting across the gorge and/or they are burrowing deeper under the Court. If the latter, and these roots act like runners, more trees could erupt from them anywhere along their length, enabling Coysengrin/Ysote to potentially strike multiple places simultaneously all across the Court. He could start spreading Gillitte everywhere... power of the Forest indeed! Nasty..... Either that, or the roots are anchoring themselves into the Court side to pull the Forest and Court together. I have my money on both options :-) |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Apr 6, 2018 12:09:42 GMT
Come on, COME ON! Where is Dr. Disaster when you need hiiiimmmm!
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Post by netherdan on Apr 6, 2018 12:31:38 GMT
Uhh... Bam!?
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Post by todd on Apr 6, 2018 12:46:16 GMT
Possible, but it's also possible the stick can work from absolutely anywhere, so that 'no stick = defenders absent' couldn't have been a reliable conclusion to draw (aware this is Coyote we're talking about). Does he have a way of knowing whether Eggers and Parley are absent as well? I'd say if he noticed Annie didn't have the thing on her, he'd chalk it up to good fortune and go ahead with his plan anyway. I doubt that Coyote would know all that (though I'm sure he'd make it look as if he would; considering the size of his ego, he'd probably claim this was all part of his plan even when it wasn't). In a situation like this, what can the Court do? Ysengrin may be all but unstoppable, and I doubt he'd be willing to negotiate except on his terms, terms that the Court would probably be unwilling to accept (as in, say, an end to all experiments, permanently). Evacuating and starting all over again in an area with no etheric creatures nearby to make difficult neighbors might be the sanest option, but I doubt the Court would be keen on that idea, either. (And it might not be so welcome to Ysengrin, for that matter; I can imagine him, after the initial euphoria of having driven the humans away wears off, realizing that now they might be resuming their work somewhere else, somewhere where he can't easily reach them or know what they're doing. That could be one reason why Coyote let the Court stay: so that he could keep a watch over them more easily.) |
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 6, 2018 13:15:29 GMT
That awkward moment when you say goodbye and realize you're headed in the same direction. Came to say the same thing. So cringe-inducing. Hopefully, we'll get to talk with Y 2.0 soon. It should be illuminating to see how his outlook has changed, since the psychological addition. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 13:33:25 GMT
Seems a little strange to me how she would still have the beacon that summons the Court protector, after that whole song and dance where the Court went out of their way to prevent her from becoming Medium. Were they just too lazy to take it back or something? Or maybe Eglamore/Parley slipped her one later on? I've suspected that the plan was specifically for Antimony to become the Forest medium all along, but construct it such that Coyote would think he's outplaying them by snatching away their (arguable) prodigy, and that she would likewise think herself to be carving her own path. If Annie's Forest job hadn't been in the Court's interests, they could easily have expelled her or imposed some kind of sanction, as their later blackmailing of Tony suggested. In this vein, Llanwellyn's "no protection" could be read as an appeal to take care, disguised as Pilatean hand-washing. It would explain the lack of conflict with the Court despite all her apparent transgressions (Power Station, Annie in the Forest, Jeanne) where it's hard to believe that the Court, with its pin-point accurate means of geo-location (see Omega Device expedition to Brazil), wouldn't notice. Then again, they forgot about the seeds that were specifically noted to be part of a "ruse" in Chapter 14. This doesn't match what Tony told Donald. Perhaps, though, they merely needed some kind of pretext to threaten Tony via Antimony -- or there's a conflict between factions in the Court who all have different plans for her; the Shadow Men and the school administration might not be the same thing (for that matter, Jones wanted her to become the Court medium; ostensibly, she does not interfere with human politics (and watched Rome burn), but she gave out her "recommendation" nonetheless -- that's peculiar, too). Also note the method -- "reining me back in after I'd had my fun", while Tony was believing to be on a personal journey (that led to him getting quite therapeutically punched). |
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Post by todd on Apr 6, 2018 14:01:31 GMT
If Annie's Forest job hadn't been in the Court's interests, they could easily have expelled her or imposed some kind of sanction, as their later blackmailing of Tony suggested. The problem with expelling Annie is Reynardine. If she takes him with her, the Court won't be able to tell what he's doing, while the Court might not be able to bar her from taking him without endangering her ownership of him (which was also why they couldn't confiscate him). |
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Post by bedinsis on Apr 6, 2018 17:43:35 GMT
I realize I'm at an advantage in thinking up courses of action given that I am not in a highly stressful situation. Even so, Smitty, don't you think this is one of those circumstances where *BAM*-ing your girlfriend to the scene would be fruitful? |
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Post by blazingstar on Apr 6, 2018 20:36:22 GMT
Are you talking about her hair, or the shape of her face? Her hair is pretty consistent, considering how her the length changes. The shape of her face can be explained by the first panel being not exactly profile - it's from a point of view over her shoulder, partially behind her. |
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Post by faiiry on Apr 6, 2018 21:18:23 GMT
Are you talking about her hair, or the shape of her face? Her hair is pretty consistent, considering how her the length changes. The shape of her face can be explained by the first panel being not exactly profile - it's from a point of view over her shoulder, partially behind her. Nothing wrong with the hair. It's the nose. I will admit that Annie in profile hasn't always been 100% consistent, but as seen above, it's like 75% so. That being said, panel one on the most recent page doesn't look like Annie. Without the hair we wouldn't recognize her. The eyes are too far down as well. And not to nitpick, but she's not even looking at Andrew. |
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Post by Runningflame on Apr 6, 2018 22:05:41 GMT
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Post by warrl on Apr 6, 2018 22:09:11 GMT
If Annie's Forest job hadn't been in the Court's interests, they could easily have expelled her or imposed some kind of sanction, as their later blackmailing of Tony suggested. The problem with expelling Annie is Reynardine. If she takes him with her, the Court won't be able to tell what he's doing, while the Court might not be able to bar her from taking him without endangering her ownership of him (which was also why they couldn't confiscate him). problem with expelling Annie is Reynardine. Annie herself is another such problem - she's a powerful etheric being, and if they expel her they lose control over her as well. Most specifically they couldn't stop her from going over to the Forest. There may be additional problems - we know, for example, that Jones feels minimal loyalty to the court. And they allegedly used the threat of expelling her to get Dr. Carver to return, so actually expelling her would likely lose him. And Eglamore's loyalty has been shown to be something other than unquestioning. As has Smitty's. Parley's loyalties probably put Smitty (and maybe Eglamore) ahead of the Court. They might be less worried about where Kat Donlan stands, but if so, that's a mistake on their part as she is also a powerful (but not etheric) being - and her parents might support her over the Court. You mean to tell me that the Court admin themselves don't have any means of calling on their Court Defender in an emergency? You know... like this exact time?! Someone would have to get to them physically, and then also get to them mentally and persuade them that it's necessary. Yeah, the dust dropping from the ceiling should be a persuasive argument, but never underestimate the thickness of a bureaucrat's stupidity.  Extremely likely, Annie can get to her room and send the signal faster than that. |
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 6, 2018 23:58:33 GMT
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Post by todd on Apr 7, 2018 0:29:36 GMT
Someone would have to get to them physically, and then also get to them mentally and persuade them that it's necessary. Yeah, the dust dropping from the ceiling should be a persuasive argument, but never underestimate the thickness of a bureaucrat's stupidity. Also, the Court administrators would probably only know that something strange is going on - without, precisely, what it is. We know that it's Ysengrin causing this, because we saw him eat Coyote, seize his power, and attack the Court, but the administrators don't know that; only Annie and Andrew know it as yet, within the story. They might not know whether this is the kind of problem that Eglamore and Parley could help solve or not. |
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Post by kayback on Apr 7, 2018 8:18:11 GMT
You didn't think you'd need it? Come on Annie! It's a last resort safety equipment, you never think you'll need it until you do! Yeah, after needing it once before I don't believe she'd not take it again. That beggars belief a little too much to be credible. |
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Post by todd on Apr 7, 2018 12:41:51 GMT
Call it maybe a case of: a) Tom's writing this thing on his own, without editors and beta-readers to point things out to him that he might not notice in the excitement of creativity and b) the story he wanted to tell in this chapter wouldn't flow the way he wanted it to if Annie had had the means to summon Eglamore and Parley when Ysengrin was eating Coyote or attacking the bridge.
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