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Post by saardvark on Feb 27, 2018 2:57:16 GMT
Is this indicating Coyote, creature of imagination, is emerging, Minerva-like, from Ys's mangled mind (-Lightice) as his way of reincarnating? Along with Jeanne and a second Ysengrin? As hilariously slapsticky that would no doubt be, Coyote returning right away seems pointless from a narrative perspective and also for the purpose of whatever his plan is. It's just a representation of memory. Agreed... it's too fast for a return; my bad - I just couldn't resist the Coyote-as-bizzaro-Minerva image....
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Post by liminal on Feb 27, 2018 6:09:13 GMT
And Then Coyote Said...
(even more appropriate in context)
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 27, 2018 14:14:37 GMT
Jeanne in the third panel; If Ys didn't know the Court was vulnerable before he sure does now. Why would he? These are Ysengrin's own memories of Jeanne (for example the one at the river, shown earlier in this chapter). If he never learned Jeanne was gone, he should not learn it now either. Hmm. Not sure running is the best option here. Prey runs, equals stand their ground. It's not like they'll get very far, anyways... That's what a teleporting protector is for. Smitty doesn't know that! However, Annie does....she may argue against him, and try to stay and help her friend with his rage, much like how he helped with hers. Actually, I could very well imagine this was part of the mandatory biology lessons of the Court. But it's a whole another question whether Smitty remembers it. After all he is not sitting comfortably in front of his computer right now with all the time in the world to think on how to handle this situation.
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Post by madjack on Feb 27, 2018 15:18:03 GMT
Jeanne in the third panel; If Ys didn't know the Court was vulnerable before he sure does now. Why would he? These are Ysengrin's own memories of Jeanne (for example the one at the river, shown earlier in this chapter). If he never learned Jeanne was gone, he should not learn it now either. Because of that scene exactly? I felt it was implied the one where Coyote crossed the river happened soon after Jeanne was freed, while the one sending the creature to its death was in the past and the earlier memory blended into the later one as a storytelling device. I felt it was also implied Ysengrin was witness to both, but it could have been Coyote doing his fourth wall breaking bit and talking to himself.
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Post by hp on Feb 27, 2018 17:45:55 GMT
Because of that scene exactly? I felt it was implied the one where Coyote crossed the river happened soon after Jeanne was freed, while the one sending the creature to its death was in the past and the earlier memory blended into the later one as a storytelling device. I felt it was also implied Ysengrin was witness to both, but it could have been Coyote doing his fourth wall breaking bit and talking to himself. When I read that scene with Coyote walking on the river, I understood Ysengrim's presence to be a flashback. As in, Coyote was walking on the water on the present and "seeing" Ysengrim on the banks where they have been in the past. If you look closely, what is going on is a memory where Ysengrim orders some demon dude to cross the river and Jeanne immediately rips him in half. In the following panels he's seeing both halfs of the body hitting the water, then snarling to that. In that very moment Coyote intrudes that memory and starts to talk to Ysengrim... But next Y's gone from the bank, and Coyote starts to walk on the water and talk about Jeanne as if she's already gone (like he was still chatting with the memory of Ysengrim). It's some sort of seamless past/present transition. So I guess Y doesn't know Jeanne is gone yet.
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Post by Fhqwhgads on Feb 28, 2018 2:22:44 GMT
Memories yeah, better run yeah, but you know what's unexpectedly terrifying? Panel 1 Ysengrin with pupils.
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Post by faiiry on Feb 28, 2018 3:11:54 GMT
I (very crudely, in MS paint) gave panel 4 Annie some teeth, cause her lack of such was bothering me. I can't say it looks any better though. Before After Memories yeah, better run yeah, but you know what's unexpectedly terrifying? Panel 1 Ysengrin with pupils. Same. I never realized that the whole thing wasn't just green.
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Post by artemis on Feb 28, 2018 7:10:53 GMT
I (very crudely, in MS paint) gave panel 4 Annie some teeth, cause her lack of such was bothering me. I can't say it looks any better though. Before After Oh my god, I’m glad I’m not the only one weirded out by her lack of teeth, I thought I was being overly nitpicky about the art style. I do think your edit looks better.
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Post by Per on Feb 28, 2018 13:32:09 GMT
Adding teeth makes it look like Annie crossed over from Sinfest. Tom has drawn pupils on Renard/Ysengrin before to reflect intensity, such as when intimidating Jack in Terror Castle.
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Post by Mitth'raw'nuruodo on Feb 28, 2018 23:00:16 GMT
Any attack on the Court will end very poorly for the forest Or possibly both - it could be a "Mutual Assured Destruction" result. As in, all that's left of both the Court and the Wood would be a smoldering crater, and Muut saying to the rest of the Guides with a sigh, "Looks like we're going to be working overtime." I expect this is all going according to Coyote's will, and as such, it won't end in such a manner that wipes out either side, but draws them into conflict for an as yet unrevealed reason.
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