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Post by Gauldoth Half-Dead on Feb 21, 2018 12:59:02 GMT
Now this is a fine pickle. My two cents?
-Definitely all according to coyote's keikaku, whatever happens to him. (TL note: keikaku means plan.) -Ysengrin's red mohawk-stripe is sooo post-apocalyptic warlord. Really not his style. -The tooth Big C gave Annie will definitely come into play, one way or another. I have a feeling it's soon to be about 2:30 for Ysengrin. (Get it?)
Calling it: Ys goes berserk, breaches the Court. Coyote gambles on Ys having to be put down, but that may not happen. I'm unsure. Coyote may even endure some real damage, to make it not seem like a clever ploy. I wouldnt't bet money on any of that, though.
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Post by jda on Feb 21, 2018 13:49:34 GMT
Taking your sweet time to Bip them back, Parley. Any time!
(If Parley's not there already, Smitty's luck must already summoned her. If not, calling Coyote's luck canceling shenanigans)
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Post by The Anarch on Feb 21, 2018 13:50:58 GMT
"GRAAAAAAaaaaaaaaso sorry about that, children. Now, what were we talking about?"
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Post by aline on Feb 21, 2018 14:18:23 GMT
Honestly after a page like the last one this just feels a little extra. No. Annie proposed using it against Jeanne, but they didn't. Parley only had it for like, two minutes. Given what happened, I doubt she was eager to keep it. Did we see her give it back? I don't remember. If we didn't, I'm going to assume she still has it until it's been proven otherwise. We saw Parley drop the sword, scream "Oh God! Make the sword go away!" and we haven't seen her touch it again since. I don't know if that counts as "giving back" for you, but my guess is, that was the last time she let herself touch the damn thing. We don't see Annie putting away the sword, but she's the one who bends down together with Renard, next to shadow, where the sword was dropped. My guess is either Annie has it, or Renard, because we saw him keeping it for her.
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Post by faiiry on Feb 21, 2018 14:45:31 GMT
In panel 2, Ysengrin seems to be chomping on something brownish. I wonder what it is? And in panel 3 - are those Coyote's RIBS under his chin??? Gnarly.
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Post by Zox Tomana on Feb 21, 2018 15:29:46 GMT
Honestly after a page like the last one this just feels a little extra. No. Annie proposed using it against Jeanne, but they didn't. Parley only had it for like, two minutes. Given what happened, I doubt she was eager to keep it. Did we see her give it back? I don't remember. If we didn't, I'm going to assume she still has it until it's been proven otherwise. From that same appearance, we know it was being stored with Reynard. One wonders if it has been removed from Rey since that day.
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Post by Zox Tomana on Feb 21, 2018 15:31:30 GMT
Taking your sweet time to Bip them back, Parley. Any time! (If Parley's not there already, Smitty's luck must already summoned her. If not, calling Coyote's luck canceling shenanigans) You know, come to think of it, in our "can they run away discussions," I have a feeling that the answer is Yes where Parley is involved :V
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Post by Per on Feb 21, 2018 15:31:48 GMT
and from where I sit there just ain't enough damn dogs I have a feeling it's soon to be about 2:30 for Ysengrin. (Get it?) Hour of the wolf?
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Post by ag0id on Feb 21, 2018 15:57:42 GMT
And in panel 3 - are those Coyote's RIBS under his chin??? Gnarly. Oh jeez! Nice catch. He really sucked 'em clean.
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Post by faiiry on Feb 21, 2018 16:02:26 GMT
Anyone fancy a beautiful new avatar?
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Post by saardvark on Feb 21, 2018 16:06:13 GMT
In panel 2, Ysengrin seems to be chomping on something brownish. I wonder what it is? And in panel 3 - are those Coyote's RIBS under his chin??? Gnarly. Panel 2: I think he is just ripping some skin off. Panel 3: I wondered the same... and since the ribs are so clean, it seems, as ST13R noted, that there's not much meat on those bones... this Coyote is just skin draped over ribs. A Coyote balloon... most of the essential Coyote elsewhere? Also, it seems like Ys is chomping with intention, aiming to rip off that eye symbol on Coyote's chest. Does he think his memories are stored in Coyote's "heart"? If that is true, I wonder if it is a GRAAA of success or of failure...
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Post by clover on Feb 21, 2018 16:33:25 GMT
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Post by fia on Feb 21, 2018 16:43:43 GMT
I hope Annie can do something like this for her friend. His anger has been waiting and waiting to be let out. Maybe he can end up managing it? He is far more dangerous now than Annie ever was, though.
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Post by hp on Feb 21, 2018 16:59:13 GMT
Well Smitty is there. Whatever Ysengrim decide to do about them, they'll definitely luck it out smoothly.
Unless Smitty lost his powers when Jeanne cut those threads...
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Post by faiiry on Feb 21, 2018 16:59:23 GMT
Maybe my memory is faulty, but is this the most violent page of the comic so far? (As far as we know) someone is literally getting murdered onscreen.
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Post by hp on Feb 21, 2018 17:01:53 GMT
Anyway.... It's time for Ysengrim to become kindling
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Post by cb3 on Feb 21, 2018 17:17:41 GMT
Disturbing.
But this is so going to end with Annie scolding Coyote for winding up Ysengrim. Probably with a bit more carnage first mind.
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Post by zimmyzims on Feb 21, 2018 17:54:58 GMT
Honestly after a page like the last one this just feels a little extra. No. Annie proposed using it against Jeanne, but they didn't. Parley only had it for like, two minutes. Given what happened, I doubt she was eager to keep it. Did we see her give it back? I don't remember. If we didn't, I'm going to assume she still has it until it's been proven otherwise. I'm inclined to agree with this. The sword was given to Parley, and that's where we're left with the story. We do not know where it is now, but the last time we saw it, Annie did not take it back. It would be completely logical if the fencer kept it.
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 21, 2018 17:58:50 GMT
Maybe my memory is faulty, but is this the most violent page of the comic so far? (As far as we know) someone is literally getting murdered onscreen. Haha, I was asking the exact same question some pages before, when that devil-guy was sliced in half over the Annan river. But I guess this one is worse, with ribs showing from the body and all. I hope Annie can do something like this for her friend. His anger has been waiting and waiting to be let out. Maybe he can end up managing it? He is far more dangerous now than Annie ever was, though. I wanted to link the same page! Maybe we'll get to see a reversal.
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 21, 2018 17:59:41 GMT
Also, why do I think of a Pinata?
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Post by Per on Feb 21, 2018 19:15:17 GMT
Also, why do I think of a Pinata? Because you've watched Dexter's Laboratory? "Your vorpal teeth go snicker-snack, and off goes Coyote's head! And CANDY starts spraying out!"
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Post by Runningflame on Feb 21, 2018 19:17:31 GMT
I hope Annie can do something like this for her friend. His anger has been waiting and waiting to be let out. Maybe he can end up managing it? He is far more dangerous now than Annie ever was, though. I think you're right. Based on Tom's talk at Google, we know that the relationship between Annie and Ysengrin is one of the most important things in the comic for him. I doubt that he's going to make a sudden 180 and have Ysengrin become a completely irrational hate-monster that Annie can never love or talk to again. She'll get through to him somehow. Maybe not in this chapter, though. (Here's hoping it's soonish. I miss the wolf-hugs.)
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Post by blazingstar on Feb 21, 2018 19:45:14 GMT
If Annie and Smitface are still around, I'm not gonna toss them the idiot ball. I'm going to put on a ball for idiots, just for them. Big ol' dance for dummies being dumb. I'm voting that after this scene is over, we'll have at least one panel of Annie and Smitty's stunned, nervous-sweaty faces. Jaws may be dropped. I'm calling it.
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Post by faiiry on Feb 21, 2018 21:41:18 GMT
Either Coyote is truly being a ham, and this was all part of a grand scheme (in my opinion probably related to the vial he gave George), or the look of utter shock on his face, in this page and the last, was genuine. Which would suggest that Coyote is a massive idiot - and I just don't think that's true.
I think there is a greater plan at work here.
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Post by Gauldoth Half-Dead on Feb 21, 2018 23:11:46 GMT
and from where I sit there just ain't enough damn dogs I have a feeling it's soon to be about 2:30 for Ysengrin. (Get it?) Hour of the wolf? Nope! Tooth hurty! I am fun.
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Post by csj on Feb 21, 2018 23:51:32 GMT
Either Coyote is truly being a ham, and this was all part of a grand scheme (in my opinion probably related to the vial he gave George), or the look of utter shock on his face, in this page and the last, was genuine. Which would suggest that Coyote is a massive idiot - and I just don't think that's true. I think there is a greater plan at work here. I have a third possibility to offer: Coyote's enormous ego/hubris made him convince himself that his plan on mental domination had worked and that any latent anger would be directed at the Court, not him. After all, Ys himself says that he loves Coyote pretty damn often, even outside of his presence. But all it would take is a trigger; anything to make him place anger in front of love. And discovering Coyote's duplicity is almost definitely involved here.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 21, 2018 23:52:22 GMT
Maybe my memory is faulty, but is this the most violent page of the comic so far? (As far as we know) someone is literally getting murdered onscreen. Luckily, Coyote doesn't really exist. Alternate theory, same chapter: His being (and what he can do and what he looks like) is dependent on the thoughts of man. The comic has had scenes with disturbing content before... We did also find out how a hand of glory was made (though it wasn't actually shown). And there was Mr. Green getting killed from Jeanne's perspective and in a recording.
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Post by Zox Tomana on Feb 21, 2018 23:59:12 GMT
Honestly after a page like the last one this just feels a little extra. Did we see her give it back? I don't remember. If we didn't, I'm going to assume she still has it until it's been proven otherwise. I'm inclined to agree with this. The sword was given to Parley, and that's where we're left with the story. We do not know where it is now, but the last time we saw it, Annie did not take it back. It would be completely logical if the fencer kept it. The sword was given to Parley, and the last we saw it the sword was lying on the floor after being dropped. If we're going purely off where we last saw it, it would be logical to conclude it was still lying on the floor in the fencing room. The next page, however, includes a Parley colored request to make the sword go away, after which we see Rey and Annie on the ground by Shadow. Context would seem to indicate that Parley backs off, horrified, while Annie and Rey act to contain the sword and tend to Shadow.
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Post by todd on Feb 22, 2018 0:26:07 GMT
I think there is a greater plan at work here. I have a third possibility to offer: Coyote's enormous ego/hubris made him convince himself that his plan on mental domination had worked and that any latent anger would be directed at the Court, not him. After all, Ys himself says that he loves Coyote pretty damn often, even outside of his presence. But all it would take is a trigger; anything to make him place anger in front of love. And discovering Coyote's duplicity is almost definitely involved here.[/quote] I think it could indeed be a case of "the trickster's schemes backfire on him - on a major level." Something that often happens in myth and legend. (My favorite example of this is the case of Loki in Norse mythology. After he antagonizes all the other gods, Loki goes into hiding in a house near a river, and if it looks as if the gods are in the area, he turns into a fish and hides in the river. He's certain that he'll be safe from capture - until one day, he can't resist wondering "How would I catch myself?" and invents the net, all as a way of showing off his cleverness. Just as he finishes making the first net, he sees the gods approaching, quickly throws the net into the fire, and dives into the river in fish-shape. But the gods find the remains of the net in the fire, figure out what it was, and make another net to catch Loki - followed by their chaining him to the rocks with the poisonous serpent dripping venom over him.)
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Post by faiiry on Feb 22, 2018 1:09:50 GMT
I caught myself thinking, "If the kids haven't run by now, they're idiots." But then I remembered that the past two pages have probably taken place over mere seconds. Annie and Smitty probably haven't had the time to process what is going on, never mind to think what to do about it. They are likely frozen with fear - and in Annie's case, after her last experience, I don't think it is likely she'll run, anyway.
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