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Post by lunaleaf on Nov 1, 2017 21:27:33 GMT
That's true. Just in my opinion it seems a little excessive. Sure, Tony is a little...off, but there's no reason to be angry about it. One thing I've noticed is that people tend to judge behaviour of other people based on what they presume their intentions are. Sometimes based on generalizations, sometimes based on specific influences. James has seen a lot of Tony behaving coldly and without explanation as they essentially grew up with the same group of people, but he probably has seen/heard a lot more from the people being hurt by that behaviour than Tony himself. Example: He was probably somewhat aware of what happened between Tony and Brinnie, for example. We know that Tony couldn't handle the situation because of personal anxiety, as does Donnie. I can't imagine that James would see the situation the same way: what he'd probably see is Brinnie expressing obvious interest in Tony and Tony reacting very coldly or impassively to an otherwise nice girl. And I don't think Donnie would necessarily clear things up for everyone because that situation comes down to his friend feeling incredibly insecure and not being comfortable sharing that aspect of himself (it's what caused the problem to start with). Apply that situation over and over again, with varying levels of severity. It's rudeness born of some psychological stress rather than being explicitly cruel, but as the situation repeats people will begin to think about why. Generally, we would jump to 'Tony is kind of a rude guy' before a more extreme 'Tony has severe emotional problems and can't express himself or his intentions". It seems like the more logical conclusion: it's less extreme and acts to protect them ("avoid the jerk, he'll just hurt your feelings"). It's not the truth, but we'd never lie if the truth was easy. |
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Post by maxptc on Nov 1, 2017 21:45:28 GMT
If you have a more shades of grey view of Mr.Robot, this chapter gave a good amount of development. He is interested in Surmas powers from a technical standpoint, he has a sense of humor that he incorporates into his information gathering process, and the thing I found most interesting is changes in plan don't trigger his anxiety, it is purely a social/group setting thing. I think the problem is that it still doesn't amount to a lot of development altogether for either Surma or Tony. We don't really know all that much more about them now than we did when this flashback started, and that wouldn't be so bad if this chapter wasn't so damn long. It ends up putting a lot of emphasis on events that....really don't amount to that much at all. Yeah, I agree with you on that. This chapter is long and while things have been happening, a lot more has happened in much shorter chapters. Considering we already knew a lot of what happened in the this situation, just minus any details, this chapter just seems like some interesting but over all irrelevant events are expanded on. |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Nov 12, 2017 9:06:17 GMT
After noticing your posts a couple months ago, I've been having trouble deciding whether you hate Tony so much you actively refuse to read any page he's on and guess at his actions based on the comments, or if you just hate the comic in general and simply come here to troll people. This is like some kind of weird inverse of 'if you love him so much, why don't you marry him' and it's just as mature. And you're not exactly giving any reason as to why I'm wrong here, you're just trying to poke at me personally in lieu of actually arguing my point. We've seen a lot of bad from Tony and going into this chapter, we kind of needed some significant development to make us care about him or see him in a different light than we have up 'til now. What we got has been....underwhelming, to say the very least. The chapter we got with Tony and Brinnie was better than this, and that chapter was a hell of a lot shorter and still more interesting. No, I don't care about that. What I mean is, I've literally never seen you make a single positive post in this forum, and it's getting suspicious. |
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Post by youwiththeface on Nov 13, 2017 23:48:47 GMT
This is like some kind of weird inverse of 'if you love him so much, why don't you marry him' and it's just as mature. And you're not exactly giving any reason as to why I'm wrong here, you're just trying to poke at me personally in lieu of actually arguing my point. We've seen a lot of bad from Tony and going into this chapter, we kind of needed some significant development to make us care about him or see him in a different light than we have up 'til now. What we got has been....underwhelming, to say the very least. The chapter we got with Tony and Brinnie was better than this, and that chapter was a hell of a lot shorter and still more interesting. No, I don't care about that. What I mean is, I've literally never seen you make a single positive post in this forum, and it's getting suspicious. You know you can literally click on my name and troll through my old posts and find positive comments, right? |
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