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Post by Daedalus on Aug 30, 2017 7:12:07 GMT
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Post by arf on Aug 30, 2017 7:14:03 GMT
Oh, Mega!
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Post by arf on Aug 30, 2017 7:16:18 GMT
Wa-ait a minute.
If this is meant to be part of Anje's recollection to the girls, that means Anje's in on it!
... or maybe Don mumbles in his sleep?
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Post by csj on Aug 30, 2017 7:25:28 GMT
GPS in the 80s. When it was heavily guarded by NATO.
That's some serious cahoots.
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Post by KMar on Aug 30, 2017 7:25:34 GMT
These days I tend to avoid the proboards forums because of this CAN WE TALK anti-adblock messages. |
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Post by hifranc on Aug 30, 2017 7:26:36 GMT
What got me was the classification:
As I understand it,* "Eyes only" only means that the document doesn't leave the building. Someone brings it to you, shows you the document and, when you have finished reading it, you sign to say that you've read it. You can't take notes or do anything else.
This also tells us that Tony is a court spy.
* I saw a lot of spy films and read a lot of books in the genre growing up.
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Post by hifranc on Aug 30, 2017 7:28:59 GMT
Wa-ait a minute. If this is meant to be part of Anje's recollection to the girls, that means Anje's in on it! ... or maybe Don mumbles in his sleep? Or, maybe, Surma told her? |
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Post by philman on Aug 30, 2017 7:31:16 GMT
Wa-ait a minute. If this is meant to be part of Anje's recollection to the girls, that means Anje's in on it! ... or maybe Don mumbles in his sleep? Well given she designed half of the magic programs that we have seen Eglamore and Donnie using (the protection barrier, the magic door), I would be surprised if she wasn't in on the big master plan somehow. |
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Post by Timberwere on Aug 30, 2017 7:40:31 GMT
This also tells us that Tony is a court spy. Carver. Anthony Carver. Shaken, not stirred. They'd better only use him for wilderness assignments, though.
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Post by noone3 on Aug 30, 2017 7:50:34 GMT
GPS in the 80s. When it was heavily guarded by NATO. That's some serious cahoots. Naaah... its CPS. Coyote Positioning Device. To make sure what you're doing is not just someone's laugh. Also: This message will self-destruct.  |
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Post by crater on Aug 30, 2017 8:00:22 GMT
GPS in the 80s. When it was heavily guarded by NATO. That's some serious cahoots. Naaah... its CPS. Coyote Positioning Device. To make sure what you're doing is not just someone's laugh. Also: This message will self-destruct. you're all wrong its actually a tricorder |
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Post by teacup on Aug 30, 2017 8:11:27 GMT
I guessed the trip was going to involve the Omega project! Also note bismuth's symbol.
I am enjoying this flashback chapter so much.
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Post by manabi on Aug 30, 2017 8:26:20 GMT
GPS in the 80s. When it was heavily guarded by NATO. That's some serious cahoots. We know that Tony and Don have their own, personal satellites in orbit (and that they've been up there a while). I don't think it's much of a stretch that the Court had their own GPS-like system in orbit in the 80s. One that was probably unknown and undetectable to the rest of the world. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 30, 2017 10:46:13 GMT
GPS in the 80s. When it was heavily guarded by NATO. That's some serious cahoots. Only a handful of people knew that some mysterious organization called the Court actually invented GPS... |
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Post by saardvark on Aug 30, 2017 11:01:29 GMT
What got me was the classification: As I understand it,* "Eyes only" only means that the document doesn't leave the building. Someone brings it to you, shows you the document and, when you have finished reading it, you sign to say that you've read it. You can't take notes or do anything else. This also tells us that Tony is a court spy. * I saw a lot of spy films and read a lot of books in the genre growing up. could just mean he has very high level clearance without being a spy, per se.... |
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Post by saardvark on Aug 30, 2017 11:09:38 GMT
I guessed the trip was going to involve the Omega project! Also note bismuth's symbol. I am enjoying this flashback chapter so much. Bismuth is used as a court symbol, so perhaps it is just an identifier - the Omega project of the Court. Or.... it *might* suggest that the Omega project has something to do with the seed Bismuth! It doesnt seem like anyone really understands how seed Bismuth works, other than the Court "grew" from it almost spontaneously. So maybe the Omega project is the effort to bring seed Bismuth and its technological "growing"-"replicating" powers fully into the Court's understanding and under its control, which would be quite powerful indeed. The seed Bismuth would seem to be a weird hybrid, able to make technology/infrastructure "grow" as though organically, almost like a Forest. |
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Post by Timberwere on Aug 30, 2017 11:32:32 GMT
GPS in the 80s. When it was heavily guarded by NATO. That's some serious cahoots. Is it the 1980s, though? I've always kind of assumed that Annie's present is our present time, as well. So if Annie is 15 now, and her parents got married a few years before her birth, and fell in love a few years before that, the excursion would be, what, 20-odd years back? So the 90s, then, not the 80s, I'd think. Was a concrete time frame ever given? But if Auntie Wiki doesn't lie, GPS was first launched in 1978, so even the 80s would theoretically be possible. And it is a clunky device |
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Post by arf on Aug 30, 2017 11:51:51 GMT
I guessed the trip was going to involve the Omega project! Also note bismuth's symbol. I am enjoying this flashback chapter so much. Bismuth is used as a court symbol, so perhaps it is just an identifier - the Omega project of the Court. Or.... it *might* suggest that the Omega project has something to do with the seed Bismuth! It doesnt seem like anyone really understands how seed Bismuth works, other than the Court "grew" from it almost spontaneously. So maybe the Omega project is the effort to bring seed Bismuth and its technological "growing"-"replicating" powers fully into the Court's understanding and under its control, which would be quite powerful indeed. The seed Bismuth would seem to be a weird hybrid, able to make technology/infrastructure "grow" as though organically, almost like a Forest. We-ell... Going along the periodic table, bismuth is the 'last' element with stable isotopes. |
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Post by Per on Aug 30, 2017 11:56:05 GMT
Tony, if you become any more anime than in panel 6, we'll kick you out of the program. These days I tend to avoid the proboards forums because of this CAN WE TALK anti-adblock messages. Thankfully it's much less aggressive if you're logged in. If they did the full-screen popup all the time, I'd stay away too. (Not sure what the logic is - they want to DEFINITELY turn away anyone who isn't already a user and won't immediately cave on adblocking?) |
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Post by arf on Aug 30, 2017 12:06:04 GMT
Slightly off-topic but, looking at pics for the upcoming TV production of "Good Omens", David Tennant would make a pretty good Tony Carver.
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Post by csj on Aug 30, 2017 12:21:53 GMT
GPS in the 80s. When it was heavily guarded by NATO. That's some serious cahoots. Is it the 1980s, though? I've always kind of assumed that Annie's present is our present time, as well. So if Annie is 15 now, and her parents got married a few years before her birth, and fell in love a few years before that, the excursion would be, what, 20-odd years back? So the 90s, then, not the 80s, I'd think. Was a concrete time frame ever given? But if Auntie Wiki doesn't lie, GPS was first launched in 1978, so even the 80s would theoretically be possible. And it is a clunky device Let's not forget that these two are still probably students and comparing this to previous experiences she seems a lot younger, I doubt she was with Tony while cajoling Renard (Tony looks like he's into his 40s by now), but who knows. Mid-late 80s makes the most sense imo, but it's not well-defined. While the US Army had their own stuff and probably obtained suitable handheld devices well before the general public, commercial handheld GPS devices (lacking precision of modern systems) weren't a thing until 1989 and would've been pretty damn clunky. To get one useful for this sort of mission, it would have to be military-grade. |
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Post by saardvark on Aug 30, 2017 12:30:36 GMT
Bismuth is used as a court symbol, so perhaps it is just an identifier - the Omega project of the Court. Or.... it *might* suggest that the Omega project has something to do with the seed Bismuth! It doesnt seem like anyone really understands how seed Bismuth works, other than the Court "grew" from it almost spontaneously. So maybe the Omega project is the effort to bring seed Bismuth and its technological "growing"-"replicating" powers fully into the Court's understanding and under its control, which would be quite powerful indeed. The seed Bismuth would seem to be a weird hybrid, able to make technology/infrastructure "grow" as though organically, almost like a Forest. We-ell... Going along the periodic table, bismuth is the 'last' element with stable isotopes. ...and Omega the last letter of the Greek alphabet. The final goal? The final solution (with historically scary implications?)?? (Actually, bismuth is also technically unstable - its most common/"stable" isotope Bi209 emits an alpha, but its half life is so long - 1.9e19 yrs, over a billion times the age the universe - that it is effectively stable.) Interestingly, Bismuth is chemically similar to Antimony (it is Antimony's heavier homolog, in chemical parlance - in the same column of the periodic table). Is Annie also the final culmination of some plan? Making the perfect human-elemental hybrid? (Getting wild-spec here...) |
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Post by todd on Aug 30, 2017 12:39:06 GMT
Wa-ait a minute. If this is meant to be part of Anje's recollection to the girls, that means Anje's in on it! ... or maybe Don mumbles in his sleep? Do we know for certain that this is Anja telling the story to Annie and Kat? It could be just an "omniscient narrator" flashback like "Ties". |
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 30, 2017 13:14:38 GMT
Wa-ait a minute. If this is meant to be part of Anje's recollection to the girls, that means Anje's in on it! ... or maybe Don mumbles in his sleep? Do we know for certain that this is Anja telling the story to Annie and Kat? It could be just an "omniscient narrator" flashback like "Ties". I've been going with "omniscient narrator" story, while Anja tells the girls a less detailed story, that hits the main points. |
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Post by fia on Aug 30, 2017 14:11:11 GMT
I just hope this chapter doesn't end on a cliffhanger. * cue James Bond theme music* Sure explains why Tony knows martial arts. Did he also teach Annie lockpicking? It seems like a spying kinda skill!!! (I particularly am fascinated by the thought that Annie is an agent for the Forest kinda and Tony is for the Court and I'm betting Jones is a total double-agent. I want an action sequence now!) |
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Post by gunnerscrag on Aug 30, 2017 14:33:21 GMT
The omega device is the courts attempt at becoming furries.
Thats why the nature.
Thats why some go to the forest.
Thats why the animal gods.
Its all a bunch teachers in fur costumes. Tony wont be safe for long.
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Post by Grabix on Aug 30, 2017 15:59:20 GMT
Do we know for certain that this is Anja telling the story to Annie and Kat? It could be just an "omniscient narrator" flashback like "Ties". I've been going with "omniscient narrator" story, while Anja tells the girls a less detailed story, that hits the main points. That wouldn't make much sense. That would mean that we learn some data, and Annie learns some data, but not all that we do, and there is no way for Tom to inform us which one she knows and which she doesn't. This would be very weird approach to narration. |
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Post by Deepbluediver on Aug 30, 2017 16:22:10 GMT
Surma's probably thinking: "So if the scientific study is apparently just a cover for our SECRET BLACK OPS MISSIONS, then why couldn't we be pretending to study something cool, like tigers, or at least not-icky, like plants?"
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Post by Nepycros on Aug 30, 2017 18:45:06 GMT
I wonder how many generations of Carvers have been at the Court.
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Post by Per on Aug 30, 2017 19:41:25 GMT
Annie's probably thinking SNAP OUT OF IT I wonder how many generations of Carvers have been at the Court. Maybe a Carver was a field medic in the same army as the Artilleryman? |
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