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Post by jda on Feb 22, 2017 14:16:47 GMT
Even before the last 2 pages I expected Blue (IstillBelieve!) to get all "So, your name is Blue! - (sigh) wow,finally I can get rid of you all, and specially you, Red McButtface! See you never!" And leave without even bothering to close the door. NOW, I fully expect her to take Aiylu and go all "thanks", cuff Red some good ones, and leave storming, never forgiving Red for messing with her name.
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Post by ohthatone on Feb 22, 2017 14:21:31 GMT
hahahaha AyiBlue's face in the last panel XDDD
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Post by jda on Feb 22, 2017 14:28:23 GMT
If Annie got Lazer eyes, Ayilu gonna go all Cyclops on Red.
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Post by scottjm on Feb 22, 2017 14:28:37 GMT
It even sounds Indian. Btw, is this an actual existing word/name? Yup, it is a rare surname. From India
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Post by shadowhunter on Feb 22, 2017 14:31:49 GMT
Will there be more of Annie's chaste shrugging at romantic fools failing to sensibly discuss their feelings? Is Annie actually asexual or what? Annie seems aromantic asexual to me, at least. I think she's just never really been lucky in love. She's felt moments of attraction, at least of some kind. And her being 'only single girl' came up a few times during The Torn Sea.
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Post by calpal on Feb 22, 2017 14:36:06 GMT
I like that, looking up Ayilu, it also seems to be strongly associated with the Indian region, which I guess... is fitting, yeah?
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Post by scottjm on Feb 22, 2017 14:40:52 GMT
I agree with the OP, this could be worse! Can a fairy be unhappy with the name she's given? Is Ayilu gay for Red? Will there be more of Annie's chaste shrugging at romantic fools failing to sensibly discuss their feelings? Is Annie actually asexual or what? Will "love makes you act in strange ways" be invoked? So many questions! Annie seems aromantic asexual to me, at least. I think it is more she does not express her desires the same as others, but more like her Father. Plus not really liking any of the boys her age that we have seen. I think there was a image/flashback/fantasy when zimmy went into her head in divine that seemed to show the desire, but not for anyone in the court. EDIT : Pages 1035 and 1036
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Post by Lightice on Feb 22, 2017 14:43:15 GMT
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Post by Rasselas on Feb 22, 2017 14:50:59 GMT
Annie seems aromantic asexual to me, at least. I think it's more that romantic entanglement wouldn't come easily to someone who had to watch what it did to her parents. Her mother died because she had Annie, and her father went completely mad, ran off to who-knows-where and cut off his own hand. Wouldn't anyone be apprehensive under those circumstances? She has shown romantic interests and capabilities before, flirting with Jack and the guy from the forest. As for sexuality, it may be too early for that to manifest because she's fairly young. Also, it wouldn't be surprising to have some hesitation about it, when the product of sexuality literally kills her.
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Post by kittygirlhazel on Feb 22, 2017 15:32:42 GMT
Let's face it, there's no way that Ayilu here would be named Blue. The law of comedy dictates that Red would have gotten it wrong at some point. And what an adorable way to get it wrong!
"Ayilu" is a pretty cute name, though. Given that it's based on "I love you", I wager it's pronounced with a long A - so, "ay-il-oo" would be my guess.
...Hopefully, it's not pronounced "ayy lmao", as appropriate for an ex-faerie that would be.
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Post by snowflake on Feb 22, 2017 16:01:45 GMT
I agree with this observation, but on the other hand, the words you will one day leave me suggest aromantic really strongly to me. She doesn't assume they'd both get relationships and drift apart; she's not frustrated by not having a relationship and not seeing herself have one in the future; she just feels she's staying behind while Kat's life develops in a direction that's closed before Annie. I assume this question will get resolved in due time, but in the meantime, I don't know how to connect these two puzzle pieces together.
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Post by Druplesnubb on Feb 22, 2017 16:03:48 GMT
How many pairs of friends who are actually just friends are there left in this comic? Between Shadow+Robot, Zimmy+Gamma, Smitty+Parley and now Red+Ayilu it seems there's only one left. (I don't think Donlan+Anthony counts because they aren't nearly as close as they used to be, otherwise I'd be worried for Anja).
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Post by speedwell on Feb 22, 2017 16:14:38 GMT
I like that, looking up Ayilu, it also seems to be strongly associated with the Indian region, which I guess... is fitting, yeah? As best I can ascertain, it's Urdu, and means "yellow". Which makes me doubt there is actually anything behind the name other than Red's klutziness.
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Post by speedwell on Feb 22, 2017 16:15:17 GMT
I can't believe Blue is actually named Yellow (...well, close enough) No, actually dead on, heh.
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Post by goldenknots on Feb 22, 2017 16:19:53 GMT
Stats ‘Ayilu’ has been looked up 253 times, is no one's favorite word yet, is on no lists yet, has no comments yet, and is not a valid Scrabble word. From HERE.
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Post by fia on Feb 22, 2017 16:21:02 GMT
Ahahahahaha. Tom's such a master troll, just like Red. I love this comic.
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Post by sable0aria on Feb 22, 2017 16:44:39 GMT
Annie's expression is already the best thing, but the page is somehow made even better by her only showing up in that one panel.
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 22, 2017 17:05:25 GMT
We really do need some clarification on the Naming System. Will we have to sweat profusely every time we say her name? I value my electrolytes.
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Post by Demonsul on Feb 22, 2017 17:25:51 GMT
YA BLEW IT
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Post by guitarminotaur on Feb 22, 2017 17:29:03 GMT
"Quick, she's not buying it!"
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Post by Zox Tomana on Feb 22, 2017 17:40:47 GMT
Annie seems aromantic asexual to me, at least. I think it's more that romantic entanglement wouldn't come easily to someone who had to watch what it did to her parents. Her mother died because she had Annie, and her father went completely mad, ran off to who-knows-where and cut off his own hand. Wouldn't anyone be apprehensive under those circumstances? She has shown romantic interests and capabilities before, flirting with Jack and the guy from the forest. As for sexuality, it may be too early for that to manifest because she's fairly young. Also, it wouldn't be surprising to have some hesitation about it, when the product of sexuality literally kills her. Too young for sexuality? Kids start puberty around 11 or 12 on average. 17 is the age of consent in my home state, but everyone knows about the 16, 15, 14, and 13 year olds "experimenting" with each other. There've been 7th graders who've gotten pregnant in my hometown. Annie is perfectly old enough to be sexual. Annie expressed a non-interest in romantic connections to Rey in some earlier chapters, although she did show some inclinations during her stay in the Forest. Point is, Annie is an actual, realistic human being. Not every teen is actively seeking out sex or romance, and teens which are do so to different degrees. This is true for people of almost all ages (here we must except those who actually are too young for such things).
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Post by rosencrantz on Feb 22, 2017 18:08:26 GMT
This is a great page.
If you ever need to undo a confession, just let them know you were nicknaming them. And that nickname is "Ayilu".
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Post by Rasselas on Feb 22, 2017 18:41:07 GMT
I think it's more that romantic entanglement wouldn't come easily to someone who had to watch what it did to her parents. Her mother died because she had Annie, and her father went completely mad, ran off to who-knows-where and cut off his own hand. Wouldn't anyone be apprehensive under those circumstances? She has shown romantic interests and capabilities before, flirting with Jack and the guy from the forest. As for sexuality, it may be too early for that to manifest because she's fairly young. Also, it wouldn't be surprising to have some hesitation about it, when the product of sexuality literally kills her. Too young for sexuality? Kids start puberty around 11 or 12 on average. 17 is the age of consent in my home state, but everyone knows about the 16, 15, 14, and 13 year olds "experimenting" with each other. There've been 7th graders who've gotten pregnant in my hometown. Annie is perfectly old enough to be sexual. Annie expressed a non-interest in romantic connections to Rey in some earlier chapters, although she did show some inclinations during her stay in the Forest. Point is, Annie is an actual, realistic human being. Not every teen is actively seeking out sex or romance, and teens which are do so to different degrees. This is true for people of almost all ages (here we must except those who actually are too young for such things). I didn't say she was too young for sexuality. I said it might be too early for it to manifest, meaning that it's too early for us to see signs within the progression of the story. We've seen Kat's forays into a young relationship, but we haven't seen much outward sexuality, just kissing. Outward expressed sexuality was shown between Anja and Donald, for example here and here. We've also seen it shown between Jeanne and her elf guy. With Kat and Paz, it still had the touch of innocence that is appropriate for their age. I think Tom conveyed it really well. Mainly, I wanted to point out that there are plot-related reasons for Annie to be apprehensive from pursuing romantic or sexual entanglements. It could also be that she doesn't feel like it yet, but it's difficult to imagine that the story of her parents and its implications wouldn't weigh on her at all.
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Post by arkadi on Feb 22, 2017 19:18:29 GMT
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Post by ohthatone on Feb 22, 2017 19:20:44 GMT
This is a great page. If you ever need to undo a confession, just let them know you were nicknaming them. And that nickname is "Ayilu". Should come in handy during a divorce proceeding.
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Post by westwindreborn on Feb 22, 2017 19:22:04 GMT
A Google search for Ayilu brings up some interesting results. One site shows its a name used in India. Can't find its meaning though.
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Post by KMar on Feb 22, 2017 20:36:45 GMT
Too young for sexuality? Kids start puberty around 11 or 12 on average. 17 is the age of consent in my home state, but everyone knows about the 16, 15, 14, and 13 year olds "experimenting" with each other. There've been 7th graders who've gotten pregnant in my hometown. Annie is perfectly old enough to be sexual. Annie expressed a non-interest in romantic connections to Rey in some earlier chapters, although she did show some inclinations during her stay in the Forest. Point is, Annie is an actual, realistic human being. Not every teen is actively seeking out sex or romance, and teens which are do so to different degrees. This is true for people of almost all ages (here we must except those who actually are too young for such things). I didn't say she was too young for sexuality. I said it might be too early for it to manifest, meaning that it's too early for us to see signs within the progression of the story. We've seen Kat's forays into a young relationship, but we haven't seen much outward sexuality, just kissing. Outward expressed sexuality was shown between Anja and Donald, for example here and here. We've also seen it shown between Jeanne and her elf guy. With Kat and Paz, it still had the touch of innocence that is appropriate for their age. I think Tom conveyed it really well. Mainly, I wanted to point out that there are plot-related reasons for Annie to be apprehensive from pursuing romantic or sexual entanglements. It could also be that she doesn't feel like it yet, but it's difficult to imagine that the story of her parents and its implications wouldn't weigh on her at all. I agree; remember that (at least last I heard), Tom's is still attempting to keep this mostly all-age family friendly comic. Any reference to teenagers' search for their sexuality is not probably going to be more explicit than Coyote joking that Andrew and Parley smell like a married couple. I'd wager with more restraint applied younger the characters in question are. And yeah, as far as we have been allowed to peek in her dreams, Annie seem to have a thing for handsome, muscular, green-colored guys. I think it's more of a question of there not being that many boys of suitable age in her social circles. And then there are all the emotional and psychological complications not unlike her father's at same age. (And even there weren't, well, this may come as a shock to some of you, but not everybody everywhere starts, to use ZoxTomona's term, "experimenting" when they hit 12 years, so one really should not take the lack of it -- especially in a narrative, where everything is controlled by the author by definition -- as a definite sign of asexuality or a-whatever.)
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Post by fish on Feb 22, 2017 21:52:00 GMT
A Google search for Ayilu brings up some interesting results. One site shows its a name used in India. Can't find its meaning though. Look no further than thirteen comments above yours. Speedwell found the meaning and google translate seems to confirm it. Oh, the irony. I wonder if this was deliberate on Tom's part.
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Post by grahamf on Feb 23, 2017 0:32:22 GMT
YOU DUN GOOFED
Also, Ayilu isn't wearing any Blue...
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Post by Runningflame on Feb 23, 2017 2:49:01 GMT
I agree with this observation, but on the other hand, the words you will one day leave me suggest aromantic really strongly to me. She doesn't assume they'd both get relationships and drift apart; she's not frustrated by not having a relationship and not seeing herself have one in the future; she just feels she's staying behind while Kat's life develops in a direction that's closed before Annie. I assume this question will get resolved in due time, but in the meantime, I don't know how to connect these two puzzle pieces together. Consider Annie's background. She grew up in very isolated circumstances; it appears that she didn't really interact with anybody except her parents for the first 10? 11? years of her life. (Except psychopomps, and hospital patients who were always gone the next day.) And then, suddenly, the two people she depended on for everything abandoned her: her mother by dying,* and her father by just leaving. That kind of trauma has a huge effect on a child her age. So I am not at all surprised that she would assume, subconsciously, that everybody close to her to will abandon her eventually. And when she sees her closest friend getting close to somebody else "instead," she assumes that this is exactly what's happening. It's a very natural reaction. The real surprise, actually, is how self-aware she is about it, and how quickly she and Kat patch things up. Many in her situation would have reacted more like this. (Okay, maybe a tad less dramatically.) * No, Surma didn't choose to abandon her, but that is often how a child feels when a parent dies. (And even there weren't, well, this may come as a shock to some of you, but not everybody everywhere starts, to use ZoxTomona's term, "experimenting" when they hit 12 years, so one really should not take the lack of it -- especially in a narrative, where everything is controlled by the author by definition -- as a definite sign of asexuality or a-whatever.) Thank you. There are plenty of people Annie's age (and older!) who decide they're not looking for that kind of relationship yet, while definitely looking forward to it in the future. Sure, Annie feels left out when it seems like all her friends are pairing off with each other; I, and single people I know, have experienced the same frustration, when our dating/married friends never seem to spend time with us like they used to. But she's decided to remain single for the present, and she's doing her best to communicate that--as long as she has her friends around her-- she's happy that way.
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