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Post by Daedalus on Feb 1, 2017 8:00:08 GMT
Well that's just wonderful for Annie. I wonder if this was their end goal all along. And how literally we should interpret this statement. You know what is wonderful? It's my 21st birthday today! No better way to celebrate than with Gunnerkrigg Court!
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Post by speedwell on Feb 1, 2017 8:03:58 GMT
From the look on her face when she sees the two rejoicing couples, maybe she wouldn't have been so ready to belong to Team Death if she had belonged to anyone else.
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Post by Sky Schemer on Feb 1, 2017 8:04:51 GMT
All her base are belong to them.
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Post by Saliant on Feb 1, 2017 8:06:11 GMT
Well, that's not ominous or anything.
Also, as it was stated before... I'm not sure Coyote is going to be too terribly happy with people laying claim to his little fire-haired girl.
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Post by bedinsis on Feb 1, 2017 8:07:45 GMT
That's an ominous statement by the afterlife guides. Parley's and Smitty's reactions lets me believe that they never saw the guides. You know what is wonderful? It's my 21st birthday today! No better way to celebrate than with Gunnerkrigg Court! Congratulations! Now if only a teleporting couple could put party hats on everyone.
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Post by noone3 on Feb 1, 2017 8:08:28 GMT
She just joined the Psychopomp Labor Union, or something? Whadda'ya think, Frank?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 1, 2017 8:25:06 GMT
Still thinking that the Court med tech could probably have saved Smitface. Though the wound was etheric, they should have someone with some knowledge about ghost-caused wounds. They must have encountered something like this before. Of course, then the price would have been the inability to keep this incident secret. I'm not sure Coyote is going to be too terribly happy with people laying claim to his little fire-haired girl. He'll laugh when he finds out. And if he can still be entertained by her now and then I doubt he'll do anything.
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Post by drdave on Feb 1, 2017 8:41:33 GMT
"It was worth it."
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Post by rafk on Feb 1, 2017 8:48:21 GMT
I hope that's belong in a "one of us!" kind of way and not in a "we own your soul now, mortal slave" kind of way.
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Post by rafk on Feb 1, 2017 8:49:38 GMT
Of course, then the price would have been the inability to keep this incident secret. This is so not secret. If this isn't tripping alarms the Court didn't even remember it has, they're doing it wrong.
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Post by snowflake on Feb 1, 2017 8:53:13 GMT
So what does this entail for Annie's everyday life? Does she still get to study at the Court and work for Coyote, and just needs to be available for the Guides' tasks for her, or does she get taken away to some unearthly realm?
Page 1 of the comic allows me to hope for the former (or she could stay at the Court but be forced to quit Coyote), but it's obvious from her reaction that this is A Big Deal.
P.S. Panel 4 Annie is record levels of lovely, in a sad Being Happy For The Humans From Across The Insurmountable Divide kind of way.
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Post by speedwell on Feb 1, 2017 9:01:58 GMT
I don't think Surma was ever an active psychopomp in good standing. That may be the real reason the "guild" repudiated her in the end and made Annie take her over. No reason for them to tell the truth when Annie was too young to understand about responsibilities and bargains in the spiritual realm.
While I'm on the subject of adults repudiating their responsibility, I have a horrible feeling that the next soul for which Annie has to act as psychopomp may be her own despairing, broken, useless-at-his-life's-work and unsuccessful-at-containing-his-daughter father. I hope the reconciliation happens another way.
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Post by twilightfire on Feb 1, 2017 9:10:17 GMT
I hope that's belong in a "one of us!" kind of way and not in a "we own your soul now, mortal slave" kind of way. Annie's soul is a fire elemental, she is in no way mortal. I'm kinda worried they're gonna force her to be immortal, if I'm being honest. at least she got a cool memento back from a rather dashing, now ethered, fae boy.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 1, 2017 9:40:20 GMT
Of course, then the price would have been the inability to keep this incident secret. This is so not secret. If this isn't tripping alarms the Court didn't even remember it has, they're doing it wrong. Once Jeanne became the guardian of the Annan putting an alarm down there would be problematic. Diego's pretty smart but if he did put a "Jeanne's been freed" alarm on the arrow it would probably ring in his workshop, and the Court doesn't monitor that (that we know of). Assuming they bipped down there then they shouldn't have set off the one alarm we (and they) know about, unless they carelessly do so on the way back.
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Post by ariestinak on Feb 1, 2017 9:49:56 GMT
OK. Annie now belongs to three different factions. Nothing could go wrong with that. I'm already envisioning a situation where Annie is ordered to do contradictory actions because of her afflictions.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Feb 1, 2017 9:59:29 GMT
Wow, Smitty, so lucky that you brought a human sacrifice!!
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Post by fish on Feb 1, 2017 10:19:48 GMT
We all know how Annie loooooves it when someone stakes a claim on her... at least Coyote gave her the illusion of a choice.
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Post by meltea on Feb 1, 2017 11:18:07 GMT
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Post by ST13R on Feb 1, 2017 11:29:42 GMT
They'll ask Annie what her jurisdiction will be and she'll jokingly say 'Electrical appliances'.
Kat will make sure Annie has actual work to do.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Feb 1, 2017 11:38:31 GMT
Now Annie has another reason to be angsty that no one else will understand. Goth Annie FTW!
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Post by csj on Feb 1, 2017 11:40:13 GMT
She just joined the Psychopomp Labor Union, or something? She wish. It's more a Guild than a Union. There are some perks but the membership fees are a killer.
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Post by calpal on Feb 1, 2017 12:00:34 GMT
No, Tom, this does not feel like it's all better.
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Post by fish on Feb 1, 2017 12:34:28 GMT
Now Annie has another reason to be angsty that no one else will understand. Goth Annie FTW! More Goth Annie in the Opportunity thread, please!
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Post by todd on Feb 1, 2017 12:39:20 GMT
Once Jeanne became the guardian of the Annan putting an alarm down there would be problematic. Diego's pretty smart but if he did put a "Jeanne's been freed" alarm on the arrow it would probably ring in his workshop, and the Court doesn't monitor that (that we know of). Assuming they bipped down there then they shouldn't have set off the one alarm we (and they) know about, unless they carelessly do so on the way back. Which is still possible, though they've managed a lot of "sneaking around at night" activity without the Court being the wiser (unless it only acts when the students get clumsy - not because they broke the rules, but because they didn't do a good enough job of covering up their rule-breaking).
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Post by snowflake on Feb 1, 2017 13:52:16 GMT
While I'm on the subject of adults repudiating their responsibility, I have a horrible feeling that the next soul for which Annie has to act as psychopomp may be her own despairing, broken, useless-at-his-life's-work and unsuccessful-at-containing-his-daughter father. I hope the reconciliation happens another way. Just when I thought Anthony couldn't have any more resemblance to Nathan Wallace from "Repo! The Genetic Opera", another checkbox is added to the list of similarities.
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Post by Zox Tomana on Feb 1, 2017 14:07:52 GMT
Still thinking that the Court med tech could probably have saved Smitface. Though the wound was etheric, they should have someone with some knowledge about ghost-caused wounds. They must have encountered something like this before. Of course, then the price would have been the inability to keep this incident secret. Still rather certain that the wound was decidedly *not* etheric. Jeanne could cut Kat's little cameras in half. Just because she was an etheric-type being does not mean her wounds are etheric, since beings which live etherically can and *do* interact on a physical level with the world (Spirit!Annie picking a flower or closing a laptop or shutting down robots, Jeanne cutting Kat's cameras in half, Coyote doing any number of things. The curious thing here is not that Smitty's wound was a real, physical, killing blow, but that Annie's cheek cut was something less-than-physical. Personally, I feel that there are still unanswered questions with that scene, unless there is Word of Tom about it. Namely... was Jeanne truly present on that far side of the river? It's more a Guild than a Union. There are some perks but the membership fees are a killer. I tip my hat to you, good sir.
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 1, 2017 14:43:10 GMT
Now Annie has another reason to be angsty that no one else will understand. Goth Annie FTW! This made me laugh so much. That, and the thought of Rey looking at her, over a pair of glasses, and sighing loudly. Rey: "Teenagers..."I wonder if they can make the wound reappear, if Annie steps out of line. But, what is the line? I still don't get why she's so against 'ferrying'. Maybe, we're still missing something. Outside of the grudge Annie holds for them(and the unnecessarily d*@#ish thing they just said), the psychosquad don't seem too villainous. Maybe, it's Annie not being able to help people when they need it, therefore, not wanting the psychpomp duties.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 1, 2017 14:46:33 GMT
The curious thing here is not that Smitty's wound was a real, physical, killing blow, but that Annie's cheek cut was something less-than-physical... Personally, I feel that there are still unanswered questions with that scene, unless there is Word of Tom about it. Namely... was Jeanne truly present on that far side of the river? Agree; the comic is replete with instances of the etheric impacting the material, but does also include times when etheric events do not seem to affect the material, like when the boy's fire did not burn the hospital room. My theory is that the Gunnerverse operates on a continuum. The Tooth provides evidence of something in between, I think. The only thing I can recall that was Formsprung or Q+A'd about the night that Antimony got her cheek-scar was that Jeanne left when Kat arrived because she (Jeanne) was not supposed to be there (on that side). My guess is that Antimony's etheric attractiveness is the reason why Jeanne was able to cross the Annan, at least in some form, and when Kat appeared the distraction was enough to break the "spell" (for lack of a better term). Because that side was "out of bounds" Jeanne's strike didn't have the same effect on flesh and bone that it would normally. While this explanation (mental gymnastics?) can explain Antimony's cut it doesn't predict that Smitface's wound is etherically fatal by necessity, as Jeanne was both outside her area and didn't try to inflict a fatal blow, however it suggests that the wound to Smitty would have damaged his etheric self, and likely would stop or diminish his powers. I was secretly hoping that he'd apply pressure to his wound so I could see if the blood returned or clotted faster, or if that would otherwise heal or order things, but that didn't happen.
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Post by Jota on Feb 1, 2017 14:57:10 GMT
One other possible interpretation of "you belong to us now" that I haven't seen mentioned yet: What if she now belongs to them in the same way that everyone else does?
They didn't come for Surma because she didn't belong to them. She wasn't in their jurisdiction, because her essence as a fire elemental was passed on to Annie instead. But what if that essence now does belongs to them, the same as any other mortal's soul? What would that mean for Annie? And for any children she might have?
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Post by jda on Feb 1, 2017 15:06:26 GMT
One other possible interpretation of "you belong to us now" that I haven't seen mentioned yet: What if she now belongs to them in the same way that everyone else does? They didn't come for Surma because she didn't belong to them. She wasn't in their jurisdiction, because her essence as a fire elemental was passed on to Annie instead. But what if that essence now does belongs to them, the same as any other mortal's soul? What would that mean for Annie? And for any children she might have? Well, in that light, she just sacrificed her choice/ability to have any children: a life for a life. Her lineage ends with her.
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