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Post by chrisjenl on Oct 17, 2016 7:02:32 GMT
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Post by atteSmythe on Oct 17, 2016 7:03:04 GMT
Strings pull both ways. :/
ETA: I keep trying to figure out what the aftermath of this looks like, even if everything goes right from here on out. The Court was ready to expel Annie before, and this whole little adventure is an order of magnitude worse. I can't figure out how this ends well, even if it ends well.
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Post by erunion on Oct 17, 2016 7:03:40 GMT
Oh dang.
I hope that entanglement is intentional and not an accident. Else something may be cut that ought not to be cut.
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Post by eyemyself on Oct 17, 2016 7:04:33 GMT
Well, that is interesting.
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Post by arf on Oct 17, 2016 7:26:30 GMT
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Post by chrisjenl on Oct 17, 2016 7:31:23 GMT
I don't see parts of Robot some where. So is he cut of was Blue still enough in control to let it look like he is cut in pieces? Or got Tom not taken the time to let or see it?
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Post by philman on Oct 17, 2016 7:46:16 GMT
Hmm, so does Smitty intentionally wrap his string around Jeanne's arm in panel 5? Or were they always there, and Jeanne is only just noticing them now? If the latter it at least provides some explanation as to how Jeanne managed to miss stabbing Blue.
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 17, 2016 8:00:59 GMT
Hopefully we get to see Smitty pull a Big Damn Heroes moment here.
The alternative, if he fails...is too horrible to contemplate.
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Post by Shire on Oct 17, 2016 9:15:48 GMT
But now I'm free there are no strings on... oh. Dammit!
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Post by foresterr on Oct 17, 2016 9:37:42 GMT
My bet is, this is a setup for Parley's Limit Break (when Jeanne attacks smitface).
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Post by fish on Oct 17, 2016 9:55:08 GMT
Noooooo! Bad foreshadowing! Bad foreshadowing! Why do Smitty's powers have to be strings, something basically made to be cut... Speaking of cuts, we're going back to Annie or Kat the next page, aren't we.
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Post by duegon on Oct 17, 2016 9:57:58 GMT
I hope this leads to a scene where Jeanne trying to rage ghost Smitty in the face but not quite managing to do it every single time.
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Post by snowflake on Oct 17, 2016 10:22:26 GMT
I'm guessing the strands directed Jeanne's aim just so... (Does Smitty know about them?) He knows they exist. Or did you mean to ask whether he knows they are wrapped around Jeanne right now?
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Oct 17, 2016 10:44:42 GMT
It doesn't take a Jeanne-ius to follow the strings from Smitty to Parley and make the connection. //* Parley sure seems slow when viewed at Jeanne-Speed. Jeanne could probably do her nails before parrying Parley's first swing. I wonder if Jeanne can see Parley while she is bipping from one place to another?
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Post by Purgatorius on Oct 17, 2016 10:57:01 GMT
"Suddenly, I am wearing a christmas tree garment."
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Post by puntino on Oct 17, 2016 11:10:15 GMT
Ha! Called it! c:
Now to see if she's able to cut these lines or if she'll dash at the puppeteer himself.
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 17, 2016 12:01:44 GMT
Jinx! It doesn't take a Jeanne-ius to follow the strings from Smitty to Parley and make the connection. //* Parley sure seems slow when viewed at Jeanne-Speed. Jeanne could probably do her nails before parrying Parley's first swing. I wonder if Jeanne can see Parley while she is bipping from one place to another? It's more interesting that Parley doesn't teleport already. Does she try to keep this ace in her sleeve or does she refrain from using magick around Jeanne after the misadventure with blinker stone?
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Post by todd on Oct 17, 2016 12:45:46 GMT
ETA: I keep trying to figure out what the aftermath of this looks like, even if everything goes right from here on out. The Court was ready to expel Annie before, and this whole little adventure is an order of magnitude worse. I can't figure out how this ends well, even if it ends well. That depends on whether the Court even learns about the incident; it's not omniscient. I doubt that the Court was telling the truth to Antony about planning to expel Annie; its leaders are probably intelligent enough to realize that you want to keep somebody like that where you can watch over them and know what they're doing, rather than far off and unmonitorable. But if the Court did find out.... If it was up to the Donlans and Eglamore, I think they'd sympathize with what Annie did, if regretting that she hadn't come to them and let the grown-ups handle it. But I'm afraid that the Headmaster and the other Court administrators will see in Jeanne and her lover, not two wrongfully-imprisoned souls who needed to be set free, but merely an automatic defense system, and would be furious with Annie and the rest for freeing them. (Anyone willing to hide behind a broken and traumatized man when an angry coyote-god shows up can't have much moral backbone.) But from a story-telling point of view, this makes it most likely that Tom won't have the Court leadership find out - as I mentioned before, their response would most likely be to place such heavy punishment on Annie and Kat (if they found out about the latter's role in it) that they'd be unlikely to have any more adventures for a long time, making it difficult for Tom to tell more stories (short of flashbacks to when the previous generation were students at the Court, promoting secondary characters like Paz to "temporary leads", etc.). So I suspect that he'll have the Court leadership remain unaware of what happened down there, for the sake of being able to continue the story.
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 17, 2016 13:26:18 GMT
Well, we've all wondered about Smitty's powers and their limits. We may get some of our answers; one way or another.
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Post by calpal on Oct 17, 2016 13:39:04 GMT
ETA: I keep trying to figure out what the aftermath of this looks like, even if everything goes right from here on out. The Court was ready to expel Annie before, and this whole little adventure is an order of magnitude worse. I can't figure out how this ends well, even if it ends well. That depends on whether the Court even learns about the incident; it's not omniscient. I doubt that the Court was telling the truth to Antony about planning to expel Annie; its leaders are probably intelligent enough to realize that you want to keep somebody like that where you can watch over them and know what they're doing, rather than far off and unmonitorable. But if the Court did find out.... If it was up to the Donlans and Eglamore, I think they'd sympathize with what Annie did, if regretting that she hadn't come to them and let the grown-ups handle it. But I'm afraid that the Headmaster and the other Court administrators will see in Jeanne and her lover, not two wrongfully-imprisoned souls who needed to be set free, but merely an automatic defense system, and would be furious with Annie and the rest for freeing them. (Anyone willing to hide behind a broken and traumatized man when an angry coyote-god shows up can't have much moral backbone.) But from a story-telling point of view, this makes it most likely that Tom won't have the Court leadership find out - as I mentioned before, their response would most likely be to place such heavy punishment on Annie and Kat (if they found out about the latter's role in it) that they'd be unlikely to have any more adventures for a long time, making it difficult for Tom to tell more stories (short of flashbacks to when the previous generation were students at the Court, promoting secondary characters like Paz to "temporary leads", etc.). So I suspect that he'll have the Court leadership remain unaware of what happened down there, for the sake of being able to continue the story. Alternatively, if the Court attempted to punish Kat, Robot and his ilk may have a few strongly-worded suggestions otherwise. Still holding onto the belief that the entire Robo-cult story will reach a sort of climax after Jeanne's passing, whereby the Court goes too far against Kat and actually ends up causing the Robots to defect and tell them "No, sod off!". And thus, we have a Civil War in the Court. That's my bet.
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Post by Trillium on Oct 17, 2016 14:13:51 GMT
Hopefully we get to see Smitty pull a Big Damn Heroes moment here. The alternative, if he fails...is too horrible to contemplate. Smitty's ability to nudge things to a positive outcome can only go so far. He has to be careful not push things too far to his favor or things will go badly for someone else. George may be able to deflect an attack on Smitty. Jeanne might want to pause and consider her next course of action. The four kids facing off with Jeanne are distractions while Annie is getting to the bottom of what is going on with the green arrow and Jeanne's ghost lover. Kat still has something up her sleeve. As for what the Court does, depends a lot on what actually happens down there by the river.
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Post by hnau on Oct 17, 2016 14:17:55 GMT
If she recognizes Smitty's lucky strings, she might just ask him to find her misplaced marble lover.
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Post by jda on Oct 17, 2016 15:18:31 GMT
If she recognizes Smitty's lucky strings, she might just ask him to find her misplaced marble lover. Indeed. "Oh, he is down there in the river, you know, where the two indefense girls are trying to yank him out of existence".
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Post by haspen on Oct 17, 2016 15:20:16 GMT
Hopefully we get to see Smitty pull a Big Damn Heroes moment here. The alternative, if he fails...is too horrible to contemplate. She will gut him like a fish \o/
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Post by jda on Oct 17, 2016 15:22:32 GMT
Hopefully we get to see Smitty pull a Big Damn Heroes moment here. The alternative, if he fails...is too horrible to contemplate. She will gut him like a fish \o/ Like an already stringed fish
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Post by madragoran on Oct 17, 2016 18:51:45 GMT
She will gut him like a fish \o/ Like an already stringed fish Poor Smitty... I can't even begin to guess though. Tom is dragging this out and spinning it [as he should in a book form]. it's just frustrating when you read a page every two days.
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Post by todd on Oct 17, 2016 23:43:52 GMT
Alternatively, if the Court attempted to punish Kat, Robot and his ilk may have a few strongly-worded suggestions otherwise. Still holding onto the belief that the entire Robo-cult story will reach a sort of climax after Jeanne's passing, whereby the Court goes too far against Kat and actually ends up causing the Robots to defect and tell them "No, sod off!". And thus, we have a Civil War in the Court. That's my bet. I'd been wondering about what consequences the Court punishing Kat (if such an event came to pass) would have on the robot religion. (It might even be tempting to imagine part of the Court's motivation being an attempt to end the robot religion - if the people at the top became aware of it and saw it as a threat - giving Kat detention in front of the robot commuity in the hopes of convincing them that she's just a regular schoolgirl and not a goddess. With the possibility of a Court official unable to resist saying to the robots, "Where's your messiah now?") Even if the robots don't start an immediate uprising (now I'm envisioning Kat doing all she can to stop them with a cry of "Put up your sword!" to Robot), the "lords of the Court" might find themselves occupying a role in that religion as a Satan-counterpart (or, alternately, a role like that of Pilate and the Pharisees and Sadducees in Christianity).
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Post by atteSmythe on Oct 18, 2016 2:28:17 GMT
Oh, and I was thinking - this update certainly makes the last look like much, much less than a cop-out, IMO. Yeah, seeing Blue stabbed was shocking...but it was Jeanne's point of view, and now we get two updates in a row dedicated to her confusion that that didn't really happen, and trying to figure out how. Jeanne is still single-mindedly trying to kill them.
...and trying to defend herself at the same time. Some of that was from the illusion, but I get the impression she still feels vulnerable. It's interesting, since we haven't seen any weakness of hers even hinted at.
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Post by Deepbluediver on Oct 18, 2016 4:10:00 GMT
Oh dang. I hope that entanglement is intentional and not an accident. Else something may be cut that ought not to be cut. Last chapter (I think) when Annie first noticed the strings Smitty didn't even seem to know about them- I'm guessing any entanglements are completely unintentional on his part. Oh, and I was thinking - this update certainly makes the last look like much, much less than a cop-out, IMO. Ok, I've been keeping out of this argument, but I really don't get how ANYONE can think can think Blue actually got stabbed for more than half a second. Right back in the beginning of the chapter we can clearly see all the characters moving around in fairy-vision world in ways unrelated to their real bodies: gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1705It might have been shocking for a split-second but I really feel that anyone who's complaining about this being a "cop-out" or something didn't stop to think about it even the slightest bit.
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Post by anisky on Oct 18, 2016 5:27:44 GMT
Cookies to the lurker from back in the thread for www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1693 : *Peeks out of lurking hole* Calling it now. The strings are attached to Jean, or failing that, her lover (as in they'll disappear into the river). *Ducks back into lurking hole*
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