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Post by euendo on Oct 31, 2012 9:46:25 GMT
Ha-- wha-- I-- uh.
EVERYTHING SEA JUST SAID. I. JUST. GEEZ.
This is what I love about forum people. That some take so much time sharing their thoughts in a convincing and enthusiastic way. Just makes me so happy. I can't even begin to validate or refute any of your points, Sea, but just knowing you took the time to formulate this theory does it for me. Of course I would NEVER want to see Kat die, but if this soul-to-robot thing actually happens... too awesome for words, man.
And the kicker for me for this theory is that I could so see it happening: Kat creating this suit for herself and Annie enabling her best friend's soul to live on. And think of all the happy robots!! The happiest face. :')
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Post by La Goon on Nov 2, 2012 10:22:02 GMT
The Big Bang was caused by Jones trying to set the alarm on her clock-radio, accidentally ripping a hole in the space-time continuum.
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Post by warrl on Nov 3, 2012 4:36:45 GMT
The Big Bang was caused by Jones trying to set the alarm on her clock-radio, accidentally ripping a hole in the space-time continuum. No, the Big Bang was Jones losing her temper. |
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Post by Corvo on Dec 8, 2012 10:15:32 GMT
First of all, mai engrish suks, so forgive me for any uncomprehensible phrase and terrible grammar.
Anyway, ever since I read "Divine", I can't shake this theory off my head. Then I prepared this big explanation to reinforce every aspect of my theory, just to find out you guys have already came up with very similar ideas. So, yeah, screw explanations, here's the deal:
Kat is becoming a goddess because of the beliefs of the etheric-robots she will create. Also, she'll create the Tic-Tocs, which are also the Seed Bismuth, and send then back in time to create the Court and save Annie. Or anything like that.
Also, Red, Basil and Mort will start a rock band and leave the Court. Questions?
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Post by Mezzaphor on Dec 9, 2012 7:15:41 GMT
Also, Red, Basil and Mort will start a rock band and leave the Court. Questions? I just hope electric guitars and monster trucks are involved. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 9, 2012 20:25:29 GMT
Also, Red, Basil and Mort will start a rock band and leave the Court. Questions? Two, actually. What are they thinking about naming it, and when is the first tour date? |
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Post by Søren on Dec 9, 2012 20:29:18 GMT
Also, Red, Basil and Mort will start a rock band and leave the Court. Questions? Two, actually. What are they thinking about naming it, and when is the first tour date? Red and the Weird Brothers! Courting Insanity! Pink Sledgehammer! Honestly it depends on the genre. Basil seems like a smooth jazz kind of guy, Red seems more the hair metal/glam rock type and Mort... funeral dirges? I dunno. |
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Post by Nnelg on Dec 9, 2012 21:41:21 GMT
This one, definitely. ;D But for some reason, I can't imagine Mort playing any instrument other than the Kazoo... (Unless it were the Electric Kazoo.) |
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Post by feraldog on Dec 9, 2012 23:48:35 GMT
I know that this is crazy-talk that I'm spewing out, and I know I'm just over-thinking the heck out of this. But I'm just throwing it out there, haha. I'm just thinking this way because of my exposure to the anime, Fullmetal
Also, of course I am aware that there are multiple meanings to “angel” and it could mean a sweet, kind, generous person, which Kat has been to the robots. So, I can see how my crazy theory can be toootally impossible if the robots truly are addressing her as “angel” meaning she is a kind person, and not meaning an angel with wings.
The robo-angel idea is just fine. It's the Biblical/Middle Eastern angels that creep me out (wheels spinning inside and through other wheels, the rims of each wheel covered in eyes, and the whole thing is on fire; something with four faces, four wings, and cow legs; something with wings that it uses to cover itself so it doesn't incinerate you...) |
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Post by todd on Dec 10, 2012 0:07:16 GMT
The robo-angel idea is just fine. It's the Biblical/Middle Eastern angels that creep me out (wheels spinning inside and through other wheels, the rims of each wheel covered in eyes, and the whole thing is on fire; something with four faces, four wings, and cow legs; something with wings that it uses to cover itself so it doesn't incinerate you...) Robert Louis Stevenson said about them that if these are what the angels of Heaven are like, what must be lurking in Hell? |
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Post by Nnelg on Dec 10, 2012 2:50:54 GMT
The robo-angel idea is just fine. It's the Biblical/Middle Eastern angels that creep me out (wheels spinning inside and through other wheels, the rims of each wheel covered in eyes, and the whole thing is on fire; something with four faces, four wings, and cow legs; something with wings that it uses to cover itself so it doesn't incinerate you...) I don't know about Middle-Eastern angels in general, but I've never heard any Biblical accounts containing such descriptions. (Sure, Biblical angels are supposed to be terrifying, but it's implied that's more like the kind of fear that an escaped convict might feel when confronted by a cop, rather than due to any lovecraftian appearance.) |
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Post by feraldog on Dec 10, 2012 5:23:07 GMT
The robo-angel idea is just fine. It's the Biblical/Middle Eastern angels that creep me out (wheels spinning inside and through other wheels, the rims of each wheel covered in eyes, and the whole thing is on fire; something with four faces, four wings, and cow legs; something with wings that it uses to cover itself so it doesn't incinerate you...) I don't know about Middle-Eastern angels in general, but I've never heard any Biblical accounts containing such descriptions. (Sure, Biblical angels are supposed to be terrifying, but it's implied that's more like the kind of fear that an escaped convict might feel when confronted by a cop, rather than due to any lovecraftian appearance.) The first chapter of the book of Ezekiel has the descriptions (I simplified...). The burning wheels with eyes are believed by UFOlogists to be aliens. The book of Isaiah and Revelations also have these descriptions. The image of Cthulu and Nyarlathotep in cop uniforms gave me a giggle though. |
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Post by elco on Dec 10, 2012 6:13:44 GMT
The Big Bang was caused by Jones trying to set the alarm on her clock-radio, accidentally ripping a hole in the space-time continuum. Perhaps. And when the world ends, the last sound will be Jones belly-laughing loudly. |
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Post by Geekette on Dec 10, 2012 6:16:55 GMT
Drat, you got to answer the references first Feral  Taking the robot-angel and death in a different direction - what if what Zimmy saw when she was looking at Kat a psychopomp? Specifically, a guide for the robots, or maybe even a new one. The insects have Ketrak, the insect guide, so they're not specific to humans only, and Kat's reaction to him told us some are pretty terrifying to look at. After all, as Robot said, all the robots all saw how easily she gave life - and how easily she took it away. Muut said that they don't deal in electrical appliances, but we don't know what that is - because psychopomps need to be created specifically for those people,because they have no etheric connection, or some other reason? I don't see why those circumstances can't change and bring in a need for a psychopomps of robots. |
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Post by lordofpotatoes on Dec 10, 2012 7:27:41 GMT
Drat, you got to answer the references first Feral Taking the robot-angel and death in a different direction - what if what Zimmy saw when she was looking at Kat a psychopomp? Specifically, a guide for the robots, or maybe even a new one. The insects have Ketrak, the insect guide, so they're not specific to humans only, and Kat's reaction to him told us some are pretty terrifying to look at. After all, as Robot said, all the robots all saw how easily she gave life - and how easily she took it away. Muut said that they don't deal in electrical appliances, but we don't know what that is - because psychopomps need to be created specifically for those people,because they have no etheric connection, or some other reason? I don't see why those circumstances can't change and bring in a need for a psychopomps of robots. Maybe everything changed the day Robot was given a choice? Also I have a theory on why they thought Jeanne couldn't cross the water, but did anyways. It's because the bird landed on the other side and she had to go and physically hate it with her sword a bit. I assume the tic-tocs are made by Diego's robots because she dided and they did nothing. Muut thought she couldn't go to the other side because she has hatred for the court, but when the bird was buried on the other side, her territory expanded. |
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Post by chaoticrogue on Dec 22, 2012 5:49:59 GMT
That's an interesting idea about the Tic-Toc somehow allowing Jeanne to cross the waters, but then why didn't she attack Ysengrin when he went down by the river to investigate the Tic-Toc? For that matter, why didn't Jeanne attack Kat when she showed up to rescue Annie? As for the robots creating the Tic-Tocs, they have their own beliefs that would seem to contradict your assumption. www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=648 |
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Post by lordofpotatoes on Dec 22, 2012 12:02:43 GMT
I was gonna say that the Tic Toc's maybe were made by the robots, but its a lost part of their history. But I don't believe that, instead, Jeanne hates it because it reminds her of the court/she think's the court made it.
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Post by Corvo on Dec 22, 2012 16:36:07 GMT
Telling ya, guys. Kat's the one who built the Tic-Tocs. Gonna build. Whatever. The time travel is messing my verbs.
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Post by kittygirlhazel on Dec 27, 2012 21:19:15 GMT
Soulmates exist in the Gunnerkrigg universe. They can be romantic, sexual, familial, platonic, or any mix of the four. They're rare, but they happen, and the Court is trying to research them. When your bond forms, you don't necessarily realise what it is straight away. You just feel a need to hang out with your soulmate and get to know them. Quite a few people don't even know they exist - those who do, and who also have a bond, may not work out right away what KIND it is. Bonds can change over time.
Annie and Kat are bonded, though they don't know that soulbonds are real. Their bond is currently platonic, but it could change. Smits and Parley are bonded, and their bond is very clearly romantic. Shadow2 and Robot might be bonded, but no one knows if soulbonds are possible between non-humans - then again, if elemental/human Annie can form a bond...
I dunno. Soulbonds just seem like they'd fit into the Gunnerkrigg universe.
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Post by Georgie L on Jan 13, 2013 9:41:49 GMT
there's been no evidence either for or against that in the setting, but with the rest of the setting being rather post-modern fantasy it wouldn't exactly fit in.
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Post by http404error on Jan 13, 2013 22:42:48 GMT
Telling ya, guys. Kat's the one who built the Tic-Tocs. Gonna build. Whatever. The time travel is messing my verbs. I think you're a genius. This is the best theory on the Tic-Tocs I've heard yet. |
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Post by kingcritter on Jan 14, 2013 3:36:45 GMT
You know how the robots consider and address Kat as an “angel?” What if that “thing in the armor suit,” who Kat resembled in Zimmy's eyes, is actually how the robots see Kat? Maybe not now, but maybe she will appear that way later. Does it not look like something/someone that the robots would consider as an angel? Ever since Divine, that's exactly what I've thought. I didn't know I was in the minority. As to the rest of it, it makes sense to me, but time will tell. ^_^ |
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Post by legion on Jan 14, 2013 9:30:15 GMT
Telling ya, guys. Kat's the one who built the Tic-Tocs. Gonna build. Whatever. The time travel is messing my verbs. I think you're a genius. This is the best theory on the Tic-Tocs I've heard yet. I thought this one had been floating around for a while now. |
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Post by feraldog on Feb 2, 2013 11:21:47 GMT
Hey I just thought of something, and I don't think it's been mentioned: Coyote carved out the Annan river, right? And now there's a bridge over it, right?
Well, from his character design, and the legends referred to in the story, Coyote seems to be the Pacific Northwest version. There's a few legends involving Coyote and the Columbia River. One of which involves a bridge over it that collapses and becomes the Cascade Mountains.
Anyone else here think the Bridge is doomed?
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Post by GK Sierra on Feb 2, 2013 18:50:30 GMT
Hey I just thought of something, and I don't think it's been mentioned: Coyote carved out the Annan river, right? And now there's a bridge over it, right? Well, from his character design, and the legends referred to in the story, Coyote seems to be the Pacific Northwest version. There's a few legends involving Coyote and the Columbia River. One of which involves a bridge over it that collapses and becomes the Cascade Mountains. Anyone else here think the Bridge is doomed? Could be. The map definitely shows Coyote hopping over from the great southwest during his "place of great union" speech. I don't know if the Annan Waters is a reference to the Columbia River, though, since it's got it's own history of sorts (its a Kate Rusby song about two lovers). |
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Post by feraldog on Feb 3, 2013 7:36:11 GMT
Could be. The map definitely shows Coyote hopping over from the great southwest during his "place of great union" speech. I don't know if the Annan Waters is a reference to the Columbia River, though, since it's got it's own history of sorts (its a Kate Rusby song about two lovers). Ah, I was going based on the idea that several tribes around the Columbia river believe Coyote is responsible for its existence. |
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 4, 2013 2:02:52 GMT
I don't know if the Annan Waters is a reference to the Columbia River, though, since it's got it's own history of sorts (its a Kate Rusby song about two lovers). Well, there's no reason it couldn't be a reference to both, right? |
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Post by warrl on Feb 4, 2013 4:03:27 GMT
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Post by GK Sierra on Feb 4, 2013 4:26:46 GMT
I don't know if the Annan Waters is a reference to the Columbia River, though, since it's got it's own history of sorts (its a Kate Rusby song about two lovers). Well, there's no reason it couldn't be a reference to both, right? Certainly. Like I said, it could very well be. |
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Post by ravenswd on Feb 6, 2013 21:32:11 GMT
I posted this somewhere else, but this seems to be a better place for it. My theory is: The headmaster is a zombie. Just look at him: Grey skin, no energy... I don't even think he has the strength to stand up. |
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