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Post by legion on Jun 30, 2012 5:33:11 GMT
You're still just asserting. "It's this way because it is". Don't get surprised then when you get compared to a millenarist cult.
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Post by GK Sierra on Jun 30, 2012 7:12:40 GMT
You're still just asserting. "It's this way because it is". Don't get surprised then when you get compared to a millenarist cult. I don't think Y2K is a good comparison to the Singularity. I'm not saying you're wrong or anything like that, you made solid points. It probably won't be all positive. Or even mostly positive. It might not happen at all. I could be wrong. Or I could be right. Or something else could defy utterly and completely both our imaginations and make our previous guesses look childish. Perhaps that's the safest answer to choose. Sometimes when I'm merging on the I-5 Freeway I think "Wow it would be cool to have Ben Franklin sitting shotgun so I could watch him flip his lid when we drive under the interchanges". Three hundred years is a long time. Three hundred years in the future is even longer. I mean, heck, who knows, maybe we're all brains in jars. Or maybe it's just me, and I'm hallucinating all of you. I should start a cult that has that as its creation theology, like David Koresh but for nerds. Flee to the backwoods compound with a truckload of weapons. Make loadsamoney! (Actually that's a horrid idea, it would get so annoying cooped up in there with the ATF outside. They'd probably all just get tired and go home, leave me to face the cops alone.) |
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 30, 2012 11:44:03 GMT
IMHO Transhumanism is not a metaphor or a myth in GC or real life. It is coming, for those of us who are prepared to meet its eventualities. In the end, mankind will become the gods he has been dreaming of for so long. Aye, aye - just like it happened with transapeism before. Transhumanists would have more credibility if they didn't sound like crazy evangelicals anouncing the rapture very-soon-now-promess. Transhumanists would have more credibility if they didn't tend to sound like either a) someone who discovered a soda vending machine while thirsty and suffered an acute fit of idolatry, envisioning the world where houses are built of soda dispensers (thankfully, this usually ends when electrolyte balance restores), or b) someone who got a fetish of extreme piercing and burning desire to express it in "smart" words.  That's okay, I don't need to sound sane as long as I have Moore's Law and its corollaries riding shotgun. Do those corollaries include Mark Twain's calculation on the length of Lower Mississippi? ;D Because generally such things tend to boil down to the anecdote about the guy who fell from Eiffel Tower - "so far, everything goes well". Could something be done about the page being forced wide, please? (trying to not answer that)  Because as I said, the all-important fuel source which pushed us through the Industrial Revolution is all but gone. Sure, with our current technology we still have plenty to go around, but if we had to start over with Victorian tech, we could barely keep the world running a few years before we run out of juice. Aye, and practically? Once the momentary (even on historical scale, let alone geological) anomaly of "burning paper money" (in words of Mendeleev) ends, everyone who wants to get materials for synthesis will have to learn mechanochemistry and everyone who still wants industrial chemical fuel learns the words "methane hydrate layer". Of course, lots of associated artificial resource sinks are bound to get smothered too. When the broken vending machine runs dry, this doesn't mean we are going to receive a sudden rain of free soda from Outer Space. This just means everyone involved will have to stop taking the free shower, stop fighting around the tap, pick their butts up and walk home to learn how to make their own lemonade, in a slower way. The end.  |
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Post by Per on Jun 30, 2012 13:15:36 GMT
I told you man
I told you about spending all the easily available fossil fuels
Guys this is pretty off topic.
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Post by GK Sierra on Jun 30, 2012 16:50:17 GMT
Guys this is pretty off topic. I know, it's glorious! I wonder if the court has mastered muon-catalyzed fusion or if it's all etheric? They sure seem to be pumping power to a lot of buildings they're not using. Someone should have given the seed bismuth a better floor plan. |
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Post by blahzor on Jul 2, 2012 13:57:36 GMT
IMHO Transhumanism is not a metaphor or a myth in GC or real life. It is coming, for those of us who are prepared to meet its eventualities. In the end, mankind will become the gods he has been dreaming of for so long. 1st and 2nd panel gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=499 |
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Post by blahzor on Jul 18, 2012 16:50:52 GMT
this thread is not as active as it use to be so i shall throw out the greatest of sepeculation
Coyote is just a spider that escaped Zimmy's mind then got bit by a radioactive coyote
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Post by GK Sierra on Jul 19, 2012 7:55:34 GMT
Robot and Shadow will lead a cult-like uprising of machines with Kat as their deity and avenging angel. They will fight against the status quo between the two sides of the Annan Waters, mostly against the Court's administration. Maybe not such a wild prediction, but you can never tell with Tom's foreshadowing. Sometimes its a misdirection. |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Aug 9, 2012 0:09:41 GMT
I'm not used to posting on this thread, so forgive me if this is not the right place. I didn't want to post on the daily thread page since this is a more random question, so I thought I'd come here. Regarding the general theory put forth on this page, I'm wondering what you all think about the deal Coyote has going with Forest creatures who turn human, and vice versa. How are they "processed" when they die? |
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Post by Per on Aug 9, 2012 1:01:47 GMT
I didn't want to post on the daily thread page since this is a more random question, so I thought I'd come here. Maybe it's just me, but it feels like posting patterns have changed a bit from what they used to be. We used to have this for speculation, now people are making assumptions in the page threads about what each new thing on each page means, then making assumptions about the implications of those assumptions; and then someone or other takes those assumptions as given and launches into further assumptions until there are fourth- and fifth-tier assumptions running around everywhere looking for their quest beds. |
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Post by warrl on Aug 9, 2012 4:50:10 GMT
Maybe it's just me, but it feels like posting patterns have changed a bit from what they used to be. We used to have this for speculation, No, this thread was always for *wild* speculation. Not serious attempts to figure out what is going on, but really off-the-wall stuff such as that Jones is actually Coyote's and Ysengrim's love child in an extended bout of teenage rebellion - and that's why she lives in the Court but never thinks of herself as part of it, and can get away with stuff in the forest. |
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Post by galileo on Aug 9, 2012 4:51:45 GMT
...this thread was always for *wild* speculation. Not serious attempts to figure out what is going on, but really off-the-wall stuff such as that Jones is actually Coyote's and Ysengrim's love child in an extended bout of teenage rebellion - and that's why she lives in the Court but never thinks of herself as part of it, and can get away with stuff in the forest. I BELIEVE YOU. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 9, 2012 10:41:21 GMT
No, this thread was always for *wild* speculation. Not serious attempts to figure out what is going on, but really off-the-wall stuff such as that Jones is actually Coyote's and Ysengrim's love child in an extended bout of teenage rebellion - and that's why she lives in the Court but never thinks of herself as part of it, and can get away with stuff in the forest. True, though I sometimes park more serious theories here to avoid necro-ing or creating new threads, like my guess that the Court was founded in 1715. Just for fun here's a new one: Mort's scaring people is important because in keeping the humans nervous, guessing, and thinking about the unknown it keeps the channels in the ether open. To continue with my water metaphor from the other day, it's like how waves wash sediment away from a river delta and keep the river navigable. Here's another: the new revelations about the ether from Coyote suggest a continuum between reality and the etherium with the Wood and Court in-between, which explains a bit about stuff grows when planted in the soil. And it also makes Smitface's powers seem a lot more significant. |
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Post by Per on Aug 9, 2012 11:39:53 GMT
No, this thread was always for *wild* speculation. Not serious attempts to figure out what is going on, but really off-the-wall stuff To clarify, I consider multi-layered assumptions and theories grasped pretty much out of thin air to be wild and off the wall. I suppose serious attempts and wild speculation can sometimes look the same to an outside observer. Here's some speculation: Jones is completely shut off from the ether. As a punishment. For, uh, stealing too many stars. Hence her apparent lack of emotion and super-reality. |
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Post by Georgie L on Aug 10, 2012 13:43:14 GMT
Jones is from space.
She is the invisible pink space unicorn gave human form.
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Post by Per on Aug 10, 2012 13:46:38 GMT
She's a neutron star, it's the only explanation as to how she's dense enough to push her fingers through a wall. The only one. Anthony is greatly bothered by the synchrotron radiation she gives off in the direction of his satellites.
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Post by Lightice on Aug 10, 2012 13:58:39 GMT
She's a neutron star, it's the only explanation as to how she's dense enough to push her fingers through a wall. The only one. Anthony is greatly bothered by the synchrotron radiation she gives off in the direction of his satellites. Shouldn't she constantly spin around her own axis, then?  |
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Post by Per on Aug 10, 2012 14:15:56 GMT
The radiation comes from her constantly rolling her eyes at all the shenanigans.
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Post by galileo on Aug 10, 2012 16:49:34 GMT
Jones is Anthony's twin sister  Or maybe...HIS ETHERIC PERSONA, MANIFESTED IN THE REAL WORLD. He's just so scientific, he couldn't play by the etheric rules! |
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Post by rafk on Aug 29, 2012 7:51:21 GMT
Following on from my speculation that Coyote has set up the Annie-Ysengrin confrontation in order to catch Eglamore "trespassing" uninvited into the forest (and attacking Ysengrin into the bargain), my wild speculation is that Coyote is doing this to set up a prisoner exchange. Eglamore for Reynardine.
My even wilder speculation is that Coyote intends for Eglamore to kill or believe he has killed Ysengrin, which would make an Eglamore-for-Reynardine swap even more like-for-like and would create a swirl of conflicting emotions for Annie...
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Post by GK Sierra on Aug 29, 2012 16:50:02 GMT
Jones is Anthony's twin sister Or maybe...HIS ETHERIC PERSONA, MANIFESTED IN THE REAL WORLD. He's just so scientific, he couldn't play by the etheric rules! Come to think of it, I see Tony and Jones getting along swimmingly... |
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Post by Lightice on Aug 29, 2012 21:12:19 GMT
My even wilder speculation is that Coyote intends for Eglamore to kill or believe he has killed Ysengrin, which would make an Eglamore-for-Reynardine swap even more like-for-like and would create a swirl of conflicting emotions for Annie... But Coyote has outright stated that he doesn't want to force Reynardine to come back, and as we know, he doesn't lie. Although he might want Eglamore to come to harm, though we haven't actually seen a reason for it, it's unlikely that he'd put Annie in a situation where she'd never want to return to the Forest again, and that's pretty much what would result from that eventuality. |
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Post by Per on Aug 29, 2012 23:52:43 GMT
But Coyote has outright stated that he doesn't want to force Reynardine to come back, and as we know, he doesn't lie. we know this? Are people basing this on more than Jones's offhand comment, which could easily be interpreted merely to say Coyote is not a frequent liar? |
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Post by rafk on Aug 30, 2012 8:52:40 GMT
My even wilder speculation is that Coyote intends for Eglamore to kill or believe he has killed Ysengrin, which would make an Eglamore-for-Reynardine swap even more like-for-like and would create a swirl of conflicting emotions for Annie... But Coyote has outright stated that he doesn't want to force Reynardine to come back, and as we know, he doesn't lie. Saying he doesn't want to force Reynardine to come back is not the same thing as he doesn't want Reynardine to come back, and if the Court offers to trade him Reynardine for Eglamore, well, so be it! Renard could say no, but would Renard refuse to go at the price of leaving Eggers stuck in the forest? I doubt it. If Renard is in the forest, Annie would keep coming back. Besides, I bet (and Coyote would bet) that Annie will blame herself for summoning Eggers, especially as Coyote will no doubt remind the fire-haired girl that she was under his protection! Perfectly safe! No need for this! He thought she trusted him! Oh, how the fire-haired girl's lack of trust killed poor Ysengrim! |
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Post by Lightice on Aug 30, 2012 11:34:15 GMT
Do we know this? Are people basing this on more than Jones's offhand comment, which could easily be interpreted merely to say Coyote is not a frequent liar? It's a very suitable quality for a trickster god to always be truthful, but take those truths to completely unpredictable conclusions. If Coyote wants Rey back in the Forest, it's most likely by seducing Annie to join them, or alternatively, making the Court the more dangerous place for her in some way. After all, he invoked Annie as the reason why he wouldn't try to steal Rey back. That would, by definition, be forcing Rey's decision. It would not be of his own free will, if he came only to save Eglamore's life. And I still don't see Coyote wanting to do that. Having Rey in the Court opens all sorts of amusing possibilities. |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Aug 30, 2012 16:32:38 GMT
So, two different thoughts/questions:
1.) Do we know or have any theories why Coyote's gifts are always flawed? Like Ys' tree control having tremors, or Rey's body borrowing killing the person?
2.) What if Rey came along with Eglamore, and took over Ys to protect her? (Very wild speculation) I know Annie would have to give him permission to do so, but that would be crazy-nuts...
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Post by Jay on Aug 30, 2012 17:31:11 GMT
For why Coyote's gifts are flawed, I just had the idea that he's kind of flippant about it. He seemed to give it because they asked and he has the power, but he doesn't seem to do it in a serious way. Sort of like he's giving presents to his closest friends. I'm not sure he cares about the repercussions (I mean he's a god), so maybe he just doesn't bother to find out or to fine tune them.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Aug 31, 2012 1:53:32 GMT
For why Coyote's gifts are flawed, I just had the idea that he's kind of flippant about it. He seemed to give it because they asked and he has the power, but he doesn't seem to do it in a serious way. Sort of like he's giving presents to his closest friends. I'm not sure he cares about the repercussions (I mean he's a god), so maybe he just doesn't bother to find out or to fine tune them. This. Recall that Coyote offered to help the Great Sprit put the stars in the sky, then started half-assing the job the instant he got bored. It's very much in character for him to screw up a superpower because he couldn't be bothered to gift it properly. |
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Post by Georgie L on Aug 31, 2012 18:01:33 GMT
Theory: Coyote promised that he wouldn't allow annie to come to any harm, but Coyote also told annie that he doesn't exist.
If there is no "I" to promise it then does the promise no longer hold true?
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Post by Bob, Squirrel King on Sept 5, 2012 1:24:47 GMT
Considering it's Coyote, I figured the transferred powers have flaws because he finds it funny.
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Or maybe...HIS ETHERIC PERSONA, MANIFESTED IN THE REAL WORLD. He's just so scientific, he couldn't play by the etheric rules!
